Review QF: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Collingwood

[dplggr47]

Good: Rankine's season is still alive.

Only if this team can get there.

 

[CrowBloke]

not only did we miss izak, his stupidity [lit] a fire under collingwood too. he ****ed us on two accounts.

We missed Rankine for sure, but I disagree, with respect. He didn't **** us on any account.
Yes, he shot his mouth off using a strictly no-no epithet and should have known better but strangely enough if he'd said "you're a c**t w***er and I ****ed your mother last night" or worse --- there is much worse possible --- he'd still be playing.
He made a mistake and has copped/ is doing his time for it.
Tonight's clobbering was not as a result of anything Rankine said or did.

Collingwood are better-coached, more experienced and made us look like amateurs with their pressure.

some of the players need to take one hell of a look at that performance and decide if thats as good as they can give, and if they want to play more than two finals.

I agree that several players folded under Collingwood pressure (at one stage in the first quarter alone I think the pressure 'gauge' was 168 to us, 265 to them (something like that) and we couldn't cope,
BUT
Nicks needs to do some serious thinking about his selections, player use and slow-to-react tactical weakness.

 

[WeeBlake]

Seemed like a prime opportunity to try Curtin in the middle. A bigger body to take on De Goey, but him going into the midfield seems to have been completely scrapped as an idea we'll try.

Or Nicks went for Keays/Laird because he's leaning back into not trusting younger players again.

Nicks is a cautious, conservative coach

 

[whitey_1975]

No one likes snitches.

 

[footy4ever]

Boo hoo Quaynor got boooooed.

Cry me a river you pissants.

Somebody call the waaaaaambulance

 

[Moonwatcher]

They took the game on and we didn’t.

We had no run.

Comprehensively out coached.

Players choked.

Awful performance

We took the game on, it's why there were so many dumb turnovers. Collingwood hit the pack much harder than us to collect the contested ball and always have players on the outside receiving. Collingwood is just so well drilled they know exactly where every team mate will be if they collect the ball.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Boy we fell over a lot

 

[Geoffa32]

Really keen to see the fightback next week.

We have seen this year this team has a decent level of resilience.

Collingwood just far superior in the big game.

 

[1990crow]

Boy we fell over a lot

Richard Douglas was brought in to give the team a rev up.

 

[ams4crows]

Keays still hasn't kicked a goal against Collingwood in his career.


The sad thing is poor Tex played well in his 300th shame only 3 other blokes played a reasonable game.

We obviously learnt nothing in the last 3 weeks where our Midfield completely broke down and the slightest bit of pressure and we couldn't execute

 

[George CantStandYa]

We took the game on, it's why there were so many dumb turnovers. Collingwood hit the pack much harder than us to collect the contested ball and always have players on the outside receiving. Collingwood is just so well drilled they know exactly where every team mate will be if they collect the ball.

No we didn’t, we continually kicked it to a contest or bombed long to one of their defenders. They ran the ball with uncontested possessions, they smashed us in that regard.

 

[Scorpus]

The worry was the football we saw tonight wasn't nerves or lack of finals experience

We played very similar football vs West Coast and North Melbourne, and in patches vs Hawthorn and Collingwood. The only difference tonight is that the bad bits went for longer and the good bits were shorter.

There was no discernible difference:
Panicky and fumbly under pressure
Resorting to panic bombs to their numbers
Cut up at ground level

For three quarters against West Coast we played some of the worst football in our club's history.

Looking less like we were taking it easy, and more like we are genuinely out of form

 

[PerthBoy86]

Very disappointing, I feel almost as flat as if we lost, but when I think about it it wasn't that surprising. Pies were just more experienced, well coached and polished, actually came with a gameplan, whereas your boys seemed overawed by the occasion/their pressure, and made a lot of poor decisions. They seldom seem to get smashed in finals either. Considering where you've come it's great to just get some experience/learnings from it. Hopefully Nicks and rhe coaching staff and the players play smarter. This year might not be your year (though who knows), but no reason you can't challenge the next few years.

The loud booing of Quaynor wasn't a good look but imo they're making a mountain over it, as the media played up the whole drama and 'rivalry' the whole week. It's all about entertainment.

Good luck going forward. If it's not Adelaide, I just hope it's not Collingwood or Geelong again.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Well it's nice to see we went from the darlings of the AFL to the absolute scum of the earth villains in about 3 weeks. Tomorrow is going to be a shit show.

Thanks Izak

 

[footy4ever]

The defining moment of the game.

Filthy...love the guy... but FMD that sloppy cross ground and turnover killed our momentum and we were already having a very ordinary night. I knew we'd blown it then.

 

[Moonwatcher]

No we didn’t, we continually kicked it to a contest or bombed long to one of their defenders. They ran the ball with uncontested possessions, they smashed us in that regard.

We turned the ball over trying to switch play a lot. Collingwood's handball game was impressive but that doesn't mean kicking isn't taking the game on.

 

[Samcro24]

Kicked to Moore all ****ing night.

 

[Moonwatcher]

The defining moment of the game.

Filthy...love the guy... but FMD that sloppy cross ground and turnover killed our momentum and we were already having a very ordinary night. I knew we'd blown it then.

It triggered a period of play where Collingwood scored 47 to 2.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Kicked to Moore all ****ing night.

Need to be smarter than that. Who was it in the last quarter that ignored Cumming in the forward 50 and kicked it to Moore instead?

 

[pjcrows]

Seemed like a prime opportunity to try Curtin in the middle. A bigger body to take on De Goey, but him going into the midfield seems to have been completely scrapped as an idea we'll try.

Or Nicks went for Keays/Laird because he's leaning back into not trusting younger players again.

Curtin looked absolutely spent by the second quarter. He could barely get out of a gallop. The kid is tired.

 

[BRL121]

Had Cumming available for an easy chip inside 50 but decided to blaze away as if he was still 25.

I can forgive Thilthorpe for his **** up, but when one of the guys who is supposed to provide experience does that then that’s unforgivable.

Yes, but the game was over.

 

[arsene wenger1]

I’ve heard nicks reiterate recently his importance on defence. Defence wins finals. Defence defence defence. He’s gone too far now. We’ve forgotten how to move the ball effectively

 

[Moonwatcher]

Pedlar kicked 3. Was surprised by the negativity around his selection in the absence of Rankine and Rachele.

 

[cleanhands]

The media are to blame for the booing, the over the top attention on Rankine is where the blame lays

 

[relapse]

That coaching/preparation from McRae, that leadership from Moore and Sidebottom, and that pure control of a game from midfielders is where we need to get to. It's been a fun season, there is next week, and we're closer to the start of the overall journey than the end, but at times like this it feels like we're miles away.

A midfield monstering from the bounce. They straight-lined every contest, we fiddled at the edges. Collingwood have been preparing for tonight since about May.

Meanwhile we've got Nicks trying to outsmart himself with mind games for a 21 year old coming back from injury, and Laird at first half stoppages.

Absolutely nailed it

All year we've scraped by relying on Dawson and a crop of honest triers in the middle.

Unfortunately it doesn't cut it when the stakes are lifted in the finals and we don't have the cream to rise to the top.

We were out coached and out played by a classier team. That's the level where we need to strive to be.