List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[Aphrodite]

Not if involved another player. remember it was the players who banned Lij not the club

Allegedly

 

[HereComesJuddy]

I don’t actually?

Someone is going to have to cough up a gun for us to trade Charlie. And I can’t see clubs being happy to do that for picks in a compromised and weak draft.

Then you do know. You picked one word out I said and made it something it’s not.

 

[Aphrodite]

We're not having a firesale, start telling your Google app to give you different news.

Last year was the year to do that, not now.

Wow!

 

[DangerousD]

I’m over the Charlie back and forth and I understand that lots of players under contract get traded but I had a look at out of contract options and it’s pretty bare but some possible cheap options.

Ah Chee: replace Hollands
Fin McRae: needs opportunity
Laverde (UFA) replace SOS and Gov
Delean:
Erasmus, highly rated junior
Ladhams, is he an upgrade on Pitt?
Chesser, has been playing well
Cole, free agent.

 

[Crippa#9]

I’m over the Charlie back and forth and I understand that lots of players under contract get traded but I had a look at out of contract options and it’s pretty bare but some possible cheap options.

Ah Chee: replace Hollands
Fin McRae: needs opportunity
Laverde (UFA) replace SOS and Gov
Delean:
Erasmus, highly rated junior
Ladhams, is he an upgrade on Pitt?
Chesser, has been playing well
Cole, free agent.

None of these guys are improving us one bit.

 

[SurreyBlue]

None of these guys are improving us one bit.

That’s the problem. We will lose more than we gain.

 

[macky99]

No idea, but I’m sure it will get done. It still can get easily done without those top 4 players. Most likely a multi team trade

The only way l see it happening is if Warner was involved in a trade to West Coast and Curnow was part of a three way trade, but believe that is low probability.
This draft is not strong which will make it even more challenging that high picks are not as heavily in demand.

 

[ABigOlDoofus]

I'm gonna get booted from the board for saying this due to how blasphemous is it, however...

I think losing Charlie and adding Flanders makes us a better team.

No idea about the logistics on how we'd get that done and not suggesting we push Charlie out the door, but we've looked better with one key forward rather than two, and Flanders when played as a full time mid is actually crazy, finds the footy and is damaging with it, also kicks goals from the midfield which is something we haven't had for YEARS. He's an absolute gun and super, super underrated IMO.

 

[juzza316]

That’s the problem. We will lose more than we gain.

And we are getting worse over the off-season in comparison to most of the rest of the league who will be improving at a higher rate than us.
We appear unlikely to make finals next year and 10th-14th would be the most likely bracket I can see us in.
Usually look forward to the off-seasons you can usually see hope - not this time

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

I wonder if the emergence of West and possible need to spend big on a defender might make a Cody Weightman

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Cody Weightman

Age

24

Ht

179cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.5

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

6.5

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

6.5

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

G

1.0

4star

discussion possible.

He has had a serious knee injury...

 

[chuncey]

I wonder if the emergence of West and possible need to spend big on a defender might make a Cody Weightman discussion possible.

He has had a serious knee injury...

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Put Weightman back in the Dogd side and they definately make finals. They played Mc NEIL who wouldn’t get in OUR forward line!

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Kemp, Moir, and potentially Khamis say hi... Oh, and Frank the Tank and Flynn Young are in the background waving. Williams has also proven to be a good option forward. Then we have Cotts coming back and Motts who will rotate through the middle of the ground with Moir and Williams.

Losing Lij isn't quite the problem that people think.

I think it’s a godsend…most don’t realise it.

 

[BigFrizz36]

If Butters as a pre agent is going to leave Port at the end of next season maybe they could maximise his value by this

Carlton - Lose Charlie Gain Zac Butters
Swans - Lose Logan McDonald& Pick 9 - Gain Charlie
Port - Gain Logan McDonald & Pick 9 - Lose Zac Butters

Close?

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

If Butters as a pre agent is going to leave Port at the end of next season maybe they could maximise his value by this

Carlton - Lose Charlie Gain Zac Butters
Swans - Lose Logan McDonald& Pick 9 - Gain Charlie
Port - Gain Logan McDonald & Pick 9 - Lose Zac Butters

Close?

Don't know that Port want or need McDonald, but they are at least one early first round pick short in this scenario.

 

[JustOneTime]

Big test of whether Carlton are seen as a professional AFL programme to be involved with or a struggling team that isnt enticing to 'sought after players'. Sourcing putricelle and Buku alone doesnt cut it.

It's players like S flanders that Carlton need to ensure they arent seen as a joke club right now. We can only trade / list so many backup players.

