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Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

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Anyone who says yes we should go and get Curnow should need to add what they would trade for him in a deal. Because we have nothing. And we won’t be trading any established players for him

“we have nothing all of our own selections but are both unwilling to give that up for Curnow nor would Carlton accept our end of round picks for someone of his calibre under contract…also we have a lot of cap space opening up.”

Context matters when we say “nothing”

Collingwood for example actually have “nothing” in terms of cap space or capital.
 
Regarding Curnow why would we add to our forward line which is by far our strongest area by weakening other areas?

You end up with a imbalanced list like the Dogs who have mids for days and a good forward line but one of it not the worst defences in the league.

What we need to be looking at regarding recruiting is strengthening our mids/rucks after those 2 would be defence. Our forward line is by far the least important area we need to improve.

Also what Carlton would want for Curnow is certain best 22 players and picks e.g Holmes and a first or Neale and a first etc

They aren't going to trade him for our end of round picks or fringe players.
 
Things I’ll never understand

Re Curnow - Pass. He’d cost way too much…..go back and re read the Cameron thread when GWS matched the free agency bid. Half the board was melting down saying walk away immediately Geelong.

Re Curnow - Pass - We have Mollier, Polkinghorn and Whiltshire at home. I just assume that these ppl started watching footy recently.

When a player easily in the top 20 of the league wants to come to your club you run. When he’s a Key Position Forward you sprint.
Sure thing. And when Carlton demand Holmes, Dempsey and a first round pick in return, what then?

Do you just shrug, hand them all over and put your new 29yo injury-prone "top 20" KPF under your arm and head home (probably via the surgeon's office)?

If Charlie is interested in coming to Geelong, we should ABSOLUTELY engage in that conversation and do everything we reasonably can to get him down to KP. But there is a limit to how much we can and should pay.

if you think it's a good idea to blow up the core of our team for a 29yo key forward with dodgy knees who managed just 32 goals from 18 games this season, when we are already the second highest scoring team in the comp this year, then I'm gonna assume it's YOU who started watching footy recently.
 

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West Coast's 2018 team, maybe? They had J.Kennedy. Gaff and Natainui didn't play. Not sure many others would be considered top 30.
Yeah I thought of them, then I realised they also had Jeremy McGovern and Elliot Yeo, who were both at the height of their powers and would've been easily top 30 players in the league at that time.

And Gaff may have missed the GF, but he was instrumental in getting them there.
 
Are we talking about on the list, or on grand final day?

Adelaide's '97-'98 grand final sides without Modra, plus one of them was without Ricciuto (for the whole finals series). You had McLeod obviously. Top 20/30 after that, I'm not sure. Some contenders but not locks.

2005 Sydney: Hall a lock, Goodes probably although not in his very best seasons.

2012 Sydney: Josh Kennedy. Any others? Lots of good players but clear top 20/30 I'm not sure.

Collingwood 2023: the Daicos brothers (Josh had a great year but was probably borderline), then a lot of good players rather than superstars.
This pretty much proves my point.

You singled out 5 premiership teams in 30 years, and all of them had at least one top 20 player and arguably more. The other 25 premiership teams presumably had even more.
 
This pretty much proves my point.

You singled out 5 premiership teams in 30 years, and all of them had at least one top 20 player and arguably more. The other 25 premiership teams presumably had even more.
This was off the top of my head, just that a handful have one lock and maybe one or two that are debatable. There are other candidates but I wasn't out to complete a 50,000 word dissertation.

A lot of teams that miss out every year will meet this requirement too (2+ players in the top 30, or close). You might even say more teams than not each year fit the bill. So there isn't really any more of a causal link than there is having a really solid spine, amazing depth, a brilliant coach or simply finding form at the correct time.

We ran the premiers exceptionally close last year and some would argue we only had one lock in this top 20-30 range (Cameron). I would argue Holmes and Stengle were close enough, but few would have called them superstars of the comp.

