Scape Goat I've lost my faith in Ken Hinkley Part 3
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Didn't we interview Hardwick for a coaches role? Can't remember if it was for head coach but I remember him being interviewed...could have been after Choco when we went for Primus over Scott as well.
Edit: I think it was for an assistant to Choco with maybe a succession plan but then Richmond came calling.
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We don't need a mentor for our head coach, we need a new head coach.
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He drops player to poor form and replaces them with players with poor form
i think we all know that but there doesn’t seem to be any movement on that front.
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We talked to Hardwick about a succession plan after we reappointed Choco by 30 June 2009. But Hardwick had applied for the Richmond job at that stage. The idea was Hardwick would do 2 years under Choco and then take over - just like Choco did from Jack.
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Hinkley won't change. The latest selection of Johnson and refusal to seriously consider Frampton has closed the book on new ideas.
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Ol' George may not be on the board any more, but he is still as committed as anyone remaining on it.
70sDinosaur
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Yep I remembered and edited my post...
Another sliding door right there Barrett..
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Laugh? Cry? Either response is valid.
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Billy has been stamped as a 'shitt bloke' by some within our club.
In Kenny's Stepford BoysTown, you either play by the rules our you don't play.
Standards are one thing, but we're here to win games.
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KT and Koch and Ken remind me of a previous place of employment.
It was a family run business, so they had their own way of running things (That's KT and Koch) - they were actually good people, but hired a General Manager for years who really couldn't do his job very well (That's Ken), intact after a while it became clear his job was a bit pointless, he had become such a part of the family who owned it he kinda was like family.
The problem with this guy is that he grated all of the staff (that's the supporters base) when it became clear he was a bit pointless at his job, he always heard you but never listened, he had his own way of protecting his job.
For years the family owners (That's KT and Koch) knew what everybody thought but just smiled and carried on, it was much easier to tell everybody they understand peoples concerns but then kept doing nothing about it.
Eventually they realised they kept losing good people due to this one person, and the bad culture it created.
Out of nowhere they eventually did the unthinkable and fired this General Manager.
Now what that did was create a new and vibrant culture - and they also put a more appropriate person in charge, one more suitable to that role (ironically a real positive go-getter, he's still in charge).
KT and Koch will eventually have to act (they will be hearing all the noise) - but I fear they have a lot more smiling and telling everyone else it's just dandy for a while yet.
The family owners still have their own issues that annoyed people but they owned the business so they could do as they please.
Eventually they will have to act on what they already know, otherwise they will lose face themselves, (and we might start losing quality coaches)
If we had a more positive coach, who rewarded form and brought excitement back instead of a jaded old stubborn 'Ken' - I think the issues surrounding KT and Koch will go away, after all, nobody can make everybody happy.
Eventually KT and Koch will want that 2012-14 feeling back, I can't imagine they are happy with Ken but haven't reached the tipping point with it yet, it will come though, ego's are at stake.
It was a family run business, so they had their own way of running things (That's KT and Koch) - they were actually good people, but hired a General Manager for years who really couldn't do his job very well (That's Ken), intact after a while it became clear his job was a bit pointless, he had become such a part of the family who owned it he kinda was like family.
The problem with this guy is that he grated all of the staff (that's the supporters base) when it became clear he was a bit pointless at his job, he always heard you but never listened, he had his own way of protecting his job.
For years the family owners (That's KT and Koch) knew what everybody thought but just smiled and carried on, it was much easier to tell everybody they understand peoples concerns but then kept doing nothing about it.
Eventually they realised they kept losing good people due to this one person, and the bad culture it created.
Out of nowhere they eventually did the unthinkable and fired this General Manager.
Now what that did was create a new and vibrant culture - and they also put a more appropriate person in charge, one more suitable to that role (ironically a real positive go-getter, he's still in charge).
KT and Koch will eventually have to act (they will be hearing all the noise) - but I fear they have a lot more smiling and telling everyone else it's just dandy for a while yet.
The family owners still have their own issues that annoyed people but they owned the business so they could do as they please.
Eventually they will have to act on what they already know, otherwise they will lose face themselves, (and we might start losing quality coaches)
If we had a more positive coach, who rewarded form and brought excitement back instead of a jaded old stubborn 'Ken' - I think the issues surrounding KT and Koch will go away, after all, nobody can make everybody happy.
Eventually KT and Koch will want that 2012-14 feeling back, I can't imagine they are happy with Ken but haven't reached the tipping point with it yet, it will come though, ego's are at stake.
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Ha! I know the people you're referring to and that's a great analogy.
Koch, KT and Davies went to Ken's house and made him the 3 year offer that weekend after we lost the EF. It was their decison, they have to own it.
Those 3 have backed the wrong horse, and they know it.
100% agree and is the absolute centre of our Club's malaise.
Those 3 have backed the wrong horse, and they know it.
100% agree and is the absolute centre of our Club's malaise.
I know Bomber but so true!
He moved on a got a job much better suited to his actual personality.
I think Bass deserves a little more credit, the same as what Schofield gets already. (they are both very smart coaches clearly)
Two Premierships in 4 years as coach of Norwood.
2010–2013. Norwood. 91 (68–23–0) 74.7%
If Bassett was delivering these kinds of results I don't think anybody would care how we played.
Ken is in charge people, he needs to go before we lose Bass or Schofield. Monty reminds me of Ken tbh.
How many mentors do they need to go through before they realise the guy is a dud.
Richo, Walsh, Voss (lol)...etc..
Keep Ken on the books if need be, get a new coach and wheel out a cardboard cut out to the coaches box of Ken sipping coke....No one would know the difference.
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Which part of 13% forward efficiency doesn’t Hinkley get FFS? It’s all well and good to have “forward pressure” but it’s f@&king pointless if it doesn’t generate goals.
Scoreboard pressure Ken, scoreboard pressure is what’s important. If AJ isn’t scoring himself or contributing to others doing so then his inclusion is futile. Get him out of the side and sign him up for fat camp while you’re at it.
Scoreboard pressure Ken, scoreboard pressure is what’s important. If AJ isn’t scoring himself or contributing to others doing so then his inclusion is futile. Get him out of the side and sign him up for fat camp while you’re at it.
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Until we get a full team on the park I will reserve my judgement on Ken, there's signs he has improved from 2018 but now we don't have the cattle to show it...
However, I don't believe we'll be so lucky with injuries.... so...
However, I don't believe we'll be so lucky with injuries.... so...
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They already tried this with Shaun Hart, remember. Fat lot of good that was. Clearly this was Richo's role too, except he got results.
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That kicking action... so good.
Get him the **** into our lineup Kern, you stubborn old goat.
