List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

[Big_Birdy]

Didn’t sharp get 10 touches playing seniors in the SANFL, he ain’t no Chris Judd.

Judd's first game against men was for East Perth wasn't it?

To be fair he kicked 4 and had 15. But also already had a full AFL pre-season.

And no I am not expecting Sharp to be Judd.

 

[bzparkes]

You'd dye your hair too if you were a red head. Don't you know a poster here got bashed up once for having red hair?

Red heads have no business going blonde.

 

[Couchpotato]

This year feels similar to the year we took Gaff at pick 4 in 2011 - by that point we had a lot of the young talls on our list already and a few pieces of our midfield in place in Shuey (inside / outside), Masten (transition) and Priddis (inside bull). We needed the outside class and added Gaff.

Now our balance of young talls feels pretty good and we have Reid & Hewett (inside / outside class), Hough (transition / defensive) and Hall (inside bull). Sharp sounds like an upgrade on Hall so that makes sense for one of our first picks.

The question is whether Duursma is that classy outside / wing player (or whatever that role has evolved into) - the new tall wingman / halfback? Sounds like his disposal lets him down at times though. Or does Lindsay eventually go into the midfield?

CDT makes sense if we get Cameron and CDT gets to spend 3 years in the WAFL - but that only makes sense if CDT is a ruckman. Personally, I'd rather we use a late pick to gather a young ruckman this draft to develop while Cameron / Flynn / Williams carry us for 3 years - or trade for a young ruckman elsewhere.

 

[Donkers]

This year feels similar to the year we took Gaff at pick 4 in 2011 - by that point we had a lot of the young talls on our list already and a few pieces of our midfield in place in Shuey (inside / outside), Masten (transition) and Priddis (inside bull). We needed the outside class and added Gaff.

Now our balance of young talls feels pretty good and we have Reid & Hewett (inside / outside class), Hough (transition / defensive) and Hall (inside bull). Sharp sounds like an upgrade on Hall so that makes sense for one of our first picks.

The question is whether Duursma is that classy outside / wing player (or whatever that role has evolved into) - the new tall wingman / halfback? Sounds like his disposal lets him down at times though. Or does Lindsay eventually go into the midfield?

CDT makes sense if we get Cameron and CDT gets to spend 3 years in the WAFL - but that only makes sense if CDT is a ruckman. Personally, I'd rather we use a late pick to gather a young ruckman this draft to develop while Cameron / Flynn / Williams carry us for 3 years - or trade for a young ruckman elsewhere.

Unless they are a truly generational talent you just don't use a top pick on a ruck. CDT is not a generational talent and his ruck craft is poor, even against his draft class. So he makes absolutely zero sense.

 

[noobermensch]

Full Champs highlights for Dyson Sharp who reminded everyone why he's been the standout prospect from this draft class for years coming up through the junior grades. He led his team brilliantly to a clean sweep at the Champs, dominating the competition, and Sharp duly took home a very much deserved Larke medal for his efforts.

 

[BEagle22]

Full Champs highlights for Dyson Sharp who reminded everyone why he's been the standout prospect from this draft class for years coming up through the junior grades. He led his team brilliantly to a clean sweep at the Champs, dominating the competition, and Sharp duly took home a very much deserved Larke medal for his efforts.

Cheers noobermensch. Really appreciate all the work you do!

 

[Farang83150]

I thought our most dire need was someone inside helping Reid?
So wouldn't getting a bloke that's AFL size, plays inside and highly rated be our best bet at 1?

 

[squashface]

I thought our most dire need was someone inside helping Reid?
So wouldn't getting a bloke that's AFL size, plays inside and highly rated be our best bet at 1?

You’d be hard pressed to find any other player so suited for a club than Sharp and WCE.

So I fully expect Clarke and the brains trust to again think they are the smartest in the room and do something stupid.

 

[Barrybran]

I thought our most dire need was someone inside helping Reid?
So wouldn't getting a bloke that's AFL size, plays inside and highly rated be our best bet at 1?

You’d be hard pressed to find any other player so suited for a club than Sharp and WCE.

So I fully expect Clarke and the brains trust to again think they are the smartest in the room and do something stupid.

While Sharp appears to be the most talented player in this draft, I don't necessarily think he is the best fit. I see his role in our side overlapping with Hewett's. The best fit alongside Harley is a Priddis/Redden first-hands-to-the-ball player.

A midfield unit of Reid/Hewett/Sharp could be the closest we might get to the Cousins/Judd/Kerr era though as far as talent, strength, speed, class and unpredictability goes.

 

[bigmikles089]

The best fit alongside Harley is a Priddis/Redden first-hands-to-the-ball player.