It goes without saying you need some A and B graders assorted in the right combination with role players. An abundance of star power I wouldn't necessarily say is a requisite.
 
The media is finally catching on with Butters - if he leaves Port, it'll be down to Geelong or the Bulldogs (cause they're struggling for mids) as any move will be about his proximity to his family


I will find out for certain but last time I heard he was leaning towards the dogs rather than us because of money. It was substantially better than what we pay apparently.

His first choice is Geelong. I don't think we can compete unless something changes.
 
Let's blow up our tight knit young core, potentially moving on one of Neale, Dempsey, or O’Sullivan and a haul of picks, for a contracted soon to be 29-year-old with a dodgy medical history?
Let this serve as an example for young'uns playing along at home.

When your contract is up for renewal, you cherish playing for Geelong & Wellsy/Mack sound you out, that is the best time to jump. They are adept at it and have plotted a course on how best to achieve it. You then burn them off for some short-term reason (often Financial). Then, while still in the midst of a long contract, you throw in a Hail Mary to come across. You've made things astronomically more complicated for yourself & Geelong.

There are not always 2nd (or 3rd or 4th etc) chances in life. C'est la vie.
 
Turns out Ross is not the driving force behind there big moves.. but one of our own. They have a few big plays in the background at the moment that I'm not allowed to say

And Marshall is definitely gettable.
Enright? Media seems to have anointed him Ross's successor. Any truth to that? Always good to see ex-Cats flourish..
 
Turns out Ross is not the driving force behind there big moves.. but one of our own. They have a few big plays in the background at the moment that I'm not allowed to say

And Marshall is definitely gettable.
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Turns out Ross is not the driving force behind there big moves.. but one of our own. They have a few big plays in the background at the moment that I'm not allowed to say

And Marshall is definitely gettable.
Won't believe anything you say unless it's got a screenshot of a text message beginning "Hey mate, keep this to yourself, but...."
 

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Enright is driving talks with Flanders, Merritt and Butters.

They want to flick Marshall our way and use some of they get for Ryan. Leek aleer price has dropped.
Makes sense to me that they'd just play hardball for a bit with us and end up taking the best offer they can get for RoMa, then get cracking with the players they are trying to get in.
 
I will find out for certain but last time I heard he was leaning towards the dogs rather than us because of money. It was substantially better than what we pay apparently.

His first choice is Geelong. I don't think we can compete unless something changes.


If we are preference money should get taken care of , creat cap space by ,
-Guthrie -ret
-bews -ret
-duncan -ret
-Stanley -retire
-stevens -delist
-pike -delist
-Wiltshire -trade
-Clohesy -Trade
-Bruhn -???
Re - work back end any deals
 
Also what Carlton would want for Curnow is certain best 22 players and picks e.g Holmes and a first or Neale and a first etc
Players only move for picks now, not direct swaps - especially when a weaker club is selling to a stronger club. After all, who would move from Geelong to Carlton, unless they weren't getting a game here?

At the absolute most, third parties might get involved with a player. But that's it.
 
If we are preference money should get taken care of , creat cap space by ,
-Guthrie -ret
-bews -ret
-duncan -ret
-Stanley -retire
-stevens -delist
-pike -delist
-Wiltshire -trade
-Clohesy -Trade
-Bruhn -???
Re - work back end any deals
We won’t do anything with TB. Not until the case is over.

There’s some talk in the trade thread of Cam requesting an extension. Was a while ago, June-ish. Obviously only hearsay, not a fact.
 
“we have nothing all of our own selections but are both unwilling to give that up for Curnow nor would Carlton accept our end of round picks for someone of his calibre under contract…also we have a lot of cap space opening up.”

Context matters when we say “nothing”

Collingwood for example actually have “nothing” in terms of cap space or capital.

Sure but we have 2 late r1s and they wont trade him for that. They aren't picking up the phone unless we offer Holmes sdk or O'Sullivan's and we wont do that so its a waste of time a trade wont happen.
 
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