Analysis Players who didn’t get where they wanted

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Jun 28, 2013
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Often after trade period we hear about players who “got where they wanted”.

However, we seldom hear about those who remained where they didn’t want to be. Who are your top examples of this from years past?
 

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Ryan O'Keefe wanted to go to Hawthorn from Sydney.

Ended up staying at Sydney and ironically won a Norm Smith medal against the Hawks in the 2012 grand final
 
Wasnt Nick Stevens meant to go to the Pies, but went in the preseason draft to the Blues, because they again came bottom, years ago?
Yep, and no *s were given for the POS.

Port won a flag, he achieved nothing.

Shame we didn't get Didak though...
 
Yep, and no fu**s were given for the POS.

Port won a flag, he achieved nothing.

Shame we didn't get Didak though...

One of the few decisions I applaud Port for.

Even if they didnt win a flag it was still a win, the significant issue here is that Port (Non-Victorian) team didnt allow a Victorian team to get an A grade player at the time for peanuts.
 
Wasnt Nick Stevens meant to go to the Pies, but went in the preseason draft to the Blues, because they again came bottom, years ago?
He was number two in that draft, number one being Jade Rawlings, who wanted to go to North Melbourne but was shunted to the draft and ended up at the Bulldogs thanks to the Veale Deal.
 

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You wouldn't know it according to 'zeggie', but papley won't be at carlton next season":


"Looking forward to Papley relieving some more salary cap pressure for you.
He'll thrive at the Blues just like Newman has.
Unfortunately thanks to the AFL we'll have to wait another 5 days for trades to start trickling over."

"Please don't be upset this player has chosen us over you. It's nothing personal."

"He's contracted, he's publicly nominated us, we will ensure the trade gets over the line. The deal will get done.
To those referring to Gibbs, that was an entirely different situation. Young Reidy moved the clearly established and agreed goal posts on the last day of trading which caused the entire deal to fall over."

"The fact he toured our club this weekend gives a bit of an indication, lol."

"Well his heart is physically at Ikon Park this weekend, enjoying good discussions with our key staff and enjoying our facilities.
He's contracted for ages, so he's not touring and talking with us in an effort to get a higher contract offer from the Swans (ie. like what Gaff and Cogs did to several clubs). He's touring because he's keen and motivated to move."

IN TRUTH HE WAS WATCHING A FOOTBALL MATCH WITH HIS NAN

"Swans fans seem in denial. Paps is touring multiple clubs, spending his entire off season in Melbourne (where his partner lives).
What do you predict will happen?"

DID NOT TOUR ONE CLUB AND HAS BEEN OVERSEAS FOR SOME TIME WITH SWANS TEAMMATES

"I said if a player wants out, and nominates, he'll get to where he wants to go. Swans won't get a say.
He's coming to Melbourne. That I'm sure about.
If he nominates Carlton, he'll get to Carlton. If he nominates another team, he'll get to that team."

"It may not be Carlton. But he's coming to Melbourne.
Paps doesn't have 4 years remaining on his contract. It's a trigger Swans are threatening to activate. Big boy move."

"He's not in Melbourne for a "holiday".

"If he nominates, if Paps wants out, it will get done."

"Name a recent player, who wanted out, who nominated a club, and didn't eventually reach the club, same or otherwise, of their choosing.
Go on."

TOM PAPLEY

"Which logic is troubling you?
That players that want out get to where they want?"

"If Paps wants out. It gets done.
Gibbs was happy to stay.
Nice try."

"*If* Papley wants out, if Papley nominates a specific team, it will get done.
Pleeeenty of recent examples. Any example it didn't occur was because the player was happy to stay either way. ie. Kelly.
Otherwise you'll face a Cam McCarthy or Ryder type situation and nobody wants that."

"Papley will nominate where he wants to go, if he wants to go. If he does then it will be done."

"Ah yes, because in the recent history of AFL trade periods contracted players never get to their desired destination. Never ever. Lol.
Are you new?"

"I have a feeling the only experience in negotiation that some posters on here have is buying a TV from Harvey Norman..."

"Pick 8 gets this done if Paps wants.
You'll draft some more kids and trade in some cheap nobodies as usual. Just like you've done for the past 4 years."

"Papley triggered the option in the second half of this year. Not the Swans. If he did so with no intention of leaving then Paps or his management would be vocal about it right now. They aren't.
Clearly a tactical move. Swans either swallow what he'll cost now, or they trade him now and cash in."

THE PLEASURE HAS BEEN ALL MINE

:straining:
:poo::p
 
Didnt Shane Crawford, late in his career, want to go to the Swans but a deal couldnt get done?

Ironically, he gets stuck at Hawthorn and wins a flag in his final career match. Go figure
 
A few years ago, Cameron Delaney got delisted by North, with the public knowledge being that we intended to re-rookie him in the draft. Geelong snatched him up 1 pick before us, and delisted him the following year without ever playing a game for them.
 
You wouldn't know it according to 'zeggie', but papley won't be at carlton next season":



"Looking forward to Papley relieving some more salary cap pressure for you.
He'll thrive at the Blues just like Newman has.
Unfortunately thanks to the AFL we'll have to wait another 5 days for trades to start trickling over."

"Please don't be upset this player has chosen us over you. It's nothing personal."

