List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[projectv]

MAKE HIM CAPTAIN IMMEDIATELY

Interesting timing on this given that the club posted it 1 hour before the links to the Bulldogs offer for him.

 

[FQFjt]

This makes no sense. In what world would we consider trading Wilkie? Have the Bulldogs lost the plot or is Wilkie more open to a trade than his public statements would have us believe?

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

I don't think Wilkie is going anywhere, but there is an offer the Dogs could make that could turn our heads.

They have an AA mid factory and we have an AA defender factory.

 

[JG22]

I don't think Wilkie is going anywhere, but there is an offer the Dogs could make that could turn our heads.

?

 

[Leap of Faith]

I would nearly do Pick 10 for Wilkie and Pick 17 for Marshall (I know they would get pushed back)

If we could turn Wilkie into Flanders and keep our pick 7 and Geelongs first rounder it’s good for our list profile.

Both are contracted so if they weren’t offering their first picks no deal.

Jaysus. Pick 10 for Wilkie. He should hav been in the AA squad again this year. And you'd give him up for pick 10 that might become pick 15. No f******* way.

 

[FQFjt]

I would nearly do Pick 10 for Wilkie and Pick 17 for Marshall (I know they would get pushed back)

If we could turn Wilkie into Flanders and keep our pick 7 and Geelongs first rounder it’s good for our list profile.

Both are contracted so if they weren’t offering their first picks no deal.

FMD this might be an all time bad call.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

What would they have to give up?

Ed Richards
Aleer takes? Wilkie's spot
We get the AA midfielder

 

[stavro#4]

They have the assets even if didn't include Darcy

Humour me.

Freijah & Sanders?

 

[akaifu]

This makes no sense. In what world would we consider trading Wilkie? Have the Bulldogs lost the plot or is Wilkie more open to a trade than his public statements would have us believe?

I mean it does make sense - Wilkie is one of the best key defenders in the competition, if there's ever a hint of him being open to a move then clubs are gonna jump on

But no, we will not entertain it that's for sure

 

[projectv]

Yeah.

Sam Darcy

Throw in Libba as well. We'll just be a team of other teams F/S's in fifteen years why not?

 

[akaifu]

Humour me.

Freijah & Sanders?

Ew wtf

 

[stavro#4]

I would nearly do Pick 10 for Wilkie and Pick 17 for Marshall (I know they would get pushed back)

If we could turn Wilkie into Flanders and keep our pick 7 and Geelongs first rounder it’s good for our list profile.

Both are contracted so if they weren’t offering their first picks no deal.

Go back to bed.

 

[FQFjt]

I mean it does make sense - Wilkie is one of the best key defenders in the competition, if there's ever a hint of him being open to a move then clubs are gonna jump on

But no, we will not entertain it that's for sure

But there is not even a hint of that. As far as we have been told. It's very strange.

 

[stavro#4]

Ew wtf

I’m trying to understand who Punter thinks is the assets that gets this done.

 

[BrutThough]

 

[The Punter]

Humour me.

Freijah & Sanders?

I was thinking Freijah and Naughton would be the best offer they would make for the Doggies.

As I said, I don't think Wilkie is going anywhere but the Doggies could make us think.

 

[projectv]

I would nearly do Pick 10 for Wilkie and Pick 17 for Marshall (I know they would get pushed back)

If we could turn Wilkie into Flanders and keep our pick 7 and Geelongs first rounder it’s good for our list profile.

Both are contracted so if they weren’t offering their first picks no deal.

If we trade Wilkie we should fold as a club.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

This makes no sense. In what world would we consider trading Wilkie? Have the Bulldogs lost the plot or is Wilkie more open to a trade than his public statements would have us believe?

Surely one of their past players must’ve fathered a key back.

Best they do another stocktake at the Scragger Stud.

 

[snails13]

Waste of time this will be.

Source grapes on missing Silvagni

 

[thekizzler]

I agree we need to target a player who can play full back to replace Howard. It looks like Caminiti will be moved forward next year, so we will have a heap of 2nd-3rd defenders. We desparately need a 200cm key big bodied key defender who can handle the big power forwards. Jordan Butts from Adelaide is not getting a game might be a good pick up.

Perhaps we have some targetted in the draft?

Man, I'm tired of this opinion and argument - not just from you either.

We don't desperately need a 200cm gorilla to play on power forwards.

Sure, it would be good to have a player good enough at that height, but there is no one attainable from other clubs who are good enough.

There might be one available in the draft, but we have plenty of tall defensive options now.

If we needed a key defender, Jordon Butts (195cm by the way lol) would be a good decent pick-up - but we don't.

You just need defenders who are good enough both individually and as unit.

There are plenty of examples of teams succeeding without a 200cm defender.

Melbourne had Jake Lever (195), Steven May (193) when they won the premiership.

In 2020, Richmond had David Astbury at 195 as their tallest defender.

In 2025, Adelaide's tallest Nick Murray and Butts (195), Hawthorn's tallest is Tom Barrass (194).

Then you must consider that a lot of the 200cm defenders are more interceptors than the player to shut down a Riley Thilthorpe. This includes Harris Andrews, Darcy Moore, Mac Andrew. They aren't gorillas. They can play on monster forwards, but one on one they are going to get out bodied by them, and prefer to intercept or run and jump at the contest.

All you need is good defenders in the 190-200cm range, who are good 1-on-1 and can work effectively in a defensive unit with the others. Height doesn't really matter and is not decisive in success.

 

[heynow85]

 

[akaifu]

What would they have to give up?

Ed Richards and Cody Weightman

 

[snails13]

Source grapes on missing Silvagni

Sour grapes

 

[stavro#4]

Oh cute they are trying to play the salary cap game.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

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And probably captain next season
Although, his whinging to the media about player payments might’ve stamped that out