Personally this is how I see Sharp - a first touch extractor out to the Reid's and Hewett's.

Will be interesting to see what his role looks like early days in the AFL, regardless of who drafts him.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

While Sharp appears to be the most talented player in this draft, I don't necessarily think he is the best fit. I see his role in our side overlapping with Hewett's. The best fit alongside Harley is a Priddis/Redden first-hands-to-the-ball player.

A midfield unit of Reid/Hewett/Sharp could be the closest we might get to the Cousins/Judd/Kerr era though as far as talent, strength, speed, class and unpredictability goes.

I thought sharp was exactly the Priddis redden extractor type. ?

 

[Barrybran]

I thought sharp was exactly the Priddis redden extractor type. ?

He seems like the type you want with ball in hand more so than having to find the ball himself. A bit like Harley.

It could work though. Three guys capable of getting their own ball but also able to go to work if the ball is coming out to them.

 

[Donkers]

While Sharp appears to be the most talented player in this draft, I don't necessarily think he is the best fit. I see his role in our side overlapping with Hewett's. The best fit alongside Harley is a Priddis/Redden first-hands-to-the-ball player.

A midfield unit of Reid/Hewett/Sharp could be the closest we might get to the Cousins/Judd/Kerr era though as far as talent, strength, speed, class and unpredictability goes.

Sharp is a perfect fit as he is very good at controlling and creating space in tight. So if he doesn't get the ball, it allows space for Reid / Hewett or he tends to lay the tackle on the opposition.

His only negative and I can see the WCE not drafting him on it is his ability to cover ground on transition due to max speed. (His kicking is also only average)

 

[Elite Pete]

He seems like the type you want with ball in hand more so than having to find the ball himself. A bit like Harley.

It could work though. Three guys capable of getting their own ball but also able to go to work if the ball is coming out to them.

The knock on him was he might only be an inside player but showed he can do both at the champs.

Very good to elite clearance player at AFL level should be his floor. I personally see a lot of Tom Green in him than Rowell. Quick and smart hands. Elite IQ, ok kick but good over head and can find the goals. Even waddles around like Green. Can he get his endurance to that level.

 

[Elite Pete]

SANFL bye this week. Only the two AFL ressies playing each other.

Next week it’s Centrals vs North. Sharp vs Cumming. Hopefully Sharp get majority mid time

 

[stallon]

The knock on him was he might only be an inside player but showed he can do both at the champs.

Very good to elite clearance player at AFL level should be his floor. I personally see a lot of Tom Green in him than Rowell. Quick and smart hands. Elite IQ, ok kick but good over head and can find the goals. Even waddles around like Green. Can he get his endurance to that level.

Him being more similar to Tom Green is why im not sold on taking him at pick 1. Game is based on transition these days, not stoppage work.
Green at GWS has a midfield and flanks filled wit elite runners, we dont have that luxury.

We have Reid and Hewett who are both more your power athletes who aren't meant to be running up and down the ground all day, its just not their natural game.
Imo if we filled our midfield with a transition style mid with some stoppage craft and another balanced mid with an elite kick our midfield will be completed.
Then you have your 5th as a more defensive player, perhaps Hall or Allan are a couple who we could groom into this role

Most of the pure stoppage players across the comp in general have fallen off the last couple of years, with the transition players like of Daicos, Bailey Smith, Holmes, NWM, McLuggage, etc really becoming the centre points of teams.

 

[The Feathered Fool]

Him being more similar to Tom Green is why im not sold on taking him at pick 1. Game is based on transition these days, not stoppage work.
Green at GWS has a midfield and flanks filled wit elite runners, we dont have that luxury.

We have Reid and Hewett who are both more your power athletes who aren't meant to be running up and down the ground all day, its just not their natural game.
Imo if we filled our midfield with a transition style mid with some stoppage craft and another balanced mid with an elite kick our midfield will be completed.
Then you have your 5th as a more defensive player, perhaps Hall or Allan are a couple who we could groom into this role

Most of the pure stoppage players across the comp in general have fallen off the last couple of years, with the transition players like of Daicos, Bailey Smith, Holmes, NWM, McLuggage, etc really becoming the centre points of teams.

Hello all, long time stalker, first time poster.

Looking at those highlights, I actually got P Cripps vibes....decent mark overhead, gets his hands clear when tackled and in congestion to get a handball out, eye for a goal.

 

[Elite Pete]

Him being more similar to Tom Green is why im not sold on taking him at pick 1. Game is based on transition these days, not stoppage work.
Green at GWS has a midfield and flanks filled wit elite runners, we dont have that luxury.

