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He looks good as a late pick.


BEAU McCREERY
South Adelaide

Medium forward

19, 186cm, 80kg

Ranking points: 72


Cross says: “The speed that bloke has is unbelievable. His pressure around the contest reminds me of the way Richmond has played in the past four years, so he would fit in perfectly there, as that pressure forward. He plays with great intensity and also has an eye for goal.’’

We say: As good as McCreery is offensively, booting 19 goals and rating elite for score assists, it’s his ability to also be so effective as a pressure forward that has kept him on the radar. The 186cm McCreery was the No. 1 ranked player in the SANFL for F50 tackles this year. He creates a contest in the air and, if he’s not the first one at the ball on the ground, he’s often the first player crashing into the opposition.
 

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Has he shown enough to be picked up this year?
No and I still don't understand how he suddenly became draft eligible. The WA footy media have always said he is a 2021 f/s prospect. Seems strange nobody ever picked up on it from past articles if it were wrong. Anyways it's 2020 - nothing makes much sense.
 
If Walker and Western get bid where we have planned for by shifting points, to avoid a deficit in next year's second round draft pick. Then our 5th pick in the national draft is likely the last pick in the national draft 55ish

If our first rookie selection is approximately the 62nd pick overall (55ish in the national draft). Then we can still snag a potential Luke Ryan with 1 year and 80k less commitment.

I don't think this year's draft crop is any less quality than other recent drafts, just more speculative. The speculative nature makes the less-risky rookie option better

Our recruiting team is larger than most clubs too - so you'd think we'd be well placed in years that are more speculative. I expect us to pick up some gems
 
Our recruiting team is larger than most clubs too - so you'd think we'd be well placed in years that are more speculative. I expect us to pick up some gems
There’s definitely a lot of trust in our recruiting team for me. With late picks over the last 4 years we’ve gotten Ryan, Cox, Schultz, Switta, Duman, Frederick, Crowden. They’re all still young and could develop into serviceable footballers (I’m quite bullish on Crowden, at his best this year he was great and Switta last year added a lot of zip and tackling pressure to our forward line) or in the cases of Ryan and Cox, elite footballers.

Look at the players we’ve taken earlier than expected in the past as well; Everyone thought we’d take LDU in 2017 and we grabbed Andy instead. Darcy was taken at 38 which was considered the very earliest of his draft range from memory

We’ve definitely had some busts (O’Reilly, North, Jones, Pina) but for the most part we’ve done incredibly well in recent times.

Hopefully this year they spring a few surprises that we look back on as great picks
 
Listening to sumich yesterday confirmed for me why he was never employed as a senior coach- he’s an absolute goose...
He lost me when he suggested we trade down to get DGB or Chapman - a position we have surplus numbers in.
A number of other things he said left me shaking my head but most of all, he struggles with basic communication skills - to call a hard working, emotionally invested 18yr kid a ‘sook’ on radio is case in point.


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He's just cranky because his mwum made him eat a lot of thwings he didn't want to!
 
EAGLES PONDER LATE DRAFT LIFELINES

West Coast is considering handing Cedric Cox and Alec Waterman AFL lifelines at the upcoming drafts.

Cox was one of several Brisbane players delisted in late November — one month after he requested a trade back home to Western Australia for family reasons after playing just five AFL games in four seasons.

[PLAYERCARD]Cedric Cox[/PLAYERCARD] was drafted by the Lions in 2016. Picture: Tony McDonough
Cedric Cox was drafted by the Lions in 2016. Picture: Tony McDonoughSource: AAP
While the club announced it was committed to picking up fellow delistings Grant Birchall, Connor Ballenden and Rhys Mathieson as rookies, Cox was simply cut from the list, along with Mitch Hinge who days later joined Adelaide as a delisted free agent.

But 7 News Perth journalist Ryan Daniels on Friday night reported Cox remained “in the mix” for a rookie spot at the Eagles.

“No guarantees with list squeeze, but more likely than unlikely at this stage,” Daniels wrote on Twitter.

Several clubs, including WA-based Fremantle, have been keeping an eye this season on Waterman, who’s considered the best mature-age state league prospect.

A second crack at an AFL career looms for Waterman, the son of dual premiership Eagle Chris Waterman, spent two seasons on West Coast’s list, after his first stint with the Eagles was ruined by illness.

Alec Waterman had an awesome WAFL season for Claremont. Picture: Paul Kane
Alec Waterman had an awesome WAFL season for Claremont. Picture: Paul KaneSource: Getty Images
But after an outstanding 2020 WAFL campaign, which saw him kick 26.13 from 10 games, lead the league for average score involvements (6.1) and win Claremont’s best and fairest award, The Age reported West Coast could “take another punt” on Waterman.

West Coast’s first national draft selection is Pick 62. Should Waterman or Cox be overlooked at that selection, the Eagles could draft either of them as rookies via Thursday’s rookie draft or the pre-season supplemental selection period.
 
Has he shown enough to be picked up this year?

Hes not eligible til next year. I watched him play wafl this year, he was thrust into the Peel seniors for a few games cos they were so depleted with numbers with no Freo players, he looked a bit overawed and didn't do much but that could be because:

1. He was absolutely tiny compared to the senior wafl players, and
2. Peel were getting absolutely pumped every single game and he was pretty much exclusively being used a small forward.

Overall it was a bit too hard to tell, his form this year should give us some indication.
 
