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Bryce Gibbs was having like 30 touches and 4 goal games in the SANFL while Hawkins played school footy. I don't think he was a lock for #1 but definitely top few.
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I didnt follow the draft as closely as you did but yeah what I remember seeing of him I thought he was going at least top2.Not sure if you recall that draft but I followed it actually quite closely and watched all the underage carnival games plus some more, and he was by far going to be the no1 pick in an open draft. I actually haven’t seen key forward dominance like it at junior level since. He had regularly 2 defenders on him and would just jump on top of them and take marks all day long. It was something you don’t see often. I always felt he didn’t achieve his full potential based off his junior ability. Probably born a key forward in the wrong era for his powerful type.
So where would the clear standout no1 key forward go in a bidding system?? Could have ended up like you said and a joe Danniher style at pick 7 bid, or earlier if a team is very keen. But for sure hit and miss to make it that far in a bid system given he was going no1.
From that draft we essentially got pick 1,7 from the first round on draft night.. was a dream result in a super draft
Not sure if you recall that draft but I followed it actually quite closely and watched all the underage carnival games plus some more, and he was by far going to be the no1 pick in an open draft. I actually haven’t seen key forward dominance like it at junior level since. He had regularly 2 defenders on him and would just jump on top of them and take marks all day long. It was something you don’t see often. I always felt he didn’t achieve his full potential based off his junior ability. Probably born a key forward in the wrong era for his powerful type.
So where would the clear standout no1 key forward go in a bidding system?? Could have ended up like you said and a joe Danniher style at pick 7 bid, or earlier if a team is very keen. But for sure hit and miss to make it that far in a bid system given he was going no1.
From that draft we essentially got pick 1,7 from the first round on draft night.. was a dream result in a super draft
Bryce Gibbs was having like 30 touches and 4 goal games in the SANFL while Hawkins played school footy. I don't think he was a lock for #1 but definitely top few.
Agreed but key forwards almost always get drafted rnd 1 if they are any good. Gibbs and Gumbleton were really rated as were Boak and Selwood but i think Hawkins would have gone #1 or #2.
I remember reading the hype on young Tom and after being a Jack fan as a kid I was eager to see. First look was when they pulled him out of school footy and he played on Gumbleton who had a similar hype on him, in the champs. As you said, Tommy tore him a new one all day. It was mouthwatering stuff to a Cats fan. To get him where we did any wonder the rules changed. And after next years circus of a draft the rules will change yet again.Yes I remember the draft and Hawkins being the big dominant forward .. and Gumbelton got picked by ESS at 2 ..and Hawkins treated Gumbelton with disdain. But Gibbs was also an extreme dominant player at the level wit high potential.. He and Sellar was talked up quiet a bit in that draft.. The example of Daniher is a fair one ..as his pedigree and potential was similar to Hawkins... and the bidding historically has shown teams do not pay overs for bid players they pay unders. Clubs rarely bid early on them. Id say we essentially got two top 5 players in Selwood and Hawkins ... its was a game changer. No wonder the others clubs ensured the system changed.
The simple truth is what we built our greatest era on ..is probably not repeatable. The fluke of having multiple tall Father Sons.. having an Ablett Hawkins Scarlett Blake Woolonough to draft , let alone having them up end talent wize is dream stuff. Compare it to now... one would have thought genetically Billy B might have delivered a 196cm etc. Jack Hawkins was 188 and in comes Tom at 198 ... Billy was 192 .. and Oscar .. 187...
Mitch Thorpe will always be my favourite draft story.I remember at the time, Kevin Sheehan saying that in an uncomprimised draft both Selwood and Hawkins should be in the top 3 picks of that year in his opinion.
I remember reading the hype on young Tom and after being a Jack fan as a kid I was eager to see. First look was when they pulled him out of school footy and he played on Gumbleton who had a similar hype on him, in the champs. As you said, Tommy tore him a new one all day. It was mouthwatering stuff to a Cats fan. To get him where we did any wonder the rules changed. And after next years circus of a draft the rules will change yet again.
Thats sort of like Dermie at Syd. after 5 flags with Haw ... nice to see a tad of the struggle street bless his CV. Haw got plenty right at draft ..its probably a little bit unusual that they had a total miss. Seeing Joel at Haw thru that period would have been horrific viewing for the last decade and half...Mitch Thorpe will always be my favourite draft story.
Saw him kick six from about 25 disposals at Glenelg Oval one day (playing League). Absolutely freak junior, probably the best junior I've seen.
Shows we havent had a really good FS for a while when we are think on Gibbs... LOL... who is our next FS..Kilpatrick?
So in the short term we have Kilpatrick, Riccardo, Sholl. Any of these lads in the elite systems at this stage ?This quote is from six years ago:
“From 1990s, when the club played in three unsuccessful Grand Finals, are John Barnes (James, 18, Jack, 19) Bill Brownless (Oscar, 14, Max, 8) Ronnie Burns (Brayden, 16, Tylar, 15) Paul Couch (Joe, 18) Ben Graham (Jack, 5) Garry Hocking (Lochlan, 13) Glenn Kilpatrick (Peter, 13, William, 11) Kent Kingsley (Boston, 1) David Mensch (Baxter, 13) Peter Riccardi (Oscar, 9, Boston, 6) Brad Sholl (Mitchell, 10, Campbell, 8) and Sean Simpson (Sam, 13).”
No chance.Shows we havent had a really good FS for a while when we are think on Gibbs... LOL... who is our next FS..Kilpatrick?
Why is he wearing North Melbourne colours?
120 games for dad at Geelong, certainly qualifies on those grounds.Wil kilpatrick the son of Glen has made the Falcons list again.
Is he a father son draft chance?
Bryce Gibbs was having like 30 touches and 4 goal games in the SANFL while Hawkins played school footy. I don't think he was a lock for #1 but definitely top few.
I remember at the time, Kevin Sheehan saying that in an uncomprimised draft both Selwood and Hawkins should be in the top 3 picks of that year in his opinion.
Wil kilpatrick the son of Glen has made the Falcons list again.
Is he a father son draft chance?
That's pretty tall for an oyster.According to this link he's only 18cm tall, so it's unlikely. But on a serious note, he played 13 games for the Falcons last year and averaged just nine disposals. I don't know what role he played, but I daresay he's got some work to do.