Argo Hinkley and Argo Koch - piss off from my club you frauds.

[tribey]

To be fair, pretty much every club in the league says the same stuff when they aren't performing. The difference is that after a while the media pressure begins and if you don't start winning you're gone. Unfortunately for us due to a combination of being a little battler club that nobody cares about and the famed Hinkley media protection racket, we get no such pressure and in fact have our own club legends and supporters getting defamed in the media for daring to expect anything more than repetitive and endless mediocrity.

Do they though? I don’t remember similar bridesmaids Neil Craig, Rodney Eade and Gary Ayres being shielded from their famous finals/seasonal shortfalls with impassioned claims from above that their team was too young.

 

[TeeKray]

Do they though? I don’t remember similar bridesmaids Neil Craig, Rodney Eade and Gary Ayres being shielded from their famous finals/seasonal shortfalls with impassioned claims from above that their team was too young.

The young team thing is a more modern phenomenon although there were a few early adopters in the 00s including Port.

There basically isn't a team in the league bar Geelong who don't claim to be young every year.

 

[philreich]

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And the kicker is,

The club responded by getting rid of Wingard, Polec & Pittard, and shamelessly pivoted to a narrative of “Ken has sacrificed his career for the good of the club”, “he’s getting on with navigating the perils of inconsistency that come with coaching such a young side”, and ultimately swept the Ben10-North disaster under the rug in service of this “WHAT DO YOU EXPECT, THEY’RE BLOODY KINDERGARTENERS!”/“ONE DAY WE WILL BE AWESOME!” mythology.

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Port Adelaide people can see straight through this garbage.

And they know this. So they paint us as delusional morons who can’t understand the modern draft/recruiting/salary cap process, while shoveling it down our throats.

And they’ve just sentenced us to two more years of it? Haha.

We're as much the real Port Adelaide as T20 is real cricket, or Hillary Clinton is Donald Trump's real lover.

 

[GremioPower]

I couldn’t care less about the other clubs.

We are wrong, period. If others do it, let them be. We shouldn’t.

 

[El_Scorcho]

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And the kicker is,

The club responded by getting rid of Wingard, Polec & Pittard, and shamelessly pivoted to a narrative of “Ken has sacrificed his career for the good of the club”, “he’s getting on with navigating the perils of inconsistency that come with coaching such a young side”, and ultimately swept the Ben10-North disaster under the rug in service of this “WHAT DO YOU EXPECT, THEY’RE BLOODY KINDERGARTENERS!”/“ONE DAY WE WILL BE AWESOME!” mythology.

View attachment 1816711

Port Adelaide people can see straight through this garbage.

And they know this. So they paint us as delusional morons who can’t understand the modern draft/recruiting/salary cap process, while shoveling it down our throats.

And they’ve just sentenced us to two more years of it? Haha.

This isn't even counting that he should have been sacked post both 2016 and 2017. 2016 might have been going a bit early, but 2017 certainly wasn't.

Nobody has lived off of a single game more than Ken Hinkley lives off of the 2014 semi final. To think that he's still employed 9 years later with just 2 more finals wins to his name. If he doesn't win that game he probably goes in 2016 with a year left on his deal.

Every other club would have sacked him after 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022 and 2023.

Lmao remember like 6 weeks ago when Janus was telling us that the 2023 list was so far ahead of every other list Hinkley has had? I note that Hinkley's best seasons were with on-paper lesser lists.

 

[GremioPower]

This isn't even counting that he should have been sacked post both 2016 and 2017. 2016 might have been going a bit early, but 2017 certainly wasn't.

Nobody has lived off of a single game more than Ken Hinkley lives off of the 2014 semi final. To think that he's still employed 9 years later with just 2 more finals wins to his name. If he doesn't win that game he probably goes in 2016 with a year left on his deal.

Every other club would have sacked him after 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022 and 2023.

Lmao remember like 6 weeks ago when Janus was telling us that the 2023 list was so far ahead of every other list Hinkley has had? I note that Hinkley's best seasons were with on-paper lesser lists.

I like Janus, but he says that every year. Then, later, he backpadels.

It’s like clockwork.

 

[Janus]

This isn't even counting that he should have been sacked post both 2016 and 2017. 2016 might have been going a bit early, but 2017 certainly wasn't.

Nobody has lived off of a single game more than Ken Hinkley lives off of the 2014 semi final. To think that he's still employed 9 years later with just 2 more finals wins to his name. If he doesn't win that game he probably goes in 2016 with a year left on his deal.

Every other club would have sacked him after 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022 and 2023.

Lmao remember like 6 weeks ago when Janus was telling us that the 2023 list was so far ahead of every other list Hinkley has had? I note that Hinkley's best seasons were with on-paper lesser lists.

