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Carlton still think they're in the window, from what I've heard they're the ones most likely to go after him.
 

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He is also very selfish on the footy field.
Not saying he isn’t but Ginni was also labelled lazy and somewhat selfish and he’s turned that around.

I think of all poor habits selfishness is one of the easier ones to rectify.

He knows how to get into the right positions to receive the ball and has very good forward craft for my inexperienced eye. Depending on cost I think he’d be a good get.
 
Not saying he isn’t but Ginni was also labelled lazy and somewhat selfish and he’s turned that around.

I think of all poor habits selfishness is one of the easier ones to rectify.

He knows how to get into the right positions to receive the ball and has very good forward craft for my inexperienced eye. Depending on cost I think he’d be a good get.
Club culture also plays a big part here also. It’s undeniable the morale is totally different at Hawthorn than Melbourne and has been for as long as I’ve been watching football. Get him out of a toxic environment and watch him thrive the Hawthorn way.
 
So pleased we have pulled out of the Oscar Allen deal.
 
IMO, nobody outside of Collingwood, Geelong and Brisbane are a chance this year unfortunately.

Feels like the rest of the 'contenders' (us, GWS, Adelaide, Gold Coast, Dogs) are spinning their wheels waiting for those other 3 sides to age out.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but that's the general feel I have over season 2025.
I don't think it works that way anymore.

Somehow the season feels 8 weeks longer than it used to - and no team stays up for the full length of the season.

And Hawks always (hope this year is no exception) do a lot better in the second half of the year than the first. To do better than 8-5 in terms of ratio, would be us winning 7 games or more out of the last 10. That's 15+ wins and a top 4 spot most likely. if we hit the finals with momentum i would back us to do really well, especially if that momentum includes a fit and performing Will Day and Mitch Lewis
 
The so called visionaries on Gettable still have us linked to Oscar Allen as well as chasing Butters, Reid and Walsh from Carlton. If we land anyone of the aforementioned players I hope it is Butters as he is as hard as a cats head and shows plenty of mongrel which is just what we need in our midfield mix.
 

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The so called visionaries on Gettable still have us linked to Oscar Allen as well as chasing Butters, Reid and Walsh from Carlton. If we land anyone of the aforementioned players I hope it is Butters as he is as hard as a cats head and shows plenty of mongrel which is just what we need in our midfield mix.
They have no idea.
 
The so called visionaries on Gettable still have us linked to Oscar Allen as well as chasing Butters, Reid and Walsh from Carlton. If we land anyone of the aforementioned players I hope it is Butters as he is as hard as a cats head and shows plenty of mongrel which is just what we need in our midfield mix.
Fair to say Butters has a more than normal quantity of "campaigner" in him which was a pretty big part of our 3 peat teams (Lewis, Mitch, Lake, Hodge, Buddy, etc).
 
The so called visionaries on ForGettable still have us linked to Oscar Allen as well as chasing Butters, Reid and Walsh from Carlton. If we land anyone of the aforementioned players I hope it is Butters as he is as hard as a cats head and shows plenty of mongrel which is just what we need in our midfield mix.

FTFY
 

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Bergman getting 8-9 year deals at near a million a year? wtf is actually happening in the league, Bergman is nice but far out he isn’t that nice
St Kilda
 
Does anyone get the feeling one or two of our taller backs could be up for trade at seasons end? Serong, Frost if he doesn’t retire? I don’t like it but maybe even Scrim? He would have some value I think. Could help bring in a Harley?
I think we will give Serong and Frost the option to look for other opportunities. Scrim would be a big call - only 26 years old.
 
Does anyone get the feeling one or two of our taller backs could be up for trade at seasons end? Serong, Frost if he doesn’t retire? I don’t like it but maybe even Scrim? He would have some value I think. Could help bring in a Harley?
Let’s not get carried away here, Scrimmers ain’t going anywhere.

He’s a Hawks nuffie and we know how good he is when he is fit (plus he’s entering his prime years).
 
Have heard recently that hawks are still quietly confident about a deal for butters, despite all the chat about butters and the dogs.
He’d be the number 1 mid at the hawks but he’d be maybe second or even third at the doggies given their glut of midfield talent (behind Bont and Richards).

I’m all aboard the butters to Hawks bandwagon, makes sense on many levels.
 
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