Rumour Dees pull out of tough training camp

[demondavey]

Sorry chef I looked at the bookings next week and it looks like there's a lot of functions on and a lot more work to do, so I don't really want to be here for that.

Yeah no worries mate, see you back the week after. Enjoy your break, grab a knock off on me too when you leave tonight.

Bullshit correlation and just not relevant. 'Sorry Simon, I am a professional athlete and last year I dislocated my knee cap in a training camp that was non football related, it impacted my season and I don't want to do anything that will ruin my football in 2018'

Or.

'Sorry Simon, I don't think getting concussed due to a brick falling on my head is really relevant to playing football'

Not to relevant all of a sudden is it?

 

[Thats Wright]

This is what happens when advertisers market small sedans to young men.

 

[RUNVS]

It is about bettering humanity and treating people like individuals instead of as a collective. You point to WW1 but that is a perfect example of a few men being willing to throw millions of young men into a war, not learning any of the stories of the men that they had just condemned to die, simply because they did not really care that much.

In 1980's VFL training the players were not treated like individuals, they were treated as a collective, and that does not work anymore. Modern society is far more intuned with individual difference, and people are far less willing to be taken advantage of now compared to the past. In WW1 men died because they were told to, they did not even know what the war was about most of the time.

Now, in 2017, players are able to tell when the coaches are not treating them with respect, and are seemingly not caring about their individual welfare.

 

[demondavey]

This is what happens when advertisers market small sedans to young men.

That's what happens when advertisers market hotted up fast cars to young men and they drive 70km in 40km zones thinking they're relevant whereas they're just actually dumb kents who deserve to be wrapped around a pole.

Don't dick measure mate.

 

[Thats Wright]

That's what happens when advertisers market hotted up fast cars to young men and they drive 70km in 40km zones thinking they're relevant whereas they're just actually dumb kents who deserve to be wrapped around a pole.

Don't dick measure mate.

The breed of Hyundai male are a bit of a worry. Remind me of that servo clip in zoolander.

But jokes aside, this sounds like a leadership issue more than an overpaid, reality tv grown, superficial girly man problem.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

It was, and I don't see the point in it if professional athletes are injured training in a way non specific to football.

i think its a waste of time as well but still its just another sign that the players arent on board with the club and coaches etc which is a culture issue. as for the injury comment earlier players can get injured doing anything its a part of life and especially for an athlete

 

[demondavey]

The breed of Hyundai male are a bit of a worry. Remind me of that servo clip in zoolander.

But jokes aside, this sounds like a leadership issue more than an overpaid, reality tv grown, superficial girly man problem.

I just think a few guys have put there foot down and don't want to go through that same stuff as last year. It's fair enough.

 

[LouderNowBlue]

I heard what actually happened was a brick flew near Clayton Olivers head and he fell over in pain and the rest of the players got such a fright they called the whole thing off.

 

[demondavey]

i think its a waste of time as well but still its just another sign that the players arent on board with the club and coaches etc which is a culture issue. as for the injury comment earlier players can get injured doing anything its a part of life and especially for an athlete

I'd rather him injured in a football specific environment, that's a fair comment, and no, I think they've collectively thought it was rubbish and didn't think it relevant going forward. They're still doing a camp, just not something crazy.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Don't disagree.



Yes. Do you think mass sleep deprivation is a good idea for professional athletes?

its the off season so a few days with lack of sleep wont matter much. personally i think there is other ways to bond as a team then this my point is basically its not good for a club to have such a divided opinion from coaches to players if they want success and so on its a culture issue

 

[juss]

Whichever way you look at it, its not a great sign for club unity and a smooth pre season. There are obviously players unhappy about it, that has to create friction on certain levels.

 

[demondavey]

I heard what actually happened was a brick flew near Clayton Olivers head and he fell over in pain and the rest of the players got such a fright they called the whole thing off.

No I think he threatened to kill the brick that touched him

 

[demondavey]

Whichever way you look at it, its not a great sign for club unity and a smooth pre season. There are obviously players unhappy about it, that has to create friction on certain levels.

Doesn't have to create friction, you just have to work through it in a mature way

 

[Red Bull]

Can only imagine the coach has rubber stamped this camp .
The players have just publicly said "in ya boot" effectively defying his authority .
Where to from here ?
Does this fracture the relationship and can it be repaired going forward ?
Does the coach resign having lost the playing group ?
Bizarre indeed ...

 

[Thats Wright]

I just think a few guys have put there foot down and don't want to go through that same stuff as last year. It's fair enough.

I'd be asking lewis to cut back his media stench if the leaders are coming up with this in such an important year for the club. Gawn too.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

I'd rather him injured in a football specific environment, that's a fair comment, and no, I think they've collectively thought it was rubbish and didn't think it relevant going forward. They're still doing a camp, just not something crazy.

but thats more my point the players don't know what is and what isn't relevant if the club tell you to do something then they should do it and not pick and choose if it was so unsafe then it wouldnt be allowed to run. whats next a player feeling like running 10 laps is to much and only doing 5 etc

 

[schmuttt]

its the off season so a few days with lack of sleep wont matter much. personally i think there is other ways to bond as a team then this my point is basically its not good for a club to have such a divided opinion from coaches to players if they want success and so on its a culture issue

I don't disagree that there is a divided opinion which isn't a good look, but I'm completely behind the players here.

 

[RUNVS]

but thats more my point the players don't know what is and what isn't relevant if the club tell you to do something then they should do it and not pick and choose if it was so unsafe then it wouldnt be allowed to run. whats next a player feeling like running 10 laps is to much and only doing 5 etc

So I am guessing you are against labour laws saying that an employer can't exploit his or her employees or put them in unnecessarily stressful or dangerous situations?

 

[demondavey]

I'd be asking lewis to cut back his media stench if the leaders are coming up with this in such an important year for the club. Gawn too.

I don't disagree with this

 

[master bate]

I'd be asking lewis to cut back his media stench if the leaders are coming up with this in such an important year for the club. Gawn too.

This has Lewis' sooky face all over it.

If we sacked him tomorrow it would be an amazing result. That's what I'd do if I was Goodwin.

 

[TerryWallet]

Doesn't have to create friction, you just have to work through it in a mature way

Good luck with that. The players have just called the Union on the Coach and Footy Dept.

Mature discussion between the two factions either failed or wasn't an option.

 

[WoodyPecker]

Bullshit correlation and just not relevant. 'Sorry Simon, I am a professional athlete and last year I dislocated my knee cap in a training camp that was non football related, it impacted my season and I don't want to do anything that will ruin my football in 2018'

Or.

'Sorry Simon, I don't think getting concussed due to a brick falling on my head is really relevant to playing football'

Not to relevant all of a sudden is it?

What are you talking about?

 

[Bigtrev41]

Ash Agar dislocated his shoulder last year on a similar camp for the Warriors - his injury cost him an A tour and potentially an Australian Cap - training camps are ridiculous.

 

[Lord of the Pies]

Essendon players should have got the union in a few years ago...

 

[Red Bull]

Essendon players should have got the union in a few years ago...

Knights wasn't that bad ...