As I've said elsewhere, the best list does not necessarily mean the most experienced, and experience (multiple pre-seasons building up the resilience needed to get through a full season + finals) is required to ultimately be successful. Then you've got the luck of who is injured and who isn't - soft tissue injuries can be fixed through conditioning, but the injuries that our players had were nothing to do with that.

You put a fit and firing Dixon, McKenzie, Lycett, Marshall and Finlayson up against Brisbane and GWS instead of a side that is hobbling to the finish line, and things would have been a lot different. Imagine if in 2013 or 2014 we were missing the equivalent of those players leading into finals.

 

[GremioPower]

As I've said elsewhere, the best list does not necessarily mean the most experienced, and experience (multiple pre-seasons building up the resilience needed to get through a full season + finals) is required to ultimately be successful. Then you've got the luck of who is injured and who isn't - soft tissue injuries can be fixed through conditioning, but the injuries that our players had were nothing to do with that.

You put a fit and firing Dixon, McKenzie, Lycett, Marshall and Finlayson up against Brisbane and GWS instead of a side that is hobbling to the finish line, and things would have been a lot different. Imagine if in 2013 or 2014 we were missing the equivalent of those players leading into finals.

Little did we knew the size of the bullet that we would have dodged…

 

[El_Scorcho]

As I've said elsewhere, the best list does not necessarily mean the most experienced, and experience (multiple pre-seasons building up the resilience needed to get through a full season + finals) is required to ultimately be successful. Then you've got the luck of who is injured and who isn't - soft tissue injuries can be fixed through conditioning, but the injuries that our players had were nothing to do with that.

You put a fit and firing Dixon, McKenzie, Lycett, Marshall and Finlayson up against Brisbane and GWS instead of a side that is hobbling to the finish line, and things would have been a lot different. Imagine if in 2013 or 2014 we were missing the equivalent of those players leading into finals.

Funny, our list was premiership ready a few short weeks ago where you were positively comparing it to the 2021, 2020 and 2014 lists. Our mental issues had "been addressed".

Nope.

Forget the banged up forward line. It didn't even get the opportunity to cost us a final. We lost both those finals in the midfield, where we had all of our players available, fit and firing, a couple of them with fresh All Australian jackets. We got absolutely dominated in the middle both games. The same midfield that had been on fire for most of the year apart from a few mental hiccups in big games, kind of like every midfield we've had for the last decade.

Lycett didn't have to be selected. He pretty obviously shouldn't have been selected. He played 2 of the worst finals you'll ever see while we had Hayes sitting in the emergencies. That's 100% on the coaches. Every single person watching knew that Lycett was a huge liability.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

As I've said elsewhere, the best list does not necessarily mean the most experienced, and experience (multiple pre-seasons building up the resilience needed to get through a full season + finals) is required to ultimately be successful. Then you've got the luck of who is injured and who isn't - soft tissue injuries can be fixed through conditioning, but the injuries that our players had were nothing to do with that.

You put a fit and firing Dixon, McKenzie, Lycett, Marshall and Finlayson up against Brisbane and GWS instead of a side that is hobbling to the finish line, and things would have been a lot different. Imagine if in 2013 or 2014 we were missing the equivalent of those players leading into finals.

Losers blame luck.

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[philreich]

Funny, our list was premiership ready a few short weeks ago where you were positively comparing it to the 2021, 2020 and 2014 lists. Our mental issues had "been addressed".

Nope.

Forget the banged up forward line. It didn't even get the opportunity to cost us a final. We lost both those finals in the midfield, where we had all of our players available, fit and firing, a couple of them with fresh All Australian jackets. We got absolutely dominated in the middle both games. The same midfield that had been on fire for most of the year apart from a few mental hiccups in big games, kind of like every midfield we've had for the last decade.

Lycett didn't have to be selected. He pretty obviously shouldn't have been selected. He played 2 of the worst finals you'll ever see while we had Hayes sitting in the emergencies. That's 100% on the coaches. Every single person watching knew that Lycett was a huge liability.

Given our faulty game plan, you could have plonked a peak Gary Ablett jnr and a peak Buddy Franklin in the forward line, and it wouldn't have made an ounce of difference. The problem is the muppet in the coaches box.

 

[Steve Dore]

And yet Koch has the gall to declare that Hinkley is the club's most successful AFL coach, which clearly betrays the fact that wins in the minor round are far more important to him than wins in September. David Koch's Port Adelaide is so far departed from the Port Adelaide that I grew up loving and supporting, that I feel hesitant to even call it Port Adelaide any more.

Totally agree. David Koch claiming that Hinkley, who has never made a Grand Final let alone won one, is our most successful coach in the AFL era shows that the Port Adelaide Football Club, a club that claimed to "exist to win premierships", no longer exists and has been usurped by the Kenny Hinkley Football Club.

