Autopsy Round 10 - West Coast v St Kilda

[StCicatriz]

Steele had it 16 times. He's done.

 

[gringo2011]

I don’t know about you but personally I am grateful to have attended and learnt so much.

Surrounded by 180 IQ eagles fans, whose intellect was only surpassed by their grace and physical presentation. A real treat!

About time you campaigners got some of the shit we have to put up with every second week.

 

[gringo2011]

Obviously there's no need to play them all at once BUT why would we play Brad Hill for the 2nd half of the year? Why not give those games to Arie or Hastie or Trav?

If Steele is hurt, why keep pushing him? Get Box and Windy and Owens and Pou and Jack Carroll in for a few games each.

Why play a half fit King? Give Keeler and Dodson and Boyd a look at FF. Rotate them ruck with Roma as it's probably what we plan to do with him at TDK anyway.

Would you bring Howard back or give Barrat and Taurus half a dozen games each?

We've seen enough from Collard and Hall to know they are worth keeping on. So why not rest them for a couple of games each and give Patrick Said a month to see what the level is like?

We might get pumped by 100 in a few games. We might shock a few teams and snag some upset wins. We might also find a couple of solid players, ala Garcia.

One thing is for sure though: There's no point rolling out this team week after week for games to be essentially decided on 'effort'.

We need to find players with skill, ASAP, because it's going to take a few years at least to build the bodies needed to play this way week after week after week.

We still have to get people to attend and attract players.

 

[Diehard Saint]

It's hard to watch the team that beat Geelong and Port a few weeks ago and compare them to this. I know there's something to be said for a young team being inconsistent, but this is almost bi-polar levels of up and down.

The whole team needs a sports psych.
I thought Ross acquired one for the team early days.
Either that, or a bloody hypnotist.
It couldn’t possibly hurt.

 

[jwikked]

Lyon post-match, R10: 'We're just not handling it and getting the ball out of our back half'

Watch Euro-Yroke’s press conference after round ten’s match against Waaliti Marawar

www.afl.com.au

 

[SaintTwitch]

Poor performance from Euro Yroke. St Kilda wouldn't have lost that.

 

[OxSaint]

It’s time we turn Mitch into a midfielder. At least a 50/50 fwd mid. He made a huge difference in the final term. If the outside players played their part and didn’t turn it over in diabolical spots we might have stolen this game.

 

[Browny2Carlisle]

Decision is beyond bizarre

All time **** up

How about this one? Butler in the leadership group
Or hiring that vertically challenged failure Bolton to be forwards coach

 

[Saints43]

Marshall
Higgins
and Wilke

the rest can get in the bin.

we can moan about the shitful umpiring, but we were worse; we couldn't even string together two good runs of play back to back

I didn't even think the umpiring was that bad,
They denied them a heap of high free kicks where they dropped their knees. Should almost be a rule where it's a free kick against.
They hit a with a couple of inconsistent insufficient intent and short kick decisions but we were our enemies today,

 

[TheJackal]

Saints won’t get pick 3. They will win enough games to finish 11-12th. They will win a few games that don’t matter. Just like last year.

They'll be important wins for the KuLcHa though

 

[backtozero]

It's hard to watch the team that beat Geelong and Port a few weeks ago and compare them to this. I know there's something to be said for a young team being inconsistent, but this is almost bi-polar levels of up and down.

Surely you don't think that beating Port is some sort of accomplishment?

 

[tclan88]

Arrogant team selection. Despite getting killed in the air last week there was seemingly no consideration to bringing in another tall and once again our lack of height was exposed. Flynn and Williams are plodders so today was the perfect opportunity to bring in Boyd or even Heath. McLennan was hardly knocking the door down and just looks a bit lost at this level. And how much longer do we let Collard produce 5-6 possession games without any consequences? Also had zero tackles today so not sure what he brings. I get that he is a still young and learning his craft but has barely touched it all season. Even last week when he doubled up in the VFL he couldn’t get near it. I know recruiting can be a hit and miss but somehow we keep drafting players with either poor skills, no appetite for the contest or low footy IQ. People bag Jones but he has a crack, finds the footy and at least takes the game on. And Box was very stiff to get dropped while others survived.

As Albert Einstein once said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" On the back of that effort I expect to see some changes next week.

Quoting Einstein is a bit much… no selection would overcome poor effort and application. I reckon we bring back Bytel, Clavarino and our 2019 national draft haul.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Next week. Won't happen, but here goes anyway, l don't care.

B. Wilkie Caminiti O'Connell

H.B. NWM Keeler Sinclair

C. Hastie Boxshall Travaglia

H.F. Wilson Sharman Hall

F. Wood Marshall Higgins

Foll. Heath Owens Phillipou

 l/C. Byrnes, Boyd, Clark, Sch'maker, Butler-sub

Outs. Collard, Garcia, Hill, Macrae, McLennan, Steele, Webster, Windhager

 

[Saints43]

Yeah, both leaders who look like they can't be ****ed. Been defending Hill but he looks like it's time to take him out to pasture. Travaglia would offer more.

For Hill to back up the Carlton game where he may have been the 15 point difference with that today?
Yeah, nah.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

You know it’s bad when I’m not even angry. It’s just sad

 

[Hubnester]

If 16 hours was normal throughout the competition, it wouldn't be used by Lyon as a pitch to lure outside players to the club lol

Well that's not necessarily true. The point is, we don't know what normal is. Maybe it's 17 hours contact. Maybe we have a more 'flexible' arrangement than other clubs, trusting players to do set work or recovery on their own. Those are selling points but still give us zero context about what we're actually being compared with.

 

[Browny2Carlisle]

Surely you don't think that beating Port is some sort of accomplishment?

It is for us

 

[Diehard Saint]

And just think we train 1 less day a week than any other club

WTH is that? I just don’t understand it.
Time to stop it.

 

[Saints TV]

 

[gringo2011]

Lyon post-match, R10: 'We're just not handling it and getting the ball out of our back half'

Watch Euro-Yroke’s press conference after round ten’s match against Waaliti Marawar

www.afl.com.au

Actually pretty accurate as much as it hurts he does know what's up at least.

 

[Joffaboy]

I have just about given up on this club.

We just go up and down in one spot year in year out.

 

[Hubnester]

Surely you don't think that beating Port is some sort of accomplishment?

Right now, a regulation 20m pass to a teammate on the full would be an accomplishment for us

 

[Browny2Carlisle]

Actually pretty accurate as much as it hurts he does know what's up at least.

And yet does nothing to change it

 

[Yabadoo22]

To the people saying at least we know collard can play, do we??

Lazy, small, timid, arrogant. He's got that down pat.

 

[The Cobra]

Worst loss under RTB #2. It’s one thing to be outclassed by WB or Brisbane but WCE?

Sincs, Marshall & Higgo can hold their heads up and probably 1 or 2 others. The rest?

I’m really not sure where we go from here - we have lost 5 of the last 6. I really believe RTB is an excellent coach but I’m reluctantly coming to the conclusion that we have a list of C grade footballers. When the team brings 100% effort and manic pressure we are a decent team but when we drop off all our weaknesses are exposed.

My God how many tackles did we miss today? Just lacked aggression from the get go.

Our DNA was meant to be a hard running team that ground other teams into exhaustion- seemed to have completely lost that.

We just lack real game changers. Losing Howard completely destabilises our backline. No King means our forward line is pretty plain vanilla. I really hope some of these kids turn into A graders - we desperately need some class asap.

Very flat - if RTB can’t knock this team into some sort of shape and develop these kids after 5 years I honestly don’t know where the club goes from here.