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Scott Morrison - How Long? (Part 1 - Continued in Part 2)

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I am thinking that religious intolerance doesn’t come from the religious, but those who wish to sow hate and dissent in the community for their own personal benefit. (That is, political operatives and supporters on SM)

No one can surely argue that the respect for humanity and sense of ethics, that underpin human rights, often derive from our religious beliefs. Certainly, the major religions of the world emphasise our common humanity and the dignity and equality of individuals. Respect for fellow human beings, and of tolerance thereof, remains a principle of the world's major religions. Most countries reinforce their respect for religious differences through their constitutions. Certainly the ‘no bias rule’ is a major component of the principle of natural justice.
 

I love how he is throwing his own kids under the bus for why he went to Hawaii, "it's all because of the keeedz, they made me!"

Meanwhile we have volunteers putting their lives on the line, some lost theirs, trying to fight a national emergency. Scomo's the real victim because his keeeedz made him run away from said emergency
 

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It's been said a billion times but why did he try and sneak out fornthe country and not tell the press.

He maybe useless to a tea but this was amateur hour at the very very best and hes the leader of our nation on top of his comments in regards to Nixon 10 years ago, he deserves all the public ridicule he's getting.
I'm not going to argue that the optics are terrible and he's handled things incredibly poorly. I just don't think jumping on a bloke for prioritising time with his family over pats on the back and photo ops is a worthwhile discussion. I'd rather talk about what he's going to do in the aftermath when the federal government actually has a role to play in allocating resources.
 
Scummo's moonlight flit has at least alerted us to one very serious potential danger; when he's away, the acting PM is the Wagga Wagga w***er.

What a choice, eh. :rolleyes:
A combined empathy and leadership free zone.
 
I am thinking that religious intolerance doesn’t come from the religious, but those who wish to sow hate and dissent in the community for their own personal benefit. (That is, political operatives and supporters on SM)

No one can surely argue that the respect for humanity and sense of ethics, that underpin human rights, often derive from our religious beliefs. Certainly, the major religions of the world emphasise our common humanity and the dignity and equality of individuals. Respect for fellow human beings, and of tolerance thereof, remains a principle of the world's major religions. Most countries reinforce their respect for religious differences through their constitutions. Certainly the ‘no bias rule’ is a major component of the principle of natural justice.
If you need religion to have tolerance and respect for others ...you are a shit person
 
I'm not going to argue that the optics are terrible and he's handled things incredibly poorly. I just don't think jumping on a bloke for prioritising time with his family over pats on the back and photo ops is a worthwhile discussion. I'd rather talk about what he's going to do in the aftermath when the federal government actually has a role to play in allocating resources.

It shows really really bad leadership, at the very very best glad we agree..

I understand as a liberal shill you'd be concerned about the optics
 
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How do you think Howard would have handled this crisis?

I personally think he would have handled the optics far far far far far better than how Morrison has.

Part of being a PM is being a statesman/women and leading through troubled times (see Howard and Pt Arthur for an example) and he hasn't led at all during this issue.

At best case Morrison has been reactive throughout all of this issue and hes allowed others to dictate the pace and the ferocity of the vitriol (which isnt leadership).

We all remember how well John Howard handled the political aftermath of Port Arthur in regards to Gun laws, but honestly I don't recall any other PM's responses to other natural disasters that we've had over the last 40 years. Ash Wednesday, Black Saturday, Canberra bushfires, Queensland Floods. Actually, I mostly recall state premiers and civil leaders during those times.

I hear what you're saying though. I just don't buy into the whole "optics" hysteria which doesn't seem genuine to me and stinks of political oppertunism by his detractors. He's still finding his feet as PM in some ways, but you are right he does need to get on the front foot a bit more, and be more assertive especially against the vitriol directed at him. He really needs to stop pandering to those that want nothing more than to see him fail.
 
I think attacking ScoMo for taking a holiday with his family when he'd be pretty much useless while these fires are going on is ridiculous. I also think suggesting that there is "something seriously wrong with you leftist outrage merchants" is inflammatory and divisive rather than constructive and solution-focused.

And the leftists attacking opposing views with vitriol and ad hom is not inflammatory? Please. Sling shit and expect some of it to come back your way.
 
Why? What purpose are these labels serving? Read up and you'll see I've called out someone on the other side for the same shit.

FWIW, I don't think an overseas holiday while a natural disaster is unfolding was a wise move and I think covering it up was downright moronic. But I'm not going to knock the bloke for prioritising his family over a few photo ops.

And the leftists attacking opposing views with vitriol and ad hom is not inflammatory? Please. Sling shit and expect some of it to come back your way.
I understand where you're coming from. All. I'm saying to you and the bloke above is that it doesn't help resolve anything.
 

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I am thinking that religious intolerance doesn’t come from the religious, but those who wish to sow hate and dissent in the community for their own personal benefit. (That is, political operatives and supporters on SM)

Here comes the standard victim mentality by the religious, "we are the victims and we are being persecuted", which is not true at all. You guys frame any valid criticism of your faith and organisation as persecution in order to avoid scrutiny, the oldest trick in the book

Pretty sure the people who sow hate and dissent are the ones who uses god as an excuse to persecute homosexuals, left handed people, pagans, other religions throughout history.

