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15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney (GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis
7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon, Brendon Lade, Adem Yze interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9
 
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Here_we_come said:
I’m not arguing that Hird should be coach. In fact, I don’t think he should come back.

But let’s not underplay Pyke’s questionable ethics as a “bad decision”. He oversaw a program that saw his players abused psychologically - to the point where their childhood traumas were invited in confidence only to be used against them publicly. He then endorsed a cover story in an attempt to cover it up and only apologised 4 years later when the media heat was on. It’s an utter disgrace in my mind and he shouldn’t be let through the door.
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They did not know exactly what they where going to get at the camp , players or coaches. The cover up was done by the club and had legal implications so he could not talk. The coach was not telling the players not to talk. Finally despite players speaking out over the camp none of them have had a bad word to say about him.
He did not endorse the actions at the camp. They would never have gone if they knew what was coming. On top of all that do you think the Sydney players work with him if he is someone with questionable ethics.
It was a mistake to go to the camp but it was one that blind sided them all , players and coaches none of who knew the exact program. A bit of context with all the facts is needed. It was very poor the way the players where treated but at no stage did Pyke actually set out to humiliate parts of the playing group and I think you will find it was the captain who was pressuring the players not to talk about it.
 

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dank420_ said:
I don't think it's the same. Rutten essentially got the gig through the back door in what may have been a way to smooth over the botched Worsfold extension.
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But they did actually look at a few young coaches at the time it was not like they just landed on Truck and not looked at anyone else. They just did not run an open process which was an obvious mistake. The issue ended up being the fact that the list dynamic changed massively before he actually started and it ended up being rebuild rather than push for winning finals.
 
I doubt he is looking to coach right now but I still think Leon Cameron is a good coach. There is all the crap about him having the keys to the Ferrari but a lot of the time the Ferrari had a couple of cylinders missing. He still managed to win finals four years in a row despite a big injury list and missing key players in numbers. On top of that there was the revolving door of decent / good players leaving and having to bring in a lot of young blokes every year and also having to deal with cap pressure due to paying overs to hold back raids from other clubs. Yes had a great number of quality young players but never had the chance to put them all on the park at the same time .
2016 - 2019 one GF , two PF , 6 final wins and 4 losses.
 
ant555 said:
I doubt he is looking to coach right now but I still think Leon Cameron is a good coach. There is all the crap about him having the keys to the Ferrari but a lot of the time the Ferrari had a couple of cylinders missing. He still managed to win finals four years in a row despite a big injury list and missing key players in numbers. On top of that there was the revolving door of decent / good players leaving and having to bring in a lot of young blokes every year and also having to deal with cap pressure due to paying overs to hold back raids from other clubs. Yes had a great number of quality young players but never had the chance to put them all on the park at the same time .
2016 - 2019 one GF , two PF , 6 final wins and 4 losses.
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his been decent but I just feel he would bring same sort of ‘chilled’ vibe Rutten had.

I want a bit of toughness/doesn’t accept mediocrity from our next coach
 
ant555 said:
I doubt he is looking to coach right now but I still think Leon Cameron is a good coach. There is all the crap about him having the keys to the Ferrari but a lot of the time the Ferrari had a couple of cylinders missing. He still managed to win finals four years in a row despite a big injury list and missing key players in numbers. On top of that there was the revolving door of decent / good players leaving and having to bring in a lot of young blokes every year and also having to deal with cap pressure due to paying overs to hold back raids from other clubs. Yes had a great number of quality young players but never had the chance to put them all on the park at the same time .
2016 - 2019 one GF , two PF , 6 final wins and 4 losses.
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Wonder if Leon would be up for a senior assistant role to someone like Yze as a less demanding role.
 
Howard Moon said:
I suggest we stack the assistants behind a puppet leader

something like

Erich Von Manstien - defensive coach
Erwin Rommel - offence and ball movement
Adrian Dodoro - List managament
Hermann Goering - development coach
Josef Goebbels - social media - wallpaper wednesdays
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That is a terrible plan. Dreamtime at the G and the ANZAC Day game would suddenly become propaganda tools...

