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Play Nice Scott Morrison 2.0 - How Long? Part 8 - Lose Unit. Game Over, Bulldozer. Cont in Part 9

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Looks like the fear of having journalists question you on live national TV has been added to the symptoms of Covid.


*Mike Moore face. Hmmm....
Now, Clive Plamer’s National Press Club event have just been cancled, but beforehand ABC had announced a suite of fact-checking and editing measures to ensure no misinformation was spread.


Here is Amanda Meade with the details:


The ABC had added multiple layers of moderation to the National Press Club speech by Clive Palmer to ensure misinformation was not broadcast.


The speech was to be delayed by 90 minutes to give time for fact-checking and editing and any changes would have been relayed to viewers, an ABC spokesperson said.


In addition, the press club was going to fact check the speech live and any issues were going to be related to the moderator on stage and addressed on the spot.



The address will be broadcast on a 90-minute delay and assessed beforehand against the ABC’s editorial standards,” a spokesperson said.

Any content inconsistent with the standards may be edited. If edits are made the audience will be informed.

The NPC speech will be followed by analysis from ABC journalists including Political Editor Andrew Probyn.
 
This is very true. The young have been hammered with information about trolls, bots and perverts from the start of their schooling. The problem is more about that instinct to join a side to be a part of a tribe.

Older people have taken far longer to recognise, where they do, the amount of internet misinformation that exists. There is a reason why the bulk of ivermectin supporters, qanon theorists and defenders against a non-existent socialist government are older people with beer bellies at the lower end of educational achievement

I have friends of that vintage who are quite 'intelligent' except for their voting patterns & RW views. :)

We discuss issues a bit. They don't seem to be able to discuss policy much. Just ramble on about ideological clap trap.

Thats because this LNP has no policies.;)

(I think they are pining for the Jonny Howard days hahaha!!)
 
Looks like the fear of having journalists question you on live national TV has been added to the symptoms of Covid.


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Please. Anyone who spends any time on the internet knows full well that trolls and misinformation abound. The younger generations are better educated and have been taught critical thinking as part of that (unfortunately not all of them put that into practice though).

I also think the lack of trust in today's institutions (government, media, religion etc) has made younger generations much more cynical than older generations, and so less likely to swallow what they're told from on high.
Hmm, maybe more cynical, but the one that matters, more skeptical?

All my 50-60 y.o. mates are healthily skeptical. They have life experience, been through a few phases of the ups and downs.

Yes we grew up in the era of traditional media, but we knew the bias of each journal and took that into consideration.

Impossible for anyone now, no matter how internet-savvy they consider themselves to be, to second-guess the powerful algorithms working to curate their version of "reality".

I'm not saying boomers are the fount of all wisdom. I'm saying no generation has the franchise on savvy, and it's a lazy shorthand to portray boomers as being more prone to scare campaigns etc.
 
It's possible that post election the Liberal Party split will become obviously electorally as traditional small l Liberal seats that should be the party's bread and butter split from it as it becomes increasingly radicalised. Morrison can bang on about Albo being the most radical PM since my namesake but the Liberal Party's view for Australia's future is radically different to the one that most of us grew up in, and not for the better.
100% agree.
 
I have friends of that vintage who are quite 'intelligent' except for their voting patterns & RW views. :)

We discuss issues a bit. They don't seem to be able to discuss policy much. Just ramble on about ideological clap trap.

Thats because this LNP has no policies.;)

(I think they are pining for the Jonny Howard days hahaha!!)
of course they want Howard back. He set the whole ****en country up around them and bought a coalition victory for the next two decades. While I bemoan a lot of the backward thinking of the boomers on here there’s a decent amount you can converse with without having to listen to the condescending talked down to back in my day bs.
 
Hmm, maybe more cynical, but the one that matters, more skeptical?

All my 50-60 y.o. mates are healthily skeptical. They have life experience, been through a few phases of the ups and downs.

Yes we grew up in the era of traditional media, but we knew the bias of each journal and took that into consideration.

Impossible for anyone now, no matter how internet-savvy they consider themselves to be, to second-guess the powerful algorithms working to curate their version of "reality".

I'm not saying boomers are the fount of all wisdom. I'm saying no generation has the franchise on savvy, and it's a lazy shorthand to portray boomers as being more prone to scare campaigns etc.

Perhaps it's a combination of age and education.
 
