Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *
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Not really surprising...
China’s coronavirus conspiracy: Wuhan residents tell of chilling death toll clue
Some residents believe that up to 18 times the number of people have died in their city from COVID-19 than authorities are reporting.7news.com.au
China needs to be treated like North Korea if we are been serious. They're letting the virus spread again.
If North Korea fired a nuke it may not even be as damaging. China is attempting to fire a second nuke and we're just sleep at the wheel... AGAIN.
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Yes they did, like everybody else would've done more sooner.
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Finally someone in the AFL with an ounce of integrity and empathy. David Noble, well done.
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"The first thing for me is I want to see our (stood-down) staff looked after. That's not saying I don't think the players are a priority, but if the money is not in the game, then we can't honour those contracts, can we?
"That's just going to be a financial equation we're going to have to work. How that looks, I've got no idea, to be honest.
"It'd be nice if we could bring everybody back at the same level and rate but I'm not sure that's where the game's going to land over the next couple of years."
Noble: If the money isn't there, how do we 'honour' player contracts?
Brisbane football boss David Noble has ongoing concerns about COVID cash crisis
"The first thing for me is I want to see our (stood-down) staff looked after. That's not saying I don't think the players are a priority, but if the money is not in the game, then we can't honour those contracts, can we?
"That's just going to be a financial equation we're going to have to work. How that looks, I've got no idea, to be honest.
"It'd be nice if we could bring everybody back at the same level and rate but I'm not sure that's where the game's going to land over the next couple of years."
They've even admitted to change reporting and reporting 70% less of cases. The changes in reporting made:
Even if tested positive
- asymptomatic were not considered contagious so not reported
- outpatients were not reported
Now times that by ten.
Evidence of something that would be idiotic.
People in Wuhan know that deaths have been dramatically under reported, and people are unhappy about it.
If they are suppressing news of the infection, then that means they are suppressing attempts to halt it. After all, you cannot confine people to home without them being aware of this.
If the disease is rampant, and unchecked in China, it will cause devastation, and bring down fury on the CCP.
If they see the disease as a threat, and fight it, this cannot remain secret. As I said, you cannot restrict peoples movements without them knowing, you cannot build emergency hospitals without people knowing. If people know that the Wuhan crematoriums are working massively overtime, why dont they know about any other crematoriums.
Even for a despotic yet rationale government like the CCP, this would be a self harming and irrational action.
The world knows the disease comes from China, what is achieved by pretending its gone away if it hasnt?
This is the sort of conspiracy that makes sense in a movie, because you can just write, the government fought the disease, and suppressed news of this across the country, and nobody figured it out.
But in the nitty gritty of actual real world motive, interest and capacity to do this, its nonsensical.
Note, that an actual second outbreak in china is entirely possible, and some experts are even predicting its likely
We won't know the true numbers for a while.
Even Italy there is underreported deaths by Covid-19 and they are aware of that. Unlike the CCP life is much more valuable to them and they will be transparent.
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What happens to AFL memberships? I joined for the first time this year. Am I expected to keep paying for likely nothing?
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So Australia is definitely going down the path of achieving herd immunity by controlling the spread of the virus, as opposed to going for total elimination. Very risky path to take, because if total elimination is a possibility at any stage and that option is not exercised, surely the federal government is open for a class action lawsuit for families of deceased people as a result of COVID19?
Not to mention that health experts still dont 100% understand everything about the virus. Two different strains? Long term health side effects? Genetic pre-disposition to virus? Its a *ingg slippery slope they are going down.
Not to mention that health experts still dont 100% understand everything about the virus. Two different strains? Long term health side effects? Genetic pre-disposition to virus? Its a *ingg slippery slope they are going down.
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US Senator J. Hawley, a Republican, has introduced a resolution into the US Senate to hold China FULLY culpable for the covid-19 coverups, lies, & devestation it is FULLY responsible for unleashing onto the world.
He
" ... is calling for an international investigation into the Chinese government's handling of the coronavirus outbreak".
"...said the international community should quantify the damages from the coronavirus pandemic and force Beijing to pay for the lives & livelihoods that it has destroyed (all my emphases).
www.businessinsider.com.au
Hawley's views are certain to be echoed by many other US politicians (a few have made similar comments); & other countries' politicians (There have been reports of the British Conservative Party govt. wanting China to face a "reckoning" over its culpability).
It is very unlikely that China will voluntarily agree/cooperate to either of the plans in Hawley's Resolution.
This type of international response/anger etc. over China's culpabilty, & concomitant compensation, is very likely to become a major international issue for many years, so massive are the death/illnessses/financial losses. The Chinese Communist Party cannot simply solve this problem, as it does with some domestic "irritants": loss of job, or uni. enrolment, jail term,"re-education camp","disappearance", or execution.
He
" ... is calling for an international investigation into the Chinese government's handling of the coronavirus outbreak".
"...said the international community should quantify the damages from the coronavirus pandemic and force Beijing to pay for the lives & livelihoods that it has destroyed (all my emphases).