Get it done Austin or get out.

 

[JustOneTime]

If Butters as a pre agent is going to leave Port at the end of next season maybe they could maximise his value by this

Carlton - Lose Charlie Gain Zac Butters
Swans - Lose Logan McDonald& Pick 9 - Gain Charlie
Port - Gain Logan McDonald & Pick 9 - Lose Zac Butters

Close?

Finessing this deal seems like the best ive seen so far. Some issues with it but Carlton would definitely accept Butters, and make the same mistake they have been making for years in trading for another 'eventual' inside mid (Butters = Neale) of which they are over supplied with.

Carlton need to spread their dollars to some outside types or they are ****ed into eternity.

 

[Dramoth]

I think it’s a godsend…most don’t realise it.

Lij is talented as hell but he has an issue. He's slightly immature and needs to grow up. He's a young guy, like all of them, who was handed buku money before he was ready for it. The other issue is that he was taken away from his support base of his family. So, he did what every kid does when he's away from home and has a huge wedge of cash in his pocket, he went nuts. And unfortunately, what's when the issue started.

 

[carlton_99]

If Butters as a pre agent is going to leave Port at the end of next season maybe they could maximise his value by this

Carlton - Lose Charlie Gain Zac Butters
Swans - Lose Logan McDonald& Pick 9 - Gain Charlie
Port - Gain Logan McDonald & Pick 9 - Lose Zac Butters

Close?

Pretty good attempt but I think unders for Zac Butters. Also, do Port need another KPF? Georgiades, Marshall and Lord are all capable

 

[carlton_99]

Finessing this deal seems like the best ive seen so far. Some issues with it but Carlton would definitely accept Butters, and make the same mistake they have been making for years in trading for another 'eventual' inside mid (Butters = Neale) of which they are over supplied with.

Carlton need to spread their dollars to some outside types or they are ****ed into eternity.

You are right about oversupply of inside mids but Butters is a special talent that spreads from the contest as good as anyone and is a great user of the ball. Would be a POD compared to our current mids

 

[Jimmae]

Wow!

Mine is literally alerting me with clickbait articles on the same 4 bits of Carlton news twice a day... apparently drama trends.

You tap 1 or 2 headlines, and then it won't shutup.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Don't know that Port want or need McDonald, but they are at least one early first round pick short in this scenario.

How so, if Butters is likely to move back to Victoria as a free agent next year they are either accept a first rounder or have to match an offer from wherever Butters is going of around $2 mill to match and force a trade and probably wouldn't have the space to do so.

McDonald along with Georgiadis would be the basis of a strong forward line. If Port didn't want McDonald they could have Sydneys pick 9 this year but they could also have the Swans future 1st.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

How so, if Butters is likely to move back to Victoria as a free agent next year they are either accept a first rounder or have to match an offer from wherever Butters is going of around $2 mill to match and force a trade and probably wouldn't have the space to do so.

McDonald along with Georgiadis would be the basis of a strong forward line. If Port didn't want McDonald they could have Sydneys pick 9 this year but they could also have the Swans future 1st.

Port would ask and receive a kings ransom, particularly where 25 picks are concerned.

Add our TDK pick and they may pick up the phone

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I'm gonna get booted from the board for saying this due to how blasphemous is it, however...

I think losing Charlie and adding Flanders makes us a better team.

No idea about the logistics on how we'd get that done and not suggesting we push Charlie out the door, but we've looked better with one key forward rather than two, and Flanders when played as a full time mid is actually crazy, finds the footy and is damaging with it, also kicks goals from the midfield which is something we haven't had for YEARS. He's an absolute gun and super, super underrated IMO.

Agreed

 

[Stamos]

How so, if Butters is likely to move back to Victoria as a free agent next year they are either accept a first rounder or have to match an offer from wherever Butters is going of around $2 mill to match and force a trade and probably wouldn't have the space to do so.

McDonald along with Georgiadis would be the basis of a strong forward line. If Port didn't want McDonald they could have Sydneys pick 9 this year but they could also have the Swans future 1st.

Port have the money to pay Butters. They’ll match a bid next year, so the trade offer would have to be compelling for them to trade him this year (like similarly compelling as what we would need to trade Curnow).

 

[zeeCFC]

If the Suns want a marquee player to lift them to the next level with King like Charlie, and with their history of over paying, I'd say give us Jed Walter, Jake Rogers and a 2nd rounder. Both are first rounder academy kids, but they're either played sub or in the reserves right now after a couple years in the system.