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List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

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From the hard ball gets podcast - who says no?

Collingwood trade Jordan Degoey to Fremantle in exchange for Andrew Brayshaw
 
That's actually a pretty crazy list turnover from Geelong. 9 players delisted or retired, getting Smith which will take multiple picks and with just the standard 4 picks in the draft as it stands.

Martin is absolutely going there for free and they are drafting DEEP in this draft
If Steven Wells reckons this the draft to go balls deep in, then this is the draft to go balls deep in.

Bolton for 9 and some shit I can’t be arsed to figure out but we have to keep 10 and we have to let The Typo and his new Geebung offsider loose on the second and third rounds.

Delist Emmett and Stanley and whoever else the **** you feel like delisting.
 
From the hard ball gets podcast - who says no?

Collingwood trade Jordan Degoey to Fremantle in exchange for Andrew Brayshaw

We say no. Fairly comfortably. Degoey is good but we’d be gutting the cultural core of our club
 

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From the hard ball gets podcast - who says no?

Collingwood trade Jordan Degoey to Fremantle in exchange for Andrew Brayshaw
Me wtf. Don’t want that grub anywhere near this team. Not to mention Brayshaw is 4 years younger. Also his second half of the year was back to his best. I don’t think there’s any world in which Freo says yes.
 
From the hard ball gets podcast - who says no?

Collingwood trade Jordan Degoey to Fremantle in exchange for Andrew Brayshaw
Everyone says no.

An injury prone guy who turns 29 before next season starts, who also happens to be one of the worst players off the field in the league.

Or a 24 year old midfielder who is never injured, who is so good for the culture he's in a two horse race for the next captain.

Come on man...
 
We say no. Fairly comfortably. Degoey is good but we’d be gutting the cultural core of our club

Brayshaw is a better footballer and younger IMO.

De Goey does things Brayshaw can’t do once or twice a game. Brayshaw has a more sustained impact on the majority of games. Was our best player in the last two months of the season and that’s saying something given how good Serong and Young are.
 
From the hard ball gets podcast - who says no?

Collingwood trade Jordan Degoey to Fremantle in exchange for Andrew Brayshaw
Was it your m8 Xavier Ellis again?

Even if wasn’t I got news for ya dockeroo ,hes no where near as smart as you think he is and certainly not even close to how smart he considers himself
 
Be hilarious if Geelong delist Parfitt and ask for Martin. Like what? That’s a downgrade IMO
Parfitt is as good offensively as he is a liability defensively. His lack of defence would be why he couldn’t be selected and why Geelong know he has no value.

Not sure why he wasn’t able to address this.
 

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Hey dont shoot the messenger about Degoey v Brayshaw! 😂

I wouldn’t do it either for what it’s worth. Mainly because of the cultural and leadership aspects that Andy provides that Degoey just… doesn’t.

It’s funny though - I’m certain if that proposed trade was presented on the pies board it would be the same reaction from their fans, but in the opposite direction.

I’m trying to be unbiased here, and I would say that Andy would have a similar trade value to someone like Sam Walsh. The only players on the freo list more valuable (in both $$ and potential trade value) in my opinion than Andy are Serong, Young, and Treacy.

Anyway he’s not leaving it was just HBG having a bit of fun.

Another one they came up with was Brennan Cox for Tom Barrass… consensus was the eagles would say no to that.
 
Hypothetical - assume we get Bolton for 9 & 16. Forget what other extras may come our way.

We have 10 and 27.

Also, assume we have no other players linked to us etc.

Do we give up 10 for North’s F1? Straight up exchange.

Means we hit the draft at 27.

Only bring in Bolton, but have 2 F1s for 2025.

Ours and North’s which will highly likely be inside top 6.
 
Hypothetical - assume we get Bolton for 9 & 16. Forget what other extras may come our way.

We have 10 and 27.

Also, assume we have no other players linked to us etc.

Do we give up 10 for North’s F1? Straight up exchange.

Means we hit the draft at 27.

Only bring in Bolton, but have 2 F1s for 2025.

Ours and North’s which will highly likely be inside top 6.
If Bolton is all we're getting this year then absolutely take 10 to the draft. If we're getting Warner next year when he's out of contract then we can get him with whatever we already have. Just like how we got Jackson with a weak hand. If we get North's pick then it's going straight to Sydney for Chad.