We have Reid and Hewett who are both more your power athletes who aren't meant to be running up and down the ground all day, its just not their natural game.
Imo if we filled our midfield with a transition style mid with some stoppage craft and another balanced mid with an elite kick our midfield will be completed.
Then you have your 5th as a more defensive player, perhaps Hall or Allan are a couple who we could groom into this role

Most of the pure stoppage players across the comp in general have fallen off the last couple of years, with the transition players like of Daicos, Bailey Smith, Holmes, NWM, McLuggage, etc really becoming the centre points of teams.

If Tom Green was in the draft or we could trade for him with pick 1 I’d di it without question.

We also have 2 other picks for the runners. Hewett still unknown if he will be a full time mid. Harley 100% will be.

Getting a pure mid like Sharp is 100% what we need. Clearance and then being at the right spot the right time.

Not sure if there is a pure runner in the draft that you’d lock in at pick 1 or 2.

 

[stallon]

Hello all, long time stalker, first time poster.

Looking at those highlights, I actually got P Cripps vibes....decent mark overhead, gets his hands clear when tackled and in congestion to get a handball out, eye for a goal.

Imo the Cripps types are going out of fashion. Carlton win clearance every week but that doesnt help them win games. Now you could say anything about the state of Carltons list or their coaching, but the top teams dont have a player like Cripps, none of the current top 5 have a player in the same mould as Cripps or Green.
They have some inside mids but theyre the hardly stars, the guys in the 15-22nd spot on the team sheet every week (outside the Lions who just have too many high picks and are an unrealistic comparison)

 

[stallon]

If Tom Green was in the draft or we could trade for him with pick 1 I’d di it without question.

We also have 2 other picks for the runners. Hewett still unknown if he will be a full time mid. Harley 100% will be.

Getting a pure mid like Sharp is 100% what we need. Clearance and then being at the right spot the right time.

Not sure if there is a pure runner in the draft that you’d lock in at pick 1 or 2.

Yes id trade pick 1 for Green, but we dont know if we are getting Green.
Green is probably best case scenario for Sharp in 5-6 years time.

I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that that style of mid is our most dire need, not that it wouldnt be a fine addition.

Agree there may not be the ideal candidate there at pick 1 or 2, but im open to considering a Duursma or something instead at 1 then splitting pick 2 with the Bombers or something

 

[Thunderstruck]

Wasn’t playing full midfield, he also had 21d, 1g, 10t, 5cl as an underager in a sanfl final last year.

Without a single centre bounce attendance

 

[ziad]

Yes id trade pick 1 for Green, but we dont know if we are getting Green.
Green is probably best case scenario for Sharp in 5-6 years time.

I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that that style of mid is our most dire need, not that it wouldnt be a fine addition.

Agree there may not be the ideal candidate there at pick 1 or 2, but im open to considering a Duursma or something instead at 1 then splitting pick 2 with the Bombers or something

I remember Green cleaning us up in his first or second year

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I don't think Cripps is the right comparison. He's a more consistent and more effective Jai Newcombe or a less skilled Toby Green (as a mid). Sharp is a desperado ground ball player who comes with some forward half punch. Our Graham replacement (see our efforts v Richmond in his absence).

I don't see Hall as a primary extractor, he's somewhere between Redden and Masten. Solid but unspectacular in the clinches and then effective at finding space around the ground. Looks likes he's at the grade.

Emphasis should be on ground ball and break away pace. Which should rule CDT and to a lesser extent Duursma out on needs basis.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

If Tom Green was in the draft or we could trade for him with pick 1 I’d di it without question.

We also have 2 other picks for the runners. Hewett still unknown if he will be a full time mid. Harley 100% will be.

Getting a pure mid like Sharp is 100% what we need. Clearance and then being at the right spot the right time.

Not sure if there is a pure runner in the draft that you’d lock in at pick 1 or 2.

Young Jack Dalton is who we need to target as the runner. As eaglevision has said, the kid can run all day

 

[Couchpotato]

Yes id trade pick 1 for Green, but we dont know if we are getting Green.
Green is probably best case scenario for Sharp in 5-6 years time.

I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that that style of mid is our most dire need, not that it wouldnt be a fine addition.

Agree there may not be the ideal candidate there at pick 1 or 2, but im open to considering a Duursma or something instead at 1 then splitting pick 2 with the Bombers or something

This is my concern with Sharp - would he be a good mid, sure, but is he just a slight variation on what we already have in Hewett, Reid and Hall?

Watch all 3 of them defensively run (...waddle) after their midfielders after the ball leaves a stoppage and you can see that we need a transition mid, preferably with pace. Maybe that's Hough, but you'd love a high end natural transition / defensive mid available at 1 or 2.

I haven't seen enough of Sharp other than highlights posted - so will be interested to see his speed / agility / fitness results at the combine.