Socialism would be the eventual dream, we might actually get something done rather than a do-nothing leader that they are.
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Socialism would be the eventual dream, we might actually get something done rather than a do-nothing leader that they are.
Iv'e never heard him called that.
I could call Steve Bracks any one of a hundred names
Good old ' Thievin' Steven ' is about as close to a socialist as I've ever seen in Australian politics, in my lifetime.
He operates very much on that ' Robin Hood ' principle of ' steal from the rich to give to the poor ' his obsession with speed cameras is morbid - I noted on an Xmas visit they're now fixed to every single bridge on the Princes Highway!!
As well as that a lot of his policies are very socialist.
You're right there. Those ones who spend most of the time looking at the speedo and not at the road in front of them - or crawling along at 20 kmh below the speed limit.Im a big fan of speed camera's and booze busses and drug busses. too many idiots on the road.
This is one of the main things that worries me about the political landscape in Australia: the fact there are so many people who fail to see what these things really are - taxes by stealth.
In Bracks' view of the world, anyone who can afford to own and operate a car, or own a property, etc is ' rich ' and therefore must be targeted for maximum tax, usually by stealth as above. Does the money get put back into infrastructure?? No sir.steals from the rich? in what way?
Which aren't?which policies of his are socialist?
er we have two cars, one has a small warning when u go over the speed limit, I have it set at 63/83/103. the other will be replaced sometime in the next 12 months.You're right there. Those ones who spend most of the time looking at the speedo and not at the road in front of them - or crawling along at 20 kmh below the speed limit.
This is one of the main things that worries me about the political landscape in Australia: the fact there are so many people who fail to see what these things really are - taxes by stealth.
In Bracks' view of the world, anyone who can afford to own and operate a car, or own a property, etc is ' rich ' and therefore must be targeted for maximum tax, usually by stealth as above. Does the money get put back into infrastructure?? No sir.
Which aren't?
It takes me less than a fraction of a second to monitor the speed limit, it probably takes me more time to check the rear vision mirror and the blind spot.
nothing to do with taxes by stealth, haven't paid a traffic fine in this more stricter period in over 15 years. how can it be a tax if you dont break the law, i drive in the city and my wife does a round trip of of 100 kms 4 or 5 times a week, and neither of us have had a traffic fine, I see no problem in it, in fact i would like every set of lights fitted out with a red light camera.
er we have two cars and a motorcycle, we are not super wealthy but comfortable, and I have no problems with our road laws. We are probably going to be stung with the capital gains tax this FY, but really thats based on the choice of investments we have made and thats a federal issue not a state issue.
er we have two cars, one has a small warning when u go over the speed limit, I have it set at 63/83/103. the other will be replaced sometime in the next 12 months.
It takes me less than a fraction of a second to monitor the speed limit, it probably takes me more time to check the rear vision mirror and the blind spot.
nothing to do with taxes by stealth, haven't paid a traffic fine in this more stricter period in over 15 years. how can it be a tax if you dont break the law, i drive in the city and my wife does a round trip of of 100 kms 4 or 5 times a week, and neither of us have had a traffic fine, I see no problem in it, in fact i would like every set of lights fitted out with a red light camera.
er we have two cars and a motorcycle, we are not super wealthy but comfortable, and I have no problems with our road laws. We are probably going to be stung with the capital gains tax this FY, but really thats based on the choice of investments we have made and thats a federal issue not a state issue.
Then that's fair enough. You seem to be acting responsibly and doing what you can to avoid the issue, so that's fine by me.
Not everyone can afford to do these things though. That's the problem.
My description of Bracks as a socialist, or more accurately, a plonker of the highest order, does not revolve solely around this issue - it's a fair chunk of it, but it's just one piece of the jigsaw.
Remember immediately after he came to power in 1999 and the electricity union started a campaign of rolling strikes in one of the hottest summers on record? What did he do? Nothing.
A lot of his policies revolve around spending huge amounts for unnecessary projects which are supposed to benefit everyone but the blowouts will hurt everyone in the long run.
And what of all his blow and bluster about increasing police numbers??
Then that's fair enough. You seem to be acting responsibly and doing what you can to avoid the issue, so that's fine by me.
Not everyone can afford to do these things though. That's the problem.
My description of Bracks as a socialist, or more accurately, a plonker of the highest order, does not revolve solely around this issue - it's a fair chunk of it, but it's just one piece of the jigsaw.
Remember immediately after he came to power in 1999 and the electricity union started a campaign of rolling strikes in one of the hottest summers on record? What did he do? Nothing.
A lot of his policies revolve around spending huge amounts for unnecessary projects which are supposed to benefit everyone but the blowouts will hurt everyone in the long run.
And what of all his blow and bluster about increasing police numbers??
not afford to look at the speedo?
so hes not a socialist but a plonker? where do plonkers sit in the political spectrum?
the power companies were sold by kennett, why is it bracks problem? as long as the union followed the law, i dont have a problem with the withdrawal of labor.
I am no fan of bracks, but a socialist? as for wasting money, you only have to look at the massive waste by the howard government, the stealth fighters, the superseasprites, subsidies for private health insurance, the FTA with the US is costing the australian economy billions, the war in iraq etc etc, Bracksie will hvae a long way to go to waste money like howard has.
not afford to look at the speedo?
so hes not a socialist but a plonker? where do plonkers sit in the political spectrum?
the power companies were sold by kennett, why is it bracks problem? as long as the union followed the law, i dont have a problem with the withdrawal of labor.
I am no fan of bracks, but a socialist? as for wasting money, you only have to look at the massive waste by the howard government, the stealth fighters, the superseasprites, subsidies for private health insurance, the FTA with the US is costing the australian economy billions, the war in iraq etc etc, Bracksie will hvae a long way to go to waste money like howard has.
Dan, I've enjoyed the debate in this thread and the other with you, but I fear it's now starting to go off course. Let's continue another time, huh?
As for Bracksy and limited activity, I think the one interesting sign is that I got the new Melway the otherday and there are stuff all changes to the transport network. Not even many "mooted" road systems. Lots and lots of studies about what we can do, to be further followed by more feasibility studies on something else, which will in turn need to be verified by another study. Once that study comes back, Parliament can debate it and probably agree to conduct another study.
Public transport is another area where Bracks loses major points IMO. You guys have the potential to have a world class PT system, but it's being run in a totally shambolic manner.
The medical system is also in disarray, if my information sources are correct.
Public transport is another area where Bracks loses major points IMO. You guys have the potential to have a world class PT system, but it's being run in a totally shambolic manner.
The medical system is also in disarray, if my information sources are correct.
Sydney's the worst I've ever caught anywhere in the world.Melbourne PT > Brisbane PT, can't comment on other states as I haven't caught PT there.
You think?Melbourne PT > Brisbane PT, can't comment on other states as I haven't caught PT there.
You think?
I've used the rail a bit in Brisbane and found the train service to be excellent.
Mainly on the Caboolture / Nambour line and the connecting bus / rail links to Maroochydore.
Can't say as I've had too many experiences of good service or efficiency on the Melbourne system and it is horribly expensive.
Works relative to cost of living and cost of alternatives such as parking your car in the city. Sydney's is amazingly expensive, and you can't even use one ticket for various modes of transport.Can't say as I've had too many experiences of good service or efficiency on the Melbourne system and it is horribly expensive.
so if you lived in Scarborough or the Redlands, you'd be content with the service then?
What is wrong with the public transport in Scarborough?? I lived in Perth for quite a number of years and never had any hassle there with the pt systems..
Trains and buses ran quite frequently. Unless things have changed suddenly.
err scarborough Brisbane