Oh hold on...
 
ant555 said:
They did not know exactly what they where going to get at the camp , players or coaches. The cover up was done by the club and had legal implications so he could not talk. The coach was not telling the players not to talk. Finally despite players speaking out over the camp none of them have had a bad word to say about him.
He did not endorse the actions at the camp. They would never have gone if they knew what was coming. On top of all that do you think the Sydney players work with him if he is someone with questionable ethics.
It was a mistake to go to the camp but it was one that blind sided them all , players and coaches none of who knew the exact program. A bit of context with all the facts is needed. It was very poor the way the players where treated but at no stage did Pyke actually set out to humiliate parts of the playing group and I think you will find it was the captain who was pressuring the players not to talk about it.
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Doesn't change the fact that Pyke was coach of a club that had failures in structures and accountability that resulted in a campacologically experimental environment never adequately controlled or challenged or documented
 
It's comical but also sad , seeing so many in the media saying we need new ideas and a non-Essendon guy to coach but nearly everyone knows it's going to be Hird.

It was interesting revisiting (with Lyon, Brown, Roo) how Dunstall was tasked with hiring a new coach for them and went with Clarko (obviously a non-Hawthorn guy) and he had to clear out a lot of friends from various roles during that process. I wonder if an ex-Bomber could do that? or just hire Dunstall for us and hope he wouldn't deliberately sabotage his old rivals in the process!
 
Lads2023 said:
his been decent but I just feel he would bring same sort of ‘chilled’ vibe Rutten had.

I want a bit of toughness/doesn’t accept mediocrity from our next coach
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I think he’s actually pretty intense.
 

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Hayden Skipworth?
 
 
ant555 said:
They did not know exactly what they where going to get at the camp , players or coaches. The cover up was done by the club and had legal implications so he could not talk. The coach was not telling the players not to talk. Finally despite players speaking out over the camp none of them have had a bad word to say about him.
He did not endorse the actions at the camp. They would never have gone if they knew what was coming. On top of all that do you think the Sydney players work with him if he is someone with questionable ethics.
It was a mistake to go to the camp but it was one that blind sided them all , players and coaches none of who knew the exact program. A bit of context with all the facts is needed. It was very poor the way the players where treated but at no stage did Pyke actually set out to humiliate parts of the playing group and I think you will find it was the captain who was pressuring the players not to talk about it.
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I agree he would never set out to treat players like that. Clearly no coach would unless they were a sociopath.

But it doesn't change the fact that he is guilty of failing to put a stop to something that is clearly wrong and destructive to the playing group. That should have been extremely obvious as it was happening. Even Jenkins is on record saying he asked Pyke and Younie at the time why they were being subjected to such demeaning treatment, which should have been a massive red flag that something was amiss.

At the very least, Pyke comes with quite a lot of negative baggage due to this which I believe we should avoid.
 

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jmoo wan said:
Doesn't change the fact that Pyke was coach of a club that had failures in structures and accountability that resulted in a campacologically experimental environment never adequately controlled or challenged or documented
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And he paid the price. Not sure it was experimental. From what I know the camp has been used by other sporting clubs and businesses . I think those sort of camps are total rubbish but I am not going to hang a bloke for getting taken for a bit of a ride . Even more so when the players involved are not hanging him out to dry.
 
ant555 said:
I doubt he is looking to coach right now but I still think Leon Cameron is a good coach. There is all the crap about him having the keys to the Ferrari but a lot of the time the Ferrari had a couple of cylinders missing. He still managed to win finals four years in a row despite a big injury list and missing key players in numbers. On top of that there was the revolving door of decent / good players leaving and having to bring in a lot of young blokes every year and also having to deal with cap pressure due to paying overs to hold back raids from other clubs. Yes had a great number of quality young players but never had the chance to put them all on the park at the same time .
2016 - 2019 one GF , two PF , 6 final wins and 4 losses.
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What was his excuse this year? It seems like he’d checked out and exhausted all avenues to success so threw in the towel with some bizarre coaching moves and playing players out of position which ultimately ended his tenure. Appears burnt out to me.
 
ant555 said:
And he paid the price. Not sure it was experimental. From what I know the camp has been used by other sporting clubs and businesses . I think those sort of camps are total rubbish but I am not going to hang a bloke for getting taken for a bit of a ride . Even more so when the players involved are not hanging him out to dry.
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mate, i used the word “campacologically”
 
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