Opinion Could Lachie Neale be considered the GOAT?

[Jeremias]

Brilliant footballer.

Nowhere near GOAT discussions.

 

[darcytiger]

It’s funny with Neale, has an amazing record but if you dissolved every team and had to draft 18 new teams, I reckon he makes it to the 3rd round.

 

[Kappa]

27 goals from those 4 finals matches. An average of 6.7 goals per game. Plus he won the Norm Smith medal as well. Had the Player of the Finals award been around then - he would of win it.

Different game back then, half of his opponents were part time alcoholics...

 

[PhatBoy]

Different game back then, half of his opponents were part time alcoholics...

Which begs the question as to why everyone else wasn’t doing the same thing each finals series then.

 

[The Unforgiven]

And how good is it that people won’t remember it that way. Please sook more

If you say so, pal. You can have your opinion, I'll have mine, and the rest of the folk can be wrong with you.

In all seriousness, Dusty had an amazing year - as did Danger - but, I feel (and I'm not alone here) that Houli was BOG on GF day.

 

[RCAB]

Neale wouldn't even start in the Lions dynasty midfield.

Voss, Black and Akermanis are all more talented.

He's probably around the same level as Luke Power

Luke Power

Age

45

Ht

180cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.0

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.9

5star

CL

1.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

.

 

[Cleansweep17]

If you say so, pal. You can have your opinion, I'll have mine, and the rest of the folk can be wrong with you.

In all seriousness, Dusty had an amazing year - as did Danger - but, I feel (and I'm not alone here) that Houli was BOG on GF day.

Dustys 2017 GF was rated the second highest behind Shueys since the stats were taken. But yeah each to their own.

 

[PhatBoy]

Neale wouldn't even start in the Lions dynasty midfield.

Voss, Black and Akermanis are all more talented.

He's probably around the same level as Luke Power.

He’s better then Luke power but agree he’s a step below Lappin, black and Voss (I find it hard to consider Akermanis a true midfielder)

 

[RCAB]

He’s better then Luke power but agree he’s a step below Lappin, black and Voss (I find it hard to consider Akermanis a true midfielder)

How did I forget Lappin. Stacked as ****ed midfield.

Yes, Akermanis is not a true mid but still better than Neale.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

No but he should of had the Norm last year.

 

[RCAB]

No but he should of had the Norm last year.

Why? Ashcroft was more influential.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Why? Ashcroft was more influential.

I reckon Neale was.

 

[Mr Meow]

4 All Australians (could have been 5), 2 Brownlows (one was a bit of a surprise), a League MVP, 6 BnFs and a Gary Ayres medal - its a fair resume. I don't think he'll add to any of those. One poor grand final, one great grand final.

Not quite modern GOAT contender-worthy. Impact of disposals and scoring metrics a bit less than the ultra damaging players who either had explosive attributes + big kicks, or were elite for skills. Probably more dangerous by hand than foot.

 

[Papa G]

Nope.

Doesn't play for Victorian team.
Isn't Victorian.
Therefore Ineligible.

 

[PerthBoy86]

Are Woewoedin, Mitchell, Wines better than Matthews, Ablett and Carey because they won Brownlows?

 

[Mr Meow]

Are Woewoedin, Mitchell, Wines better than Matthews, Ablett and Carey because they won Brownlows?

Obviously.

And Cripps/Neale between them are a million times better than Selwood, Pendlebury, Bontempelli et al. combined.

 

[RCAB]

Nope.

Doesn't play for Victorian team.
Isn't Victorian.
Therefore Ineligible.

 

[Lunchtime]

4 All Australians (could have been 5), 2 Brownlows (one was a bit of a surprise), a League MVP, 6 BnFs and a Gary Ayres medal - its a fair resume. I don't think he'll add to any of those. One poor grand final, one great grand final.

Not quite modern GOAT contender-worthy. Impact of disposals and scoring metrics a bit less than the ultra damaging players who either had explosive attributes + big kicks, or were elite for skills. Probably more dangerous by hand than foot.

Its a pretty good resume' he has had a fine career.

 

[Mr Meow]

Its a pretty good resume' he has had a fine career.

Agreed. Where do you rank him among 21st century players? Top 3? 5? 10? 20? 50?

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Are Woewoedin, Mitchell, Wines better than Matthews, Ablett and Carey because they won Brownlows?

Yes.

 

[GC2015]

I mean yes he is a very very good player but I wouldn't have him ahead of Ablett Jnr, Martin, Judd, Dangerfield, Franklin.

What about now? Dual Brownlow medalist and a dual premiership captain. Currently sits 5th all-time in Brownlow votes.

 

[Partridge]

What about now? Dual Brownlow medalist and a dual premiership captain. Currently sits 5th all-time in Brownlow votes.

It's reasonable to say he probably should be rated a little higher.

Two years in a row he's absolutely turned up and starred when it mattered most. That counts for something. When you look at the overall record maybe that 2nd Brownlow wasn't quite as big an upset as thought (certainly by me - putting my hand up big time).

If anyone had a right to underperform he did, instead he came on and absolutely dominated. Clean hands, good decision making, and an utterly brilliant goal under the tightest pressure. Got better with each passing minute.

 

[Lunchtime]

What about now? Dual Brownlow medalist and a dual premiership captain. Currently sits 5th all-time in Brownlow votes.

No, he is still behind Ablett Jnr, Martin, Judd and Dangerfield in my opinion. The reason being is that those players were more dynamic. They also hit the scoreboard often too.

Having said that, Neale still has had an outstanding career.

 

[harper2bastinac]

Definitely not the goat but I’d easily have him as top 5 of the last 5 years

 

[Xtreme]

What about now? Dual Brownlow medalist and a dual premiership captain. Currently sits 5th all-time in Brownlow votes.

Needs to win 3 Norm Smith medals before he can even be on level playing field with GOAT Dusty. Probably needs to bribe people to stop giving them to an Ashcroft