There’s definitely a lot of trust in our recruiting team for me. With late picks over the last 4 years we’ve gotten Ryan, Cox, Schultz, Switta, Duman, Frederick, Crowden. They’re all still young and could develop into serviceable footballers (I’m quite bullish on Crowden, at his best this year he was great and Switta last year added a lot of zip and tackling pressure to our forward line) or in the cases of Ryan and Cox, elite footballers.

Look at the players we’ve taken earlier than expected in the past as well; Everyone thought we’d take LDU in 2017 and we grabbed Andy instead. Darcy was taken at 38 which was considered the very earliest of his draft range from memory

We’ve definitely had some busts (O’Reilly, North, Jones, Pina) but for the most part we’ve done incredibly well in recent times.

Hopefully this year they spring a few surprises that we look back on as great picks
you make a great point.
Good article in today's West about Nathan O'Driscoll and his sister who plays for Freo AFWL team.

Both mad keen Freo fans. I am sold - sign Nathan up!

Sorry no link - read the paper at Dome. ( Yes - I like Dome )
Got a feeling he will be taken before our pick.
 

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Good article in today's West about Nathan O'Driscoll and his sister who plays for Freo AFWL team.

Both mad keen Freo fans. I am sold - sign Nathan up!

Sorry no link - read the paper at Dome. ( Yes - I like Dome )
I’ve posted it in young talent time thread.
 
There’s definitely a lot of trust in our recruiting team for me. With late picks over the last 4 years we’ve gotten Ryan, Cox, Schultz, Switta, Duman, Frederick, Crowden. They’re all still young and could develop into serviceable footballers (I’m quite bullish on Crowden, at his best this year he was great and Switta last year added a lot of zip and tackling pressure to our forward line) or in the cases of Ryan and Cox, elite footballers.

Look at the players we’ve taken earlier than expected in the past as well; Everyone thought we’d take LDU in 2017 and we grabbed Andy instead. Darcy was taken at 38 which was considered the very earliest of his draft range from memory

We’ve definitely had some busts (O’Reilly, North, Jones, Pina) but for the most part we’ve done incredibly well in recent times.

Hopefully this year they spring a few surprises that we look back on as great picks
Initially was thinking just have a main list of 36 and then don’t rookie draft any players. Then have 2 rookie spots and then invite 10 players to do a preseason.

Maybe, we should give our recruiters another shot at a late pick.
 
Initially was thinking just have a main list of 36 and then don’t rookie draft any players. Then have 2 rookie spots and then invite 10 players to do a preseason.

Maybe, we should give our recruiters another shot at a late pick.

If someone that we rate high enough drops and is available then we will, I’m thinking Neale, Durdin or Callow. Maybe even Pat Walker or Lane?
 
Honestly if we are looking for someone in the foward line Reef MCINNES looks our best pick. He's tall at 193 cm, has strength, and his ceiling and speed is rated as elite.
 

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Good article in today's West about Nathan O'Driscoll and his sister who plays for Freo AFWL team.

Both mad keen Freo fans. I am sold - sign Nathan up!

Sorry no link - read the paper at Dome. ( Yes - I like Dome )

Only Docker, in an Eagles family.
Poor bastard, on that alone we should draft him for the emotional abuse the poor kid has had to endure
 
EAGLES PONDER LATE DRAFT LIFELINES

West Coast is considering handing Cedric Cox and Alec Waterman AFL lifelines at the upcoming drafts.

Cox was one of several Brisbane players delisted in late November — one month after he requested a trade back home to Western Australia for family reasons after playing just five AFL games in four seasons.

[PLAYERCARD]Cedric Cox[/PLAYERCARD] was drafted by the Lions in 2016. Picture: Tony McDonough
Cedric Cox was drafted by the Lions in 2016. Picture: Tony McDonoughSource: AAP
While the club announced it was committed to picking up fellow delistings Grant Birchall, Connor Ballenden and Rhys Mathieson as rookies, Cox was simply cut from the list, along with Mitch Hinge who days later joined Adelaide as a delisted free agent.

But 7 News Perth journalist Ryan Daniels on Friday night reported Cox remained “in the mix” for a rookie spot at the Eagles.

“No guarantees with list squeeze, but more likely than unlikely at this stage,” Daniels wrote on Twitter.

Several clubs, including WA-based Fremantle, have been keeping an eye this season on Waterman, who’s considered the best mature-age state league prospect.

A second crack at an AFL career looms for Waterman, the son of dual premiership Eagle Chris Waterman, spent two seasons on West Coast’s list, after his first stint with the Eagles was ruined by illness.

Alec Waterman had an awesome WAFL season for Claremont. Picture: Paul Kane
Alec Waterman had an awesome WAFL season for Claremont. Picture: Paul KaneSource: Getty Images
But after an outstanding 2020 WAFL campaign, which saw him kick 26.13 from 10 games, lead the league for average score involvements (6.1) and win Claremont’s best and fairest award, The Age reported West Coast could “take another punt” on Waterman.

West Coast’s first national draft selection is Pick 62. Should Waterman or Cox be overlooked at that selection, the Eagles could draft either of them as rookies via Thursday’s rookie draft or the pre-season supplemental selection period.
Crickey...he kicks just like his old man. If he's even remotely close to his old man's kicking, he's worth a punt. That left peg was deadly.
 
Takes one to know one. Sumich is the biggest sook of them all.

Very true. I had a good source around the time of Judd leaving that told me he was going to Carlton six months before the end of the season, and even then the media ran with Collingwood for ages. He also said that Sumich (who Judd thought was a terrible coach) went berserk and stormed Judd's house, pounding on his door and abusing him for leaving.
 

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