Opinion 2018 Non-Crows #4: You say Potato, I say Portato (Cont in Part 5)

[Sanders]

There is no garbage opinions mate. Unless it’s a fact.

Garbage

*there ARE no garbage opinions

Which is garbage. You are the original sewage plant of opinions. Allegedly

 

[Sanders]

So are you trying to defend for me or trying to attack?
Make up ya damn mind!

Oh I think my angle is pretty clear

 

[John Who]

No there are no avenues. Coppers and military the same, it’s pretty simple. We are trained if you feel your life or the lives of those it is your duty to protect is threatened, u neutralise the threat.
These situations must be kept simple, overanalysing makes u vulnerable.
As a previous poster mentioned...it’s not a movie.

I haven’t really been arguing with this point for the last couple of pages.

The issue would make more sense if hypothetically the guy was screaming out publicly that he might have bombs installed in a nearby location or he was part of a ring of terrorists in the heart of Melbourne.

Would you then prefer for him to be shot and remaining alive? (for further interrogation)

 

[John Who]

Oh I think my angle is pretty clear

And your angle is garbage.

 

[Sanders]

And your angle is garbage.

That hurts John

 

[El Doederino]

I haven’t really been arguing with this point for the last couple of pages.

The issue would make more sense if hypothetically the guy was screaming out publicly that he might have bombs installed in a nearby location or he was part of a ring of terrorists in the heart of Melbourne.

Would you then prefer for him to be shot and remaining alive? (for further interrogation)

Or if he was screaming about it on a bus that had to stay above a certain speed limit, or it would blow up, wearing a mask of a US ex president and was secretly the police officers gay half brother all along.

Yes. Then, shoot for the leg, get the girl and do it all again next Summer, only BIGGER

 

[John Who]

Or if he was screaming about it on a bus that had to stay above a certain speed limit, or it would blow up, wearing a mask of a US ex president and was secretly the police officers gay half brother all along.

Yes. Then, shoot for the leg, get the girl and do it all again next Summer, only BIGGER

You do realise the scenario I painted could have been a real possibility?
Real, as in reality, and not from the movie Speed?

 

[El Doederino]

You do realise the scenario I painted could have been a real possibility?
Real, as in reality, and not from the movie Speed?

The Speed thing could be real

 

[StonesThrow]

Has this website turned to trash over the last couple of weeks? Real jittery and freezes all the time.

 

[Doc_]

Has this website turned to trash over the last couple of weeks? Real jittery and freezes all the time.

All good here.

 

[jackster83]

Has this website turned to trash over the last couple of weeks? Real jittery and freezes all the time.

It's fine on a PC, but terrible on my phone. You go to tap on a link and the page suddenly jolts up or down and you end up tapping the wrong link.

 

[fabs33]

Or if he was screaming about it on a bus that had to stay above a certain speed limit, or it would blow up, wearing a mask of a US ex president and was secretly the police officers gay half brother all along.

Yes. Then, shoot for the leg, get the girl and do it all again next Summer, only BIGGER

I liked your story, all it was missing was some blindfolds.

 

[StonesThrow]

It's fine on a PC, but terrible on my phone. You go to tap on a link and the page suddenly jolts up or down and you end up tapping the wrong link.

That's been a problem for a while yeah. But lately it just freezes and goes blank. This is on my phone. Haven't tried a pc. I tried the app but I really disliked the layout.

 

[kirky]

Not doubt about his guilt or intentions ....
Keep him in jail for 50 years =$millions

Bullet - what ? Coupla bucks

No...
Good riddance and send the family packing too

Absoultely gobsmacked by this.

 

[kirky]

Or if he was screaming about it on a bus that had to stay above a certain speed limit, or it would blow up, wearing a mask of a US ex president and was secretly the police officers gay half brother all along.

Yes. Then, shoot for the leg, get the girl and do it all again next Summer, only BIGGER

Another gobsmacking dumb post.

 

[fabs33]

I haven’t really been arguing with this point for the last couple of pages.

The issue would make more sense if hypothetically the guy was screaming out publicly that he might have bombs installed in a nearby location or he was part of a ring of terrorists in the heart of Melbourne.

Would you then prefer for him to be shot and remaining alive? (for further interrogation)

When lives are at stake you don't stop to ponder the "what if's".

 

[kirky]

Has this website turned to trash over the last couple of weeks? Real jittery and freezes all the time.

No but some of the posters have.

 

[Truck25]

Has this website turned to trash over the last couple of weeks? Real jittery and freezes all the time.

I first thought you meant the posting and was about to like your comment, then I realised you meant the actual website.

 

[John Who]

The Speed thing could be real

Serious potential terrorist attacks need to be discussed seriously. But I guess this isn't really the forum for that kind of discussion.

When lives are at stake you don't stop to ponder the "what if's".

Sometimes you do need to weigh up the pros and cons. A lot of people on here seem to fail to distinguish between a psychotic murderer and a murdering terrorist.
Killing a psychotic murderer would bring peace to the community. Whereas killing a murderous terrorist might hinder the process of preventing the next one from happening.

This isn’t a debate to put the blame on the officer who shot the guy. It’s about future applications and which action could bring more benefits overall.

 

[GreyCrow]

I remember when we used to laugh at Port in this thread

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

If we could have just interrogated this random moron we could have unlocked all the secrets of any terrorist organisation in Australia

 

[Mego Red]

Yep most security agencies reckon it's only a minority who are radical, about 15%. Mind you 15% of approximately 1 billion is a rather large minority.

I'm not a fan of any religion but I think Islam, by it's very nature, is a radical religion.

Islam misinterpreted by extremists is radical and violent.

As is Christianity.

All religions have "an eye for an eye" and killing nonbelievers somewhere in there. But the actual vast majority of their text is some simple version of do unto others, which probably anyone could ever behind.

My feeling are that there have been a LOT more killings done by radical Christians than radical Muslims in the last few years, but then I'm really just focussing on Western countries. I imagine the numbers look different if you look beyond USA/UK/Australia/Canada etc.

 

[Mego Red]

Provided all citizens want to be participants in a healthy, free, democratic and peaceful society.

Agreed.

 

[John Who]

I remember when we used to laugh at Port in this thread

You can’t apply laughter when discussing a serious topic. Let’s put it this way, I’m not dumb enough to not get the points people are repeatedly making. Kirky and I are talking from another vantage point.

No more will be said from me about this. It’s become a moot point now.

 

[Mego Red]

If there was a Christian cult that was exhorting its followers to go out and kill random non-Christians by whatever means they can find, you'd have a point.

Accepting that reality isn't "Islamophobia" and it doesn't mean you have to think all / most Muslims are violent extremists.

You don't count Fox News as a white Christian cult?

The vast majority of mass shootings in recent US history involve killers who have been fed paranoid lies and misinformation. I'm not sure how the lies from those pulpits are different to the lies being spread by radical religious leaders.