"He's contracted, he's publicly nominated us, we will ensure the trade gets over the line. The deal will get done.
To those referring to Gibbs, that was an entirely different situation. Young Reidy moved the clearly established and agreed goal posts on the last day of trading which caused the entire deal to fall over."

"The fact he toured our club this weekend gives a bit of an indication, lol."

"Well his heart is physically at Ikon Park this weekend, enjoying good discussions with our key staff and enjoying our facilities.
He's contracted for ages, so he's not touring and talking with us in an effort to get a higher contract offer from the Swans (ie. like what Gaff and Cogs did to several clubs). He's touring because he's keen and motivated to move."

IN TRUTH HE WAS WATCHING A FOOTBALL MATCH WITH HIS NAN

"Swans fans seem in denial. Paps is touring multiple clubs, spending his entire off season in Melbourne (where his partner lives).
What do you predict will happen?"

DID NOT TOUR ONE CLUB AND HAS BEEN OVERSEAS FOR SOME TIME WITH SWANS TEAMMATES

"I said if a player wants out, and nominates, he'll get to where he wants to go. Swans won't get a say.
He's coming to Melbourne. That I'm sure about.
If he nominates Carlton, he'll get to Carlton. If he nominates another team, he'll get to that team."

"It may not be Carlton. But he's coming to Melbourne.
Paps doesn't have 4 years remaining on his contract. It's a trigger Swans are threatening to activate. Big boy move."

"He's not in Melbourne for a "holiday".

"If he nominates, if Paps wants out, it will get done."

"Name a recent player, who wanted out, who nominated a club, and didn't eventually reach the club, same or otherwise, of their choosing.
Go on."

TOM PAPLEY

"Which logic is troubling you?
That players that want out get to where they want?"

"If Paps wants out. It gets done.
Gibbs was happy to stay.
Nice try."

"*If* Papley wants out, if Papley nominates a specific team, it will get done.
Pleeeenty of recent examples. Any example it didn't occur was because the player was happy to stay either way. ie. Kelly.
Otherwise you'll face a Cam McCarthy or Ryder type situation and nobody wants that."

"Papley will nominate where he wants to go, if he wants to go. If he does then it will be done."

"Ah yes, because in the recent history of AFL trade periods contracted players never get to their desired destination. Never ever. Lol.
Are you new?"

"I have a feeling the only experience in negotiation that some posters on here have is buying a TV from Harvey Norman..."

"Pick 8 gets this done if Paps wants.
You'll draft some more kids and trade in some cheap nobodies as usual. Just like you've done for the past 4 years."

"Papley triggered the option in the second half of this year. Not the Swans. If he did so with no intention of leaving then Paps or his management would be vocal about it right now. They aren't.
Clearly a tactical move. Swans either swallow what he'll cost now, or they trade him now and cash in."

THE PLEASURE HAS BEEN ALL MINE
:straining:

:poo::p
:drunk: :drunk: :drunk:
 
Didnt Shane Crawford, late in his career, want to go to the Swans but a deal couldnt get done?

Ironically, he gets stuck at Hawthorn and wins a flag in his final career match. Go figure

Around the time Clarko came in, Crawf investigated his options due to the fact he didn't think Clarko liked him. From memory he met with Eddie McGuire who basically told him "mate you don't really want to leave - give it a year and if you still feel this way we can chat". Crawf talks about it in his book.
 
Dustin Martin wanted to go to North... in moment of weakness he re-signed with Richmond.
 
Around the time Clarko came in, Crawf investigated his options due to the fact he didn't think Clarko liked him. From memory he met with Eddie McGuire who basically told him "mate you don't really want to leave - give it a year and if you still feel this way we can chat". Crawf talks about it in his book.

So Crawf from NSW stayed in Melbourne.
 
Mitch Brown (West Coast version) wanted to get to the saints about five years ago. From memory the saints and eagles agreed to a trade three way trade but the bombers backed out.
 
Around the time Clarko came in, Crawf investigated his options due to the fact he didn't think Clarko liked him. From memory he met with Eddie McGuire who basically told him "mate you don't really want to leave - give it a year and if you still feel this way we can chat". Crawf talks about it in his book.

Understandable for a 30 year old given the path the club went down. 2005/6 were dog s**t and 2007/8 came earlier than expected. Had 2008 gone to script he could've been unlucky and spent his whole career sandwiched in between two great eras.
 
Nick Stevens... One of the few decisions I applaud Port for.

Port (Non-Victorian) team didnt allow a Victorian team to get an A grade player at the time for peanuts.

Is Carlton not in Victoria?



Ps - I know what you meant. Just being silly. Mind you, given what Stevens did to his partner, I wish he hadn't got to Carlton.
 
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What about Jade Rawlings?

Not only didn't get where he wanted, didn't get to change his mind and stay where he was either. Wanted to go go North, North and Hawthorn couldn't get a deal done so WB, Essendon and Hawthorn orchestrated the famous "Veale deal" to send pick 6 and Mark Alvey to Essendon, Lochlan Veale to WB and Danny Jacobs to Hawthorn, allowing the Bulldogs to pick up Rawlings at #1 in the PSD. Taking Essendon out of the picture the Dogs traded Alvey and pick 6 for some kid who was pick 65 the year before and had never played. In the end it was losers all round, but no way the AFL would rubber stamp it today.
 

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