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Team of the Century? No commentAlso one of three Fitzroy Team of the Century (well 99 seasons if you want to be technical) players who played at Collingwood....
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Team of the Century? No commentAlso one of three Fitzroy Team of the Century (well 99 seasons if you want to be technical) players who played at Collingwood....
and Adrian McAdam!
Think we got much better value out of Russell than Beams. Russell cost nothing, Beams cost two top 20 picks.How many games did Beams play for us.. I'd take 1 Beams game over 9 Jordan Russell games.. Russell was the biggest kreas I've ever seen.. the bloke would get the pill.. stand statuesque for a good 2 secs waiting to get mauled in a tackle.. or would Appleby/Crocker like turn it over for no good reason..
Think we got much better value out of Russell than Beams. Russell cost nothing, Beams cost two top 20 picks.
One pick was what he was worth, two was criminal negligence, and that is regardless of how things turned out. Two first round picks for a player too close to 30 is poor list management.
I never thought it was what we needed. His style of play did not offer anything different to what we had and he has been battered over many years of his career. We were short of KPs or if a mid, maybe one with some outside speed. If he and Sidey had not wanted him to come back to us, he would not have been on the priority list of recruits. He had known issues too.Regardless.. the deal was done.. might have been the missing piece we needed. Didn't work out.
Over time what are 2 top 20 picks worth say if they turn out to be guns.. or not.. salary cap pressure.. squeezing players out to accommodate for em.. losing quality players as a result.. generally speaking.. I'm not a great big fan of the draft.. there are so many variables involved here.. not just.. ehhhh we just gave up 2 top 20s..
Regardless.. the deal was done.. might have been the missing piece we needed. Didn't work out.
Over time what are 2 top 20 picks worth say if they turn out to be guns.. or not.. salary cap pressure.. squeezing players out to accommodate for em.. losing quality players as a result.. generally speaking.. I'm not a great big fan of the draft.. there are so many variables involved here.. not just.. ehhhh we just gave up 2 top 20s..
So it's a bad thing if your top draft picks turn out to be guns because that'll create salary cap pressure...?
It's not the deal that was the problem, it was the ridiculous price for someone we really didn't need and who was about to hit 30 with massive off-field issues.
1 top 20 pick. The 2018 first rounder ended up being pick 21. I don’t mind people being unhappy with the trade, but don’t change facts to make it sound even worse than it actually was.Think we got much better value out of Russell than Beams. Russell cost nothing, Beams cost two top 20 picks.
One pick was what he was worth, two was criminal negligence, and that is regardless of how things turned out. Two first round picks for a player too close to 30 is poor list management.
Nevertheless it was a really bad trade. I am in agreement with AndrewShawble above your post. We need to get him off the list so that Beams, his art work and classes, and all the negative baggage that he carries can be moved out of sight and mind.1 top 20 pick. The 2018 first rounder ended up being pick 21. I don’t mind people being unhappy with the trade, but don’t change facts to make it sound even worse than it actually was.
Where did the 2019 pick end up? Probably somewhere similar.1 top 20 pick. The 2018 first rounder ended up being pick 21. I don’t mind people being unhappy with the trade, but don’t change facts to make it sound even worse than it actually was.
Beam's shoes shouldn't be in the club.Wonderin what most supporters would do if they happened to be in Beams' shoes......
Beam's shoes shouldn't be in the club.
No but that doesn't stop me wishing he was gone already! His manner of leaving the club some years back lost him my support. I will never understand why he was traded back in.No one is denying that it was a very poor trade. That's a no brainer. However once it was done, well buyer beware. So must Beams take sole responsibility for this poor trade and just walk away?
18. We missed out on Giorgiades with that one so it hurt a bit, but 21 in 2018 was meh anyway imo.Where did the 2019 pick end up? Probably somewhere similar.
s**t trade that didn't work out, but hardly the end of the world.
Yes. It’s not just the trade — he’s obviously not available to play.No one is denying that it was a very poor trade. That's a no brainer. However once it was done, well buyer beware. So must Beams take sole responsibility for this poor trade and just walk away?
No but that doesn't stop me wishing he was gone already! His manner of leaving the club some years back lost him my support. I will never understand why he was traded back in.
Play footy.Wonderin what most supporters would do if they happened to be in Beams' shoes......
18. We missed out on Giorgiades with that one so it hurt a bit, but 21 in 2018 was meh anyway imo.