I haven't put Old Mate on Ignore because he/she/it says nothing obnoxious, just mind-bogglingly shallow. I'd be interested to hear from Hawks fans what they think of Xtreme's footy insights.
He/she is a troll. Used to go on the MB before I gave up on the game and only have an interest in my side now and this person is like this everywhere. It’s always been shockingly bad trolly with no inference of intelligence.
 
I'm not saying boomers are the fount of all wisdom. I'm saying no generation has the franchise on savvy, and it's a lazy shorthand to portray boomers as being more prone to scare campaigns etc.
I'd say each generation is just as prone to scare campaigns, just each generation is different in which scare tactic works on them.

Generally speaking racist/homophobic/transphobic scare tactics don't work as well on younger generations but scare campaigns for loss of masculinity works well in parts of the younger generation.
 
Hmm, maybe more cynical, but the one that matters, more skeptical?

All my 50-60 y.o. mates are healthily skeptical. They have life experience, been through a few phases of the ups and downs.

Yes we grew up in the era of traditional media, but we knew the bias of each journal and took that into consideration.

Impossible for anyone now, no matter how internet-savvy they consider themselves to be, to second-guess the powerful algorithms working to curate their version of "reality".

I'm not saying boomers are the fount of all wisdom. I'm saying no generation has the franchise on savvy, and it's a lazy shorthand to portray boomers as being more prone to scare campaigns etc.

Younger people are much better at understanding how social media and algorithms impact what they see though, older people didn't grow up with it so don't realise that even when they seek out information, they're only seeing what's likely to appeal to their existing positions.
 

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I'd say each generation is just as prone to scare campaigns, just each generation is different in which scare tactic works on them.

Generally speaking racist/homophobic/transphobic scare tactics don't work as well on younger generations but scare campaigns for loss of masculinity works well in parts of the younger generation.
You also have to remember scare campaigns work wonders with the boomers because they have a lot to lose. Most young generations haven’t come close to obtaining wealth so they have sfa to say goodbye to. Perfect example franking credits. I don’t blame boomers for voting lnp. Howard basically set the whole country up around them.
 
And the usual suspects called it a “laser attack”, as though it were some form of militaristic weapon, rather than a harmless light.





laser pointer, a hand-held good, commonly known as a laser pointer, designed or adapted to emit a laser beam with an accessible emission level of greater than 1mW.

I mean, it's not some kind of 'harmless' thing like you're trying to pretend it is. It's pretty well established they can be categorised as weapons and are a danger to aircraft.
 
And the usual suspects called it a “laser attack”, as though it were some form of militaristic weapon, rather than a harmless light.
And the fact still remains that if the Chinese shot that plane out of the sky there is **** all we could do about it.

I seriously doubt we would have even heard about it if that happened. On water matters or some bullshit.
 
And the usual suspects called it a “laser attack”, as though it were some form of militaristic weapon, rather than a harmless light.
And the hypocrisy of calling the South China Sea, International Waters, and calling International Waters near Australia as our Australia Waters
 

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You also have to remember scare campaigns work wonders with the boomers because they have a lot to lose. Most young generations haven’t come close to obtaining wealth so they have sfa to say goodbye to. Perfect example franking credits. I don’t blame boomers for voting lnp. Howard basically set the whole country up around them.
Agree, boomers have a lot of assests to lose but my generation has just as much if not more to lose on a grander scale. Rising wage inequality, climate change, cost of living, cuts to healthcare and education pushing towards privatisation of both sectors and those are just the big ones.

The best scare campaign the right have and this seems to work wonders in every country and transcends generations is that the left will raise taxes in some form or another.
 
Agree, boomers have a lot of assests to lose but my generation has just as much if not more to lose on a grander scale. Rising wage inequality, climate change, cost of living, cuts to healthcare and education pushing towards privatisation of both sectors and those are just the big ones.

The best scare campaign the right have and this seems to work wonders in every country and transcends generations is that the left will raise taxes in some form or another.

People are afraid of change, if they're in a position of comfort.

People who own a home and already have an education have very little personal investment in seeing the status quo change, despite it almost certainly being beneficial to them.

It's a bit like how Trump's base of supporters was that midwest working class cohort who would likely most benefit from things like government funded healthcare. The US system has done an incredible job of convincing people that the Government is their enemy, and the ultra-wealthy are aspirational idols that they could become themselves if only the pesky Government would get out of their way.
 
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