Serous question, is this kid the best SA draft talent ever ? , I’ve never seen anything quite like what been offered, your offer was an outstanding one for NM. Who does he play like current gen players , Dangerfield ?
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Strategy Jason Horne-Francis: North trade him to Port for massive unders
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I reckon Gibbs was rated higher when he was drafted. As a 16 year old, he made the senior SANFL players look amateur.
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I think the Hall of Fame for hyped SA kids in the draft contains Gibbs, Cooney, Lukosius and Rankine - and JHF is now well within that company.
And neither of those you'd swap more than a first rounder for. Gibbs and Cooney had pretty disappointing careers at basket case clubs, and Luko and Rankine on the same journey (and JFH).
And neither of those you'd swap more than a first rounder for. Gibbs and Cooney had pretty disappointing careers at basket case clubs, and Luko and Rankine on the same journey (and JFH).
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Nathan Buckley wasnt bad.
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Pav was the best 17 yo I remember.
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Is it possible Norf didn’t interview Jason till now simply because they know they aren’t going to trade pick 1? There is no rush… unless Jason does a Smith, that might make them think about an offer.
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Pav got overlooked in his first draft year...
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Ken McGregor must have been a hell of a talent
? Cooney won a Brownlow in an ordinary side. He had a great career IMO.
North should have taken the offer... every year.. the number 1 draft picks are hyped but rarely do they turn into a Dustin Martin or Andrew mcloed.
Would we pay 2 top 5 draft picks for luko? Nope, no way.
That deal is a bad deal imho, putting all your eggs into the Horne basket is just way too much risk. He could have reached his cieling already aka tambling, he could do his knee, he might have some personal issues which is detrimental to his development... etc etc
Just too much risk.
Premierships are built on nailing your draft picks, and afl concessions.
Would we pay 2 top 5 draft picks for luko? Nope, no way.
That deal is a bad deal imho, putting all your eggs into the Horne basket is just way too much risk. He could have reached his cieling already aka tambling, he could do his knee, he might have some personal issues which is detrimental to his development... etc etc
Just too much risk.
Premierships are built on nailing your draft picks, and afl concessions.
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I agree but let’s be real here we’d all be going nuts if we had Horne next year. Tongue in cheek, I blame Tex for having an outrageous season for us losing pick 1, literally won us how many games off his own boot. I’m still betting Horne will be one of the best midfielders in the comp in 3 years.
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1 All Australian and 3 finals wins over a 13 year career.
Didn’t even win a club b&f.
Talking about the number 1 draft pick here. It’s a disappointing return on the hype.
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In fairness to Cooney he did play a lot of his career with bad knees, bone on bone bad.
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No..peter motley was the best of them all and fate had it he never got to showcase his stratospheric talents
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He also was drafted by a club with a bunch of over hyped name players that had born to lose tattood on their arses. If he’d been drafted by any other club that didn’t have such a toxic playing list, he might have lived up to hi potential.
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Some of those Bulldogs players make Wayne Carey look like a paragon of monogamy
Was a shame would have left his mark on the game
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And yet, talk to anyone involved from that era down at SHC and he's the best talent that school has ever produced. And they've produced some pretty good talent.
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Best 18 yo? At 17, presumably Kenny McGregor looked a better bet than Pav! Unfortunately the Crows could only take one 17yo in the 1998 AFL Draft, they made a good choice in Kenny but Pav would have been a great choice.
In AFL times I’d suggest that Ben Hart and Mark Riccuito could be considered to have been ahead of where JHF is now as juniors. Both were zone selections for the Crows, hence didn’t draw any draft hype.
Hart hadn’t long turned 16 when he starred in the 1990 SANFL finals against South as a 16yo. He was All-Australian in his first AFL season as a 17/18 yo.
Roo was much the same a year later, playing for Westies as a 16yo in 1991. He was All-Australian as an 18/19yo in 1994, his second AFL season.
Hyperbole is never in short supply amongst the old boys.
undrafted as a 17 year old, and taken at #4 as an 18 yr old
as his senior career got better, I’m sure did estimations of his junior abilities
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Regarding the North should interview or not I am in the ''should touch base'' early side
I look at it from JHFs point of view - here I am number 1 rated kid and the bottom side - and they were bottom all year - hasnt being in touch to introduce the people who will help me fit into the club - I wonder wat I am getting myself into
North were here in Adelaide Aug 22 - no excuse to not make an appointment - as that was also the weekend they were confirmed bottom and pick 1
I look at it from JHFs point of view - here I am number 1 rated kid and the bottom side - and they were bottom all year - hasnt being in touch to introduce the people who will help me fit into the club - I wonder wat I am getting myself into
North were here in Adelaide Aug 22 - no excuse to not make an appointment - as that was also the weekend they were confirmed bottom and pick 1
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Fair comment, but inaccurate. He was always regarded as their best product, from the moment he pulled on a first 18 guernsey.
The only reason Kenny got taken ahead of him as a 17 yr old was because of his exposed SANFL senior form.
I get that we’d like JHF but I don’t get the whole “should have lost to Hawthorn” idea
Yes we need elite talent but we also need an elite culture and system and players learning to play to their limits. I’m not sure finishing bottom again helps with that.
It’s the basis of the whole “A champion team beats a team of champions” idea
I could be wrong, just my 2c
Yes we need elite talent but we also need an elite culture and system and players learning to play to their limits. I’m not sure finishing bottom again helps with that.
It’s the basis of the whole “A champion team beats a team of champions” idea
I could be wrong, just my 2c
