AFL Commission considers proposal to backdate footy records to 1870

[port_adelaide_1870]

The clubs should be allowed to acknowledge those premierships, but they shouldn't be included in the AFL tally as it was a completely different competition.

Bingo, clubs have every right to acknowledge their premierships, VFL, VFA, SANFL etc but in the AFL should be kept separate, 1990- present should be the ones that the competition acknowledges

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The 6 founding VFL teams seceded from the VFA, then inviting St Kilda and Carlton to join, so that doesnt back the argument that the VFA was the underling. The argument among the power brokers of the league in 1887 resulted in the breakaway formation of the VFL

But what are they really doing here? They're extending their records to an earlier time period that they deem worthy. Whether they should or not doesn't really matter or affect those premierships you spoke of.
So I'd say what was won concurrently to the VFL in the VFA will rightly not be included, otherwise the can of worms that includes all of Port's backwater flags is opened.

 

[Father Jack]

I wonder if Carlton still have all those old timey flags, or did some of them get buried with various bushrangers of the day

 

[The Blue Baggers]

Should happen !!

 

[Brain Power]

The best part about it was that between 1877 and 1887 the "premier" was decided by press consensus. That's right, the media chose the premier. Geelong won seven in that time frame.

Imagine Robbo, Hutchy, Stevo and Tom Browne doing that these days.

IF Damian Barrett had been allowed to choose the premier these past few years...

THEN the Bulldogs would still be stuck on one flag.

 

[Corpuscles]

It has to be said - this is absolutely meaningless!

A proper list would be a toss up between Adelaide Crows and Port Adelaide who both would be would be so far in front (on top) it would be even more ridiculous !
Closely followed by Fremantle and West Coast

National Competition ? Arrogant VFL/VFA Commission

Do Hawthorn give up a percentage to Tasmania?

 

[The Gong]

Fremantle fans must be beside themselves with excitement.

 

[DapperDon]

I was wondering what subject they would use to stop the media discussing their totally inept goal reply system.

 

[Hawthorn United]

So Port Adelaide now have the most Premierships? Or we doing selective backdating?

AFL HQ just like to keep breaking things in the game, they're now searching back to 1870 to break some more.

 

[Engimal v3]

Doesn't really make sense to me. The VFL was a breakaway league, separate from the VFA. The VFL/AFL are a continuous league, but the VFA is its own thing (until it became the new VFL).

 

[HawkMongrel]

What a surprise the league is being slowly destroyed by Steven Hocking.

One guess who might be behind this particular change.

 

[The Gong]

What a surprise the league is being slowly destroyed by Steven Hocking.

One guess who might be behind this particular change.

Steven Hocking?

 

[manureid]

Must have nothing to do at AFL House. Lookign forward to all of Ports Premierships being added.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

1870 !

Then include the Port premierships.

Now !!!

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Clubs already acknowledge their pre-1897 records. The AFL shouldn't retcon its own history.

 

[HTT]

If you do that you can no longer ignore Port’s SANFL flags. The VFA is no more relevant to the VFL/AFL than the SANFL.

 

[Atomboy]

Phew, for a moment there I thought we would be downgraded to zero flags

 

[Dazzler9]

Didn't Mike FitzPatrick propose this idea a few years ago, only for Eddie to come out strongly against it (since Carlton and Essendon would suddenly have about half a dozen more flags than Collingwood). The whole thing was effectively kyboshed at that point.

Eddie Watch, activated.

 

[Sentinel]

What a ridiculous concept. Pre-1990 VFL records count towards the tally because it was the same competition which was renamed to the AFL. That same competition only started in 1897.

Before 1897, the clubs competed in a completely different competition, which also included a number of different teams that never crossed over to the VFL. Do we now add clubs like West Melbourne, Williamstown and Port Melbourne to the record books, or are premierships the only records to be amended (which conveniently none of those other clubs won)?

 

[TheWoodenSlug]

About time! Of Geelong's 16 flags, I've always thought 1882 was the most enjoyable.

 

[teddies]

we definitely should change the rules because Colin Carter feels offended.

 

[Quinz]

Proposal brought up by the Geelong president.

I’m shocked!

 

[VicBased]

Begs the question of just who the Afl commission is comprised of.

 

[Boxhead_31]

HS Logic at its best.

South Melbourne Football Club/Sydney Swans - founded 1874, won VFA flags in 1881, 1885, 1888, 1889, 1890, which the HS state would double their tally to 10, from 5 AFL/VFL
Footscray Football Club/Western Bulldogs - founded 1877 - won VFA flags in 1898, 1899, 1900, 1908, 1913, 1919, 1920, 1923, 1924 - yet by the HS logic that remains at two? Someone cant count. That makes it 11 flags, not 2.

So if they're going to include the Swans tally, logic states you include all VFA club flags won in that period from 1888-1925

This be the years they are talking about, up to the creation of the VFL in 1896

 

[Saint Shags]

Next they'll look at the teams that won grand finals thanks to the Challenge system. Just leave it alone.