Everyone's raving about this draft so I'd like to keep a good pick. Don't want a repeat of 2018 where we wasted picks on Lobb and Hogan when we could've had Rozee or King.
 
Hypothetical - assume we get Bolton for 9 & 16. Forget what other extras may come our way.

We have 10 and 27.

Also, assume we have no other players linked to us etc.

Do we give up 10 for North’s F1? Straight up exchange.

Means we hit the draft at 27.

Only bring in Bolton, but have 2 F1s for 2025.

Ours and North’s which will highly likely be inside top 6.

Depends on Warner I think. If we know he's coming post contract then i probably don't do it. I'd rather take the first this year because it just gets eaten up in a Warner trade if you push it next year. There's no benefit from 'upgrading' it. In 2025 you just trade that first plus F1 for Warner.

If he's said to us nah I'm not committing to anything or there's other complications I'd consider it. Overall I'd rather take the picks this year given where our list is at but a potential top 3 is very tempting.
 

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Hypothetical - assume we get Bolton for 9 & 16. Forget what other extras may come our way.

We have 10 and 27.

Also, assume we have no other players linked to us etc.

Do we give up 10 for North’s F1? Straight up exchange.

Means we hit the draft at 27.

Only bring in Bolton, but have 2 F1s for 2025.

Ours and North’s which will highly likely be inside top 6.
No.
 
If Bolton is all we're getting this year then absolutely take 10 to the draft. If we're getting Warner next year when he's out of contract then we can get him with whatever we already have. Just like how we got Jackson with a weak hand. If we get North's pick then it's going straight to Sydney for Chad.

Everyone's raving about this draft so I'd like to keep a good pick. Don't want a repeat of 2018 where we wasted picks on Lobb and Hogan when we could've had Rozee or King.

That’s fair.

My point was more around North’s pick almost certainly being a bottom 6 pick, hence the discussion.

I think we should just use 10 too.

Another possible play is North splitting 2 with us for 9 and 10.

2 should almost certainly get us Bolton and 21. You’d think. Obviously, we wouldn’t do that trade unless it was known we could get extras from Richmond.

A 3 club trade could be an option. Maybe even 4 clubs.

North receive the pick to get Houston whilst still having a pick around 10.

Tigers get a pick inside 5.

Freo effectively lose 9&10 to get Bolton and 21.
 
Hypothetical - assume we get Bolton for 9 & 16. Forget what other extras may come our way.

We have 10 and 27.

Also, assume we have no other players linked to us etc.

Do we give up 10 for North’s F1? Straight up exchange.

Means we hit the draft at 27.

Only bring in Bolton, but have 2 F1s for 2025.

Ours and North’s which will highly likely be inside top 6.
In principle I like taking puts on future picks mainly with late first round picks.

Pick 10 in this deep draft is a better pick than a normal pick 10.
 
If Bolton is all we're getting this year then absolutely take 10 to the draft. If we're getting Warner next year when he's out of contract then we can get him with whatever we already have. Just like how we got Jackson with a weak hand. If we get North's pick then it's going straight to Sydney for Chad.

Everyone's raving about this draft so I'd like to keep a good pick. Don't want a repeat of 2018 where we wasted picks on Lobb and Hogan when we could've had Rozee or King.

Think pick 10 drafted in 2024 is probably more suited to a potential premiership push than pick 6 drafted in 2025 tbh.

If you could guarantee that the 2025 pick is top three though I think I’d be very very tempted. No draft is so strong that pick three is likely to be better than pick ten the next year. If anything this year’s draft is actually lacking genuine star power at the top btw so next year pick three could even be better than pick one is this year.
 
Hypothetical - assume we get Bolton for 9 & 16. Forget what other extras may come our way.

We have 10 and 27.

Also, assume we have no other players linked to us etc.

Do we give up 10 for North’s F1? Straight up exchange.

Means we hit the draft at 27.

Only bring in Bolton, but have 2 F1s for 2025.

Ours and North’s which will highly likely be inside top 6.
I’d prefer to use 10 TBH in the draft.

If we end up with two R1 picks next year it will just make the Warner price even higher.
All we need is one first rounder next year to get into the Warner race
 
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