I see what you did thereYeah, they're devostated
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I see what you did thereYeah, they're devostated
I guess if volume of picks is not needed then maybe we are using them to trade back for a later 1st rounder to give to you?? Thoughts?Sadly, we just don't need that many picks in this year's draft, so accepting that would be unfeasible. The points calculator is therefore pointless to assess that deal, considering our tight list spots. Where it is more useful is to calculate what you paid for Smith. No matter where the Giants finish in 2017, it looks like GWS almost gave Smith away as steak knives.
I personally would have done that trade with our pick 9 and laughed all the way to the bank. Well played.
They should be taking their anger out on their own club not opposition clubs offering what is reasonable now in the circumstances.Bulldogs supporters are probably the main reason I want Stringer at the moment. They're so in denial I actually feel kind of sorry for them - not enough to not enjoy their melts though. Just imagine how good it will get if they only get a second rounder or 2 for him!
Bulldogs supporters are probably the main reason I want Stringer at the moment. They're so in denial I actually feel kind of sorry for them - not enough to not enjoy their melts though. Just imagine how good it will get if they only get a second rounder or 2 for him!
I know. Delusional. I can't believe they think a club would do that, and that it would be the way to handle the situation.I'm enjoying that some still think it's a motivational excercise for a big 2018 for Jake.
I think the dog fans are still salty at the fact that they traded Zach Merrett for Stewart Crameri
I'm enjoying that some still think it's a motivational excercise for a big 2018 for Jake.
I'm certainly one who is in the camp that you don't trade away premium assets for multiple smaller, less valuable assets. I thought 11 was fair value for Stringer (and a great deal for Essendon), but let's assume for a moment he's worth pick 17 or equivalent. Adding say a third rounder to Stringer or a 2nd / 2rd swap and emerging with pick 11 (say Stringer + 39 for pick 11, or Stringer + 26 for 11 and a pick in the 40s) would have been much better than an equivalent pick of 17-19 by itself. I'd be pretty disappointed if we end up with pick 17ish unless that pick nets us Schache and I'd hope we seriously consider keeping him at that price. Or more likely, we go for future picks which are more valuable for us (given list spots + Smith as a father/son).I guess if volume of picks is not needed then maybe we are using them to trade back for a later 1st rounder to give to you?? Thoughts?
We've done pretty well with our 2nd and 3rd round picks lately so I don't think that even rates a thought among Doggie fans - however its a great example of how seemingly winning the trade on the day can quickly turn to smoke and ash. Nothing beats trading in best 22 players, but beyond that I don't think there would be much correlation between trading success and actual success.I think the dog fans are still salty at the fact that they traded Zach Merrett for Stewart Crameri
Stringer was an awesome player in 2015 and intermittently in 2016. He lost his way on 2017 and starting becoming injury prone.I'm certainly one who is in the camp that you don't trade away premium assets for multiple smaller, less valuable assets. I thought 11 was fair value for Stringer (and a great deal for Essendon), but let's assume for a moment he's worth pick 17 or equivalent. Adding say a third rounder to Stringer or a 2nd / 2rd swap and emerging with pick 11 (say Stringer + 39 for pick 11, or Stringer + 26 for 11 and a pick in the 40s) would have been much better than an equivalent pick of 17-19 by itself. I'd be pretty disappointed if we end up with pick 17ish unless that pick nets us Schache and I'd hope we seriously consider keeping him at that price. Or more likely, we go for future picks which are more valuable for us (given list spots + Smith as a father/son).
Pick 17ish + Essendon's future second (maybe with ??? going back to Essendon?) was proposed on the Bulldogs board and it's not an awful trade for either party TBH and might be a way of Essendon turning many second rounders into Stringer.
Devon Smith being interviewed on trade radio:
Was listening but didn't actually hear this part.
Connors will be directing what he does and doesn't say.Would help if Stringer said "I want to go to Essendon" will put more pressure on the Dogs to let him go.
It was a good interview actually, was quite honest in his answers.Was surprised Damo didn't ask him about why would it be strange.
It was a good interview, he sounds like he has brought into the club
The best comparison I can think of at the moment is Schache, who has significant personal issues. Maybe he's gettable for a late first rounder, who knows? If the club think his issues are fixable and they rate his ability to deliver on his potential, I wouldn't mind seemingly overpaying. I'd probably want something back from pick 9 but wouldn't be too worried. When a player of significant quality (or in Schache's case, potential) is on the table, you go and get him. I also don't think Melbourne overpaid for Lever - when a guy of his quality is available you do what you gotta do to get him on the list. We did what we had to do to get Tom Boyd on the list, and no way we win a prelim and a granny without him.Stringer was an awesome player in 2015 and intermittently in 2016. He lost his way on 2017 and starting becoming injury prone.
He has some serious personal issues which it is hard to imagine him getting over straight away. Typically this takes 12-18 months. Dogs said it is best to part ways because I assume he must be a bad influence on other players and/or you believe he is in the too hard basket to turn around.
He may never get back to his 2015-2016 heroics.
What value would you place on a player like this if the Dogs were paying using their hard earned?
2017 will have been good to usBulldogs supporters are probably the main reason I want Stringer at the moment. They're so in denial I actually feel kind of sorry for them - not enough to not enjoy their melts though. Just imagine how good it will get if they only get a second rounder or 2 for him!