Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[catempire]

But I don’t have a better solution, which I guess was your original point.

Yes my main point is it’s very hard to sustain the dual objectives of free agency and equalisation. It’s a compromise.

 

[00VicWard001]

If Cooney and Dermott had a baby…….

It would be Brian Lake

 

[Finknottle]

Respectfully disagree. We have a stack of depth in our backline with 14 players in our squad to fill the six backline roles. Another tall would be nice but we have options with Blicavs able to go back.

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With such a stack of quality defenders we sure did look b-grade in 2023. Interesting that you see Oliver Henry as a defender.

 

[Matthew Jelley]

Wouldn't mind a look at Lochie OBrien as a cheap pickup

 

[jim boy]

Would you preserve the compensation being tied to finishing position of the losing club?

Just get rid of compensation.
I dont see why clubs like Geelong should get penalised for another team being a) crap and b) the other team rorting the system.
If we had no compensation, the McKay deal may well been Essendon give North their first pick and Essendon get McKay - fair deal, and probably would have happened. Kangas dont get 'rewarded' for losing a player and Geelong doesn't get shifted back (will have real implications for the Rat deal) for something it was not involved in.
But say Ess and North dont get a deal done, well either Essendon have to pay overs to nab their man, and North get salary cap to use on another player, or McKay goes to the defat, either way, North still have extra $$$ to poach someone else.
Compensation rewards poor management, stuffs up the draft and IMHO actually hampers trade and player movement

 

[BORIS332]

With such a stack of quality defenders we sure did look b-grade in 2023. Interesting that you see Oliver Henry as a defender.

That was obviously an oversight.

We haven't lost any personnel from our 2022 premiership defence (SDK, J.Henry, Kolo, Stewart, Bews, Tuohy) so why is it so dire all of a sudden?

 

[Rubberducky]

That was obviously an oversight.

We haven't lost any personnel from our 2022 premiership defence (SDK, J.Henry, Kolo, Stewart, Bews, Tuohy) so why is it so dire all of a sudden?

It's not dire, it looked ordinary at times this year, but we had injuries and no continuity at all down back. Kolo is a whipping boy, J Henry has an injured foot, that's enough for most to claim the sky is falling.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

With such a stack of quality defenders we sure did look b-grade in 2023. Interesting that you see Oliver Henry as a defender.

I'll go as far as to say I guarantee our back 6 will be better next year.

Healthy Jack Henry, SDK with something to prove again, Stewy at his dominant best, and Bews re-gaining some touch with a full pre-season.

Hopefully with some midfield improvement, they won't be getting an avalanche of entries too.

We can't base our opinions solely on 2023. Everything went wrong. That's not an excuse, as the hubris shown by players over the off-season played a huge part....but it's not going to be like that in 2024.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

What is Cooney on...

And how does Melbourne end up with both Hawkins & Pick 8 from us?

This was not a serious scenario. It was a joke for a bit of a laugh and a troll. So, sucked in.

 

[dazbroncos]

FFS Pay Tomma.

If ever Nike had the right idea...

JUST DO IT.

GO Catters

 

[catempire]

Just get rid of compensation.
I dont see why clubs like Geelong should get penalised for another team being a) crap and b) the other team rorting the system.
If we had no compensation, the McKay deal may well been Essendon give North their first pick and Essendon get McKay - fair deal, and probably would have happened. Kangas dont get 'rewarded' for losing a player and Geelong doesn't get shifted back (will have real implications for the Rat deal) for something it was not involved in.
But say Ess and North dont get a deal done, well either Essendon have to pay overs to nab their man, and North get salary cap to use on another player, or McKay goes to the defat, either way, North still have extra $$$ to poach someone else.
Compensation rewards poor management, stuffs up the draft and IMHO actually hampers trade and player movement

Would be interested to hear your views when we are down the bottom of the ladder for a period.

 

[Grimoz]

I'd be keen to add Will Gould for free, would be decent backup, was keen on him in his draft year

 

[No Quarter]

I'd have been of the opinion that if Hawk thinks he's still got 2 years in him, then he does. Doesn't usually come across as a selfish person, proven by his previous contracts.

Otherwise, surely 1 year deal with a 2nd trigger.

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

Not player news, but Doggies trying to poach Egan from us.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Wouldn't mind a look at Lochie OBrien as a cheap pickup

Dumb as dog shoot TBH. Pass.

I'd be keen to add Will Gould for free, would be decent backup, was keen on him in his draft year

4 games in 4 years tells me enough. Pass.

 

[Grimoz]

Dumb as dog shoot TBH. Pass.

4 games in 4 years tells me enough. Pass.

Hard team to get into especially in his position

 

[Willo_]

How is it possible that Cooney is still a talking head in the AFL landscape?

He's an inoffensive harmless idiot, and his role on Trade Radio is to come up with ridiculous mega trades than then do exactly what they have here... get people talking and reacting to it, and it fills a content slot for Hutchy

 

[Sttew]

Not player news, but Doggies trying to poach Egan from us.

