Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

42

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

48

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

39

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

45

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

49

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

48

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

43

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

48

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

48

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

49

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[eth-dog]

What about Hardwick??
Wins his 4th Premiership, gets bored,
comes to Essington.

Will be tough when they lose game 1

 

[CBombers17]

The process will likely derail the Lyon appointment not aid it.

There are many boxes Lyon wouldn't tick, like being new age, sensitive and ineffective. We don't want him to tick those boxes.

The point of a detailed process is to sort through unknowns.

Someone mentioned it elsewhere. You don't need a 'process' to recruit Lyon. You ask him to come in for a chat and ask him about the list and then why you think you need him. You ask him about how he thinks the game has changed and how his tactics and strategy have evolved. You might have to ask about what Bell meant when he said they were taking back control of the footy dep.

2 different lists, 2 top finishes, 3 gfs and a rebuild Freo is benefiting from. You don't insult him or anyone with his record by asking him to apply for a job.

So the standard Essendon coach interview then.

 

[Lore]

 

[CBombers17]

Must have been a huge cleanout to want a new boot studder too

 

[BrunoV]

So the standard Essendon coach interview then.

If you want to look at it that way, yes.

Head hunting Lyon is a very different thing to head hunting Rutten, assuming we legitimately thought he was best man for the job - and there is quite a bit to suggest that was not the motivation to sign him.

 

[CBombers17]

If you want to look at it that way, yes.

Head hunting Lyon is a very different thing to head hunting Rutten, assuming we legitimately thought he was best man for the job - and there is quite a bit to suggest that was not the motivation to sign him.

I'd be happy enough with Ross for 2 or 3 years because I think his appointment would leave no room for the players to continue to avoid the defensive work - it's something weve needed to address for a very long time. If he had them going by year 3 then we stay the course.

 

[citizen-erased]

Must have been a huge cleanout to want a new boot studder too

back when we did things properly.

or didn't, i have no idea on our history pre'90.
i just use the flags to mock other teams...except carlton...

 

[CBombers17]

back when we did things properly.

or didn't, i have no idea on our history pre'90.
i just use the flags to mock other teams...except carlton...

I think there was a time where what we do now was the way it was done by everyone (local club mentality and decisions making). The problem is the whole industry went and turned pro and the only thing we kept up with was marketing.

 

[justlookingaround]

Will be tough when they lose game 1

Lions are the never ending pretenders - tipping Tiges by 40

 

[eth-dog]

Lions are the never ending pretenders - tipping Tiges by 40

29-4 at the Gabba since the start of 2020

 

[bombreys]

My concern with Ross Lyon is he has a history/reputation of sacrificing the development of younger players to focus on his senior core of players to drive for success. There were stories at St Kilda and Fremantle that if you weren't in the top 25 players on the list, Lyon basically ignored them.

We have a super young list and we need someone that will commit to the draft, blooding younger players and focusing on development. If Lyon is happy to commit to that, fine, but I dont think he would.

To be fair, that was also Rutten’s biggest weakness. I think it’s most coaches.

If we go through the proper process, we should give our next coach a 5 year deal and let him know we want to focus on the draft/kids and don’t expect meaningful movement up the ladder until year 3 or 4.

 

[justlookingaround]

29-4 at the Gabba since the start of 2020

1-3 in finals there though

 

[eth-dog]

1-3 in finals there though

1-2 actually but still. There's a clear cut top 6 this year and Brissy will get the job done.

 

[Doss]

1-2 actually but still. There's a clear cut top 6 this year and Brissy will get the job done.

It’s 1-4 if you include 2019, which makes more sense as that is when their finals run started.

0-2 in 2019, 1-1 in 2020 and 0-1 last year.

Yes obviously they do have a bloody strong home record. But the finals failures are undoubtedly a big blot which they’d want to remedy in a hurry.

 

[Run and carry]

I want Lyon just for the post game press conferences. Always highly entertaining.

 

[Burzum]

I want Lyon just for the post game press conferences. Always highly entertaining.

Just not the post-game functions when women are present.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

boot studder.

so thats how dodo got his start

 

[Howard Moon]

boot studder.

last seen protesting the moulded sole revolution

 

[Schnitzengruben]

“100 per cent - he’s a top liner, he’s a star,” King said on SEN Breakfast.

“Everyone says he hasn’t won a flag, how many Grand Finals do you need to go to to endorse your CV?

“He’s challenged players to get the best out of themselves, he sets really hard standards that he then hands onto the leadership group to maintain.

“He basically allows the leaders to lead and then puts this game plan, sure, it’s defensive, it always has been, but when St Kilda had the capabilities to be a high scoring team, if you look at those teams of 2008, 2009, 2010, they were scoring heavily right throughout those seasons.

“I think one of those years they were averaging 100 points right up until the last fortnight of the home and away season. He can score, if he wants to set the game up to score, he will do that.

“I don’t understand the negativity around Ross, and I think Essendon needs Ross right now more than any other person.”

 

[Petrify]

The negativity stems from his treatment of women.

 

[DERO]

Getting a Lyon as coach and Goddard as an assistant vibe.

 

[BrunoV]

The negativity stems from his treatment of women.

Is there something more than that one comment?

 

[jmoo wan]

"He’s challenged players to get the best out of themselves, he sets really hard standards that he then hands onto the leadership group to maintain.

“He basically allows the leaders to lead and then puts this game plan..."

well this will be a massive issue.

 

[MiguelM]

"He’s challenged players to get the best out of themselves, he sets really hard standards that he then hands onto the leadership group to maintain.

“He basically allows the leaders to lead and then puts this game plan..."

well this will be a massive issue.

Yep, we had better get an on field leader then.

 

[faible]

The negativity stems from his treatment of women.

Most of the negativity about Lyon isn't based around this, which IMO it's the only legitimate concern.

People are complaining his game style is too defensive, whilst also complaining how shit Essendon have been at defending has a certain irony to it.

What Lyon brings is exactly what our playing group has been failing at doing. If any coach could make our team of front-running flankers play hard-working defensively strong football, it's Ross Lyon. If anyone is going to convince Parish to become close to the best two-way midfielder in the game (which, IMO, he has scope to be alongside Touk Miller and Andrew Brayshaw) it would be Ross Lyon.

I'd be interested how our midfield would be setup under Ross when he's pretty much only got offensive players to work with; Draper, Shiel, Parish, Merrett, Perkins, Stringer are all offensively biased players, offence comes naturally to these guys so it would be a huge transformation for them to play Ross Lyon football.

In an ideal world we appoint Lyon as coach for 3 years, with Yze or Giansiracusa to follow. Ross can set the standards and foundations the same way he did at Fremantle, Yze or Giansiracusa take that and build it in to a Premiership side.