Analysis THE "WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN SPP" TEARS THREAD

[Dark Sharks]

Yeah it is guess work campaigner, that’s why I pointed it out.

You're just guessing. You got no idea what you're on about ya stupid kent.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

And yet we constantly still laugh at Cockburn for selecting Pitt instead of Darling.

Can't have it both ways bruv.

Key difference is Venables was part of a premiership

 

[KERRPOW]

I think we can say now, with what we know Venables over SPP was the wrong choice. It happens.

Despite Venners being a premiership player. SPP arguably would've contributed more in that season, certainly in that game, and beyond.


No shame in saying it. English would've been better than both IMO, and NONE of us wanted that dopey kent at the time.

English has the girly squib mcdougirls about him. You see the fear in his eyes

 

[Eaglemaniac]

I hope we get SPP and SPS so we can get a sponsorship from SPC and play the ads on SBS..

 

[Dylan82]

So does this thread get locked if S.Powell-Pepper is traded into the club?

Or does it just get renamed to The "WE SHOULD HAVE SELECTED SPP" TEARS THREAD ?

 

[Ok Boomer]

This thread was always going to come full circle one way or another.

 

[BK Eaglesfan]

Interesting one looking back at that draft was Shai Bolton

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Shai Bolton

Age

27

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

went at #29. I think the general consensus that year was he was rated somewhere between 25 - 35 - shame he didn't last till our Pick 37.

The other funny one talking about the prospect of Tim English using our first pick once SPS was gone and rucks in general - this was a comment in a draft article at the time "The Eagles have also recently caught up with ruckman Sean Darcy

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Sean Darcy

Age

27

Ht

203cm

Wt

111kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

32.0

5star

who could be a project player later in the draft." Went at 38 directly after we took Rotham, now a B&F winner.

Bloody North got Zurhaar as a rookie from East Fremantle too. Not a bad get.

 

[FKASC]

Interesting one looking back at that draft was Shai Bolton went at #29. I think the general consensus that year was he was rated somewhere between 25 - 35 - shame he didn't last till our Pick 37.

The other funny one talking about the prospect of Tim English using our first pick once SPS was gone and rucks in general - this was a comment in a draft article at the time "The Eagles have also recently caught up with ruckman Sean Darcy who could be a project player later in the draft." Went at 38 directly after we took Rotham, now a B&F winner.

Bloody North got Zurhaar as a rookie from East Fremantle too. Not a bad get.

I think Bolton got massive hype in the media very close to the draft and was projected as going even higher than 29. He was linked to our first pick for a short time IIRC. Richmond got a bargain in the end.

 

[WCE_phil]

I think Bolton got massive hype in the media very close to the draft and was projected as going even higher than 29. He was linked to our first pick for a short time IIRC. Richmond got a bargain in the end.

Bolton was always expected to be a second round pick. He had and has shown much higher talent levels than the pick he was acquired for but there were application and off field issues which were part of why he was expected to go later. When he was drafted at 29 I thought it was early even though I highly rated him. Richmond did get a bargain but there's no guarantee that he'd be in the system still if he stayed in WA or particularly at WCE who likely wouldnt have swept a fair few things under the carpet.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

I wish that we would just draft the player that we want without subscribing to idea of drafting a player too early.
Bolton was never gonna be taken until the 20's due to his supposed draft range.
The same reason why we missed out on TK in the 2017 draft.
Also due to thinking that you need to draft a slider that's good too pass up, even if you don't need them.
We could've missed out on Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

27

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

as well if someone took before him before pick 21.
It could've been:
13 Allen
21 Kelly
26 Ryan
If Geelong had drafted Ryan after missing out on Kelly, we would've had Bayley Fritsch

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Bayley Fritsch

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.7

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.0

2star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

available at our pick. Sam Taylor

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Sam Taylor

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

as well.

 

[FKASC]

Bolton was always expected to be a second round pick. He had and has shown much higher talent levels than the pick he was acquired for but there were application and off field issues which were part of why he was expected to go later. When he was drafted at 29 I thought it was early even though I highly rated him. Richmond did get a bargain but there's no guarantee that he'd be in the system still if he stayed in WA or particularly at WCE who likely wouldnt have swept a fair few things under the carpet.

I’m talking late in the year closer to the draft. After he dominated that all star u/19 game or whatever it was.

Bolton is likely to feature in the first or second round in this year's AFL draft

Knightmare's AFL draft wrap: Shai Bolton a first-round bolter?

The draft is edging closer, and ESPN AFL draft expert Christopher Doerre - aka Knightmare - casts his eye over the players who have caught the eye of recruiters.

www.espn.com.au

 

[boondy]

Phew we dodged a bullet
"We will see how committed Sam is by the way he comes back for the pre-season. He needs to come back in a fitter state than what he has previously. If he does that, he has every chance to play in our midfield."

 

[shooshka]

Phew we dodged a bullet
"We will see how committed Sam is by the way he comes back for the pre-season. He needs to come back in a fitter state than what he has previously. If he does that, he has every chance to play in our midfield."

I'm assuming our offer to port (and probably financially to SPP) reflected the above.

Hence why they both wanted no part in it.

It's pretty poor from Port to say how highly valued he is, not letting him go unless there is an attractive offer etc, then 3 days later come out in the media and say he needs to work harder and hasn't been coming back in shape for a number of years.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Sounds like he’d fit right in at our club. Our players got a big whack by Niz on abc a month ago.

 

[Chris_6678]

Sounds like he’d fit right in at our club. Our players got a big whack by Niz on abc a month ago.

What did Nizzy say?

 

[Biggie]

What did Nizzy say?

Whack

 

[Goldfish]

Whack

What did Embley say?

 

[flamingEMBERS]

What did Nizzy say?

Think it was AFL grand final morning or the week before. Pretty much said our players didn’t turn up to preseason in shape.

 

[Chris_6678]

Think it was AFL grand final morning or the week before. Pretty much said our players didn’t turn up to preseason in shape.

Nice hope they heard it.

 

[free2play]

I wish that we would just draft the player that we want without subscribing to idea of drafting a player too early.
Bolton was never gonna be taken until the 20's due to his supposed draft range.
The same reason why we missed out on TK in the 2017 draft.
Also due to thinking that you need to draft a slider that's good too pass up, even if you don't need them.
We could've missed out on Oscar Allen as well if someone took before him before pick 21.
It could've been:
13 Allen
21 Kelly
26 Ryan
If Geelong had drafted Ryan after missing out on Kelly, we would've had Bayley Fritsch available at our pick. Sam Taylor as well.

Derrick Weedon says hello

Bolton was a 177cm player who was largely playing forward in colts. It we had picked him with our first draft pick you could have heard the screams for days

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Think it was AFL grand final morning or the week before. Pretty much said our players didn’t turn up to preseason in shape.

"When we made Gov the fat campaigner vice captain (and acting captain on occasion) we didn't expect players would actually try to emulate the fitness standards of someone we see as a leader of this football club"

 

[The Passenger]

We all know Gov has never been the fittest bloke but there was no drama's with him always looking like a country or suburban footballer, provided he kept intercept marking like a machine on the field.

But you'd think that sort of knock about attitude would put a big red line through your name in terms of being considered for leadership roles at AFL level.