 

[JimmyBC]

A fit & firing Dixon, McKenzie & Lycett lost me it's never got us anywhere previously.

The thought of rolling into another season with old peg leg Dixon as the key beacon sums up everything wrong with this rinse repeat nightmare.

 

[Tibbs]

Given our faulty game plan, you could have plonked a peak Gary Ablett jnr and a peak Buddy Franklin in the forward line, and it wouldn't have made an ounce of difference. The problem is the muppet in the coaches box.

Basset's gone ... Do you mean Josh Carr?

 

[philreich]

Totally agree. David Koch claiming that Hinkley, who has never made a Grand Final let alone won one, is our most successful coach in the AFL era shows that the Port Adelaide Football Club, a club that claimed to "exist to win premierships", no longer exists and has been usurped by the Kenny Hinkley Football Club.

The turn out at this year's B&F will be fascinating - maybe if half the tables are empty, the idiots in charge might finally realise we're not happy.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

The turn out at this year's B&F will be fascinating - maybe if half the tables are empty, the idiots in charge might finally realise we're not happy.

You think they will invite "members"?

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[Capital Power]

The turn out at this year's B&F will be fascinating - maybe if half the tables are empty, the idiots in charge might finally realise we're not happy.

Plenty of happy clappers to fill tables and go "oooh" and "ahhh" at appropriate times .

 

[PowerBaz]

Totally agree. David Koch claiming that Hinkley, who has never made a Grand Final let alone won one, is our most successful coach in the AFL era shows that the Port Adelaide Football Club, a club that claimed to "exist to win premierships", no longer exists and has been usurped by the Kenny Hinkley Football Club.

It’s rewriting the narrative because they have failed to deliver a premiership.

This history books will say Choco won a flag, Ken who?

 

[SC_Power]

The turn out at this year's B&F will be fascinating - maybe if half the tables are empty, the idiots in charge might finally realise we're not happy.

You think they will invite "members"?

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Plenty of happy clappers to fill tables and go "oooh" and "ahhh" at appropriate times .

 

[philreich]

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Problem is, if I were to go, I'd very likely throw up when Koch and Hinkley start speaking.

 

[SC_Power]

Problem is, if I were to go, I'd very likely throw up when Koch and Hinkley start speaking.

Watch out for the menu.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Totally agree. David Koch claiming that Hinkley, who has never made a Grand Final let alone won one, is our most successful coach in the AFL era shows that the Port Adelaide Football Club, a club that claimed to "exist to win premierships", no longer exists and has been usurped by the Kenny Hinkley Football Club.

Unfortunately, it shows the Kochmuncher's obvious sociopathic and delusional perspective on Ken and his failures. These ramblings of a petty tyrant will continue as he tries to change history and narratives such is the chutzpah of one who has done so little and failed so hard.

It is also unbelievably disrespectful to Mark Williams and the 2004 Premiership Team.

This is how insane David Koch is. He prefers to forget the 2004 premiership, think about that, really think about that, probably the greatest days for Port in recent memory, to justify his own failures and poor decision making with Kenny Average for the last 11 years.

That is the type of 'bloke' we have running our club.

 

[VineValerian]

Unfortunately, it shows the Kochmuncher's obvious sociopathic and delusional perspective on Ken and his failures. These ramblings of a petty tyrant will continue as he tries to change history and narratives such is the chutzpah of one who has done so little and failed so hard.

It is also unbelievably disrespectful to Mark Williams and the 2004 Premiership Team.

This is how insane David Koch is. He prefers to forget the 2004 premiership, think about that, really think about that, probably the greatest days for Port in recent memory, to justify his own failures and poor decision making with Kenny Average for the last 11 years.

That is the type of 'bloke' we have running our club.

Sad but true.

 

[TeeKray]

Unfortunately, it shows the Kochmuncher's obvious sociopathic and delusional perspective on Ken and his failures. These ramblings of a petty tyrant will continue as he tries to change history and narratives such is the chutzpah of one who has done so little and failed so hard.

It is also unbelievably disrespectful to Mark Williams and the 2004 Premiership Team.

This is how insane David Koch is. He prefers to forget the 2004 premiership, think about that, really think about that, probably the greatest days for Port in recent memory, to justify his own failures and poor decision making with Kenny Average for the last 11 years.

That is the type of 'bloke' we have running our club.

He also ignores the 2004 premiership in the broader sense that this was a team that proved we could compete and win on the AFL stage and weren't just a small fish in a big pond. His little battler club mentality is a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[GremioPower]

His little battler club mentality is a self fulfilling prophecy.

Quoted, because I couldn’t like it twice.