A US senator is calling for an investigation into China's handling of the coronavirus outbreak and wants Beijing to pay for damages
Sen. Josh Hawley, a Missouri Republican, is calling for an international investigation into the Chinese government’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak. He also said the international community should quantify the damages from the coronavirus pandemic and force Beijing “to pay for the lives...
www.businessinsider.com.au
Hawley's views are certain to be echoed by many other US politicians (a few have made similar comments); & other countries' politicians (There have been reports of the British Conservative Party govt. wanting China to face a "reckoning" over its culpability).
It is very unlikely that China will voluntarily agree/cooperate to either of the plans in Hawley's Resolution.
This type of international response/anger etc. over China's culpabilty, & concomitant compensation, is very likely to become a major international issue for many years, so massive are the death/illnessses/financial losses. The Chinese Communist Party cannot simply solve this problem, as it does with some domestic "irritants": loss of job, or uni. enrolment, jail term,"re-education camp","disappearance", or execution.
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I suggest you look up the definition of wet markets because it appears the media don’t have a clue. There are many wet markets in all parts of the world including China. The majority of wet markets do the right thing but SOME persist in the exotic live animal trade and this is the part that needs to be stopped. A wet market itself isn’t a problem
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Swans membership? Treat it as a donation to keep the club afloat
Given the absence of a vaccine, total elimination is not even a viable option.
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There will be revolution in Italy and maybe France before the end of May IMO. People won't stay home anymore, the police will start arresting people but soon run out space in jail. Police will refuse to shoot the protestors and the whole system will go down. Other countries will be forced to end lockdown and pursue herd immunity as soon as possible
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1 in a 1000 years? I would give that 1 to the bubonic plague..
1 in a 1000? Every single known influenza & cold virus has only been transferred to us in the past 500 years. Mainly from ducks, chickens & pigs..
I was listening to a telephone call made on February 4 to a funeral director in Wuhan who was complaining at the amount of bodies coming in. Keep in mind this funeral home we not one of the bigger ones.
They received 127 in one day. The funeral director said 8 had been listed as confirmed pneumonia on death certificates, 48 suspected cases of pneumonia, this is in one day, and not a large funeral home.
That day there was 65 reported deaths to Covid-19 in China. The next day 73.
She also said it started to spike unusually on 22nd of January. There were only 17 cases reported then worldwide.
They received 127 in one day. The funeral director said 8 had been listed as confirmed pneumonia on death certificates, 48 suspected cases of pneumonia, this is in one day, and not a large funeral home.
That day there was 65 reported deaths to Covid-19 in China. The next day 73.
She also said it started to spike unusually on 22nd of January. There were only 17 cases reported then worldwide.
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Sadly that's true.
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Taiwan has c. 24m people, had (until recently) many travellers to & from China- but only has c. 300 covid-19 cases, with 5 deaths.
Its success is built on:-
. very early recognition of the covid-19 dangers (despite the Chinese Communist Party's coverup & lies).
. very early bans on travellers to & from China, entering Taiwan.
. strict enforced quarantine protocols- which included careful monitoring that those people observed their quarantine
. strong testing & tracing measures; & social distancing.
Despite their obvious success, the WHO, generally, ignored Taiwan, & its offers to help with covid-19 advice & expertise.
US Senator M. Rubio , & others, say this is because the WHO allows itself to be too heavily influenced by the demands of the CCP (which provides considerable funding for the WHO).
www.bbc.com
Its success is built on:-
. very early recognition of the covid-19 dangers (despite the Chinese Communist Party's coverup & lies).
. very early bans on travellers to & from China, entering Taiwan.
. strict enforced quarantine protocols- which included careful monitoring that those people observed their quarantine
. strong testing & tracing measures; & social distancing.
Despite their obvious success, the WHO, generally, ignored Taiwan, & its offers to help with covid-19 advice & expertise.
US Senator M. Rubio , & others, say this is because the WHO allows itself to be too heavily influenced by the demands of the CCP (which provides considerable funding for the WHO).
Why Taiwan has become a problem for WHO
Taiwan is effectively locked out of the World Health Organization - and tensions are rising.
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Taiwan has c. 24m people, had (until recently) many travellers to & from China- but only has c. 300 covid-19 cases, with 5 deaths.
Its success is built on:-
. very early recognition of the covid-19 dangers (despite the Chinese Communist Party's coverup & lies).
. very early bans on travellers fron China entering Taiwan.
. strict enforced quarantine protocols- which included careful monitoring that those people observed their quarantine
. strong testing & tracing measures; & social distancing.
Despite their obvious success, the WHO, generally, ignored Taiwan, & its offers to help with covid-19.
US Senator M. Rubio , & others, say this is because the WHO allows itself to be too heavily influenced by the demands of the CCP (which provides considerable funding for the WHO).
Why Taiwan has become a problem for WHO
Taiwan is effectively locked out of the World Health Organization - and tensions are rising.
The head of the WHO also got the job though China's support plus his home country is reliant on Chinese trade investment.
So outrageously corrupt.
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I think we can say without a shadow of a doubt there won't be any AFL game in China next year or possibly for a few more years
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