No one can surely argue that the respect for humanity and sense of ethics, that underpin human rights, often derive from our religious beliefs. Certainly, the major religions of the world emphasise our common humanity and the dignity and equality of individuals. Respect for fellow human beings, and of tolerance thereof, remains a principle of the world's major religions. Most countries reinforce their respect for religious differences through their constitutions. Certainly the ‘no bias rule’ is a major component of the principle of natural justice.

Yes, we can indeed argue that. Many countries without the influence of religious beliefs have come to the same moral standards as those who do, eastern asian countries in ancient times have come to conclusions of no murder, no stealing, etc etc. It is just a natural progression and evolution of human society that the rules are established.

If you want to credit religious beliefs for "human rights and sense of ethics", then you must also credit them with slavery for 1600 years, the countless wars started on religious grounds, their role in violent colonialism, etc etc. You can't just cherry pick the bits that suit you

Respect for fellow human beings

Except if you're of a different religion, homosexual, or children we are incredibly attracted to, and subsequent abuse victims who want justice. Such respects for those people
 
"Labor leader Anthony Albanese wants an urgent meeting of state and federal leaders to discuss the bushfire threat and address the need to pay firefighters.

"I say to the Prime Minister he can do three things immediately," Mr Albanese said, "which is to bring forward the COAG [Council of Australian Governments] meeting, meet the former fire chiefs, and do something now to provide support for those volunteer firefighters who have been in the field for such a long time".

Mr Morrison said the meeting would not be moved and he had received no requests from fire chiefs for firefighter compensation."
The meeting is scheduled for March. Un****ingreal. Can't put his bullshit religious discrimination bill on the backburner for a bit?
 
Why? What purpose are these labels serving? Read up and you'll see I've called out someone on the other side for the same shit.

FWIW, I don't think an overseas holiday while a natural disaster is unfolding was a wise move and I think covering it up was downright moronic. But I'm not going to knock the bloke for prioritising his family over a few photo ops.


I understand where you're coming from. All. I'm saying to you and the bloke above is that it doesn't help resolve anything.
It's not just going away. It's refusing to supply even ****ing basic survival supplies and then using taxpayer money to fly on a private army jet to the Murdoch Christmas party and then using FURTHER taxpayer funds to go on holiday. Do you think taxpayers would rather have their money go to giving the firies water and museli bars or towards ScoMo's end-of-year celebrations?
 
Also the "fires are a State Government issue" rebuttal is really depressing.

Here's a simple yes or no question I'd love one of ScoMo's defenders to answer: is it ethical for ScoMo to be using hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to get hammered with the Murdochs and **** off to Hawaii while the firefighters have to crowdsource for water?

Here's an alternative: does ScoMo using hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to get hammered with the Murdochs and **** off to Hawaii while the firefighters have to crowdsource for water make him a very good Christian?

Yes/no answers only please.
 
Oh the double standards. Crickets from leftists.


Mathew Guy was a minister in a govt that cut 40 million from the CFA in 2013 so he should keep his mouth shut
 

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"Labor leader Anthony Albanese wants an urgent meeting of state and federal leaders to discuss the bushfire threat and address the need to pay firefighters.

"I say to the Prime Minister he can do three things immediately," Mr Albanese said, "which is to bring forward the COAG [Council of Australian Governments] meeting, meet the former fire chiefs, and do something now to provide support for those volunteer firefighters who have been in the field for such a long time".

Mr Morrison said the meeting would not be moved and he had received no requests from fire chiefs for firefighter compensation."
The meeting is scheduled for March. Un*******real. Can't put his bullshit religious discrimination bill on the backburner for a bit?
Morrison simply doesn't care. You can't put it any more bluntly.
 
I am thinking that religious intolerance doesn’t come from the religious, but those who wish to sow hate and dissent in the community for their own personal benefit. (That is, political operatives and supporters on SM)

No one can surely argue that the respect for humanity and sense of ethics, that underpin human rights, often derive from our religious beliefs. Certainly, the major religions of the world emphasise our common humanity and the dignity and equality of individuals. Respect for fellow human beings, and of tolerance thereof, remains a principle of the world's major religions. Most countries reinforce their respect for religious differences through their constitutions. Certainly the ‘no bias rule’ is a major component of the principle of natural justice.

Religious intolerance? The Spanish inquisition says hi!. The Crusaders say hi! Heretics say hi! etc etc

Religion = 2000 years of intolerance, corruption, rape, theft & lies. ie As the saying says, Do as I say, not as I do. Says it all about the religious adherence to what they espouse.

Natural Justice? That depends on the quality of legal representation you can afford &/or how much money you have.
 
Twitter is like 90% hard-left but according to them they're the mainstream (except when it comes to winning elections lol)



Fine, continue to keep your head in the sand while the traditional working class continue to move right of Labor.

Want to actually back up that statement that Twitter is 90% hard left with some hard evidence or is this more bullshit from the bullshitters?

What sort of world do you live in?
 
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