Straight swap for B Smith

 

[BORIS332]

Here are the top 10s from the National Combine for those interested:

NATIONAL DRAFT COMBINE TOP 10s​

2km TIME TRIAL

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (min:sec)
Tarkyn O’Leary	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Parkdale Vultures	5:48
Darcy Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers	5:52
Ethan Read	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin	5:56
Jordan Croft	VIC M	Calder Cannons	Maribyrnong Park	6:05
Caiden Cleary	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University	6:06
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	6:06
Archie Roberts	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Hampton Rovers	6:08
Connor O’Sullivan	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury	6:11
Joel Freijah	VIC C	GWV Rebels	Horsham Saints	6:13
Harvey Johnston	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Parkdale Vultures	6:17
Koltyn Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Newtown Condingup	6:17

20m SPRINT

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (sec)
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	2.871
Will Graham	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin	2.915
Caleb Windsor	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	South Belgrave	2.916
Lance Collard	WA	Subiaco	North Beach	2.923
Kane McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta	2.930
Zane Zakostelsky	WA	Claremont	North Beach	2.954
Phoenix Gothard	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury	2.963
Taylor Goad	SA	South Adelaide	Willunga	2.965
Eion McElholm	Ireland	N/A	N/A	2.993
Harry DeMattia	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Edithvale-Aspendale	2.996

AGILITY TEST

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (sec)
Lance Collard	WA	Subiaco	North Beach	8.157
Koltyn Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Newtown Condingup	8.194
Angus Hastie	VIC C	Geelong Falcons	Geelong West Giants	8.204
Bodie Ryan	SA	Glenelg	Brighton	8.208
Zane Zakostelsky	WA	Claremont	North Beach	8.233
Ashton Moir	SA	Glenelg	Plympton	8.244
Reece Torrent	WA	Peel Thunder	Halls Head	8.260
Darcy Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers	8.263
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	8.302
Nate Caddy	VIC M	Northern Knights	Yarrambat	8.331

STANDING VERTICAL JUMP

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (cm)
Zane Zakostelsky	WA	Claremont	North Beach	80
Phoenix Gothard	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury	78
Will Graham	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin	78
Mitchell Edwards	WA	Peel Thunder	South Mandurah	78
Kane McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta	77
Darcy Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers	76
Riley Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham	75
Jack Delean	SA	South Adelaide	Reynella	74
Taylor Goad	SA	South Adelaide	Willunga	74
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	73
Caleb Windsor	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	South Belgrave	73

RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP

Name	State	State League Club	Community Club	Result (cm)
Darcy Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers	98
Zane Duursma	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Foster	97
Will Graham	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin	95
Kane McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta	95
Mitchell Edwards	WA	Peel Thunder	South Mandurah	94
Zane Zakostelsky	WA	Claremont	North Beach	94
Aiden O’Driscoll	WA	Perth	Northam Saints	92
Caleb Windsor	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	South Belgrave	92
Riley Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham	91
Cooper Simpson	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Mt Martha

 

[cats_09]

This was not a serious scenario. It was a joke for a bit of a laugh and a troll. So, sucked in.

All their mega trade scenarios are designed to get people talking - some of them aren't bad suggestions and you can see the starting point for potential trades, others are just way out there that you question what they were thinking

 

[iameviljez]

Would you preserve the compensation being tied to finishing position of the losing club?

This is the biggest gripe I have with compo.

Pick 3 for Ben McKay (or James Frawley, for that matter) is the most ridiculous rort, and a big punishment for Hawthorn, who should have had a crack at p3 but now can’t.

 

[Vdubs]

FFS Pay Tomma.

If ever Nike had the right idea...

JUST DO IT.

GO Catters

Very sad to imagine THawkins in any other jumper than the Cats one.
With Kelly, Chappy and SJ it was a little irksome, but this would be as bad as seeing GAJ going to GC.
Clearly he thinks he has at least one good year to offer, unlike his buddy Jack Riewoldt.
I'd be a lot happier seeing Tom retire than playing elsewhere, but that's just selfish me.
He may want one more flag, and realises it's not to be at Geelong?

 

[STPer18]

Harmes wants to get to Footscray.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

He's an inoffensive harmless idiot, and his role on Trade Radio is to come up with ridiculous mega trades than then do exactly what they have here... get people talking and reacting to it, and it fills a content slot for Hutchy

Yeah I don't mind him tbh.

Doesn't pretend to know any more than he does, doesn't brand himself as some oracle predicting what's going to happen (Hi Kingy).

Just an ex-footballer spitballing ideas. He's not hurting anybody, and doesn't act like his opinions are superior just because he played the game at the highest level.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Hard team to get into especially in his position

True. Agreed. But... Even harder when you're a dumb as dog shoot lol.