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Since Ablett Jnr, who have been the most 'freakishly' talented players on our list?

I mean the types of players who can do shit that others just can't. The Betts / Daicos / Rioli types?

Dempsey is starting to look like he might join that list. That toe poke goal of his really was nuts.

Until his knee exploded for me it was Dan Menzel and then Miers (who else makes that pass from the boundary to the goal square like he did in the PF last year).
And now Dempsey.
 
I'd put the conflict of interest aside for one moment and think about whether Leigh Matthews should ever be given the microphone and allowed to talk about behind the play incidents. Sorry, but whilst the bloke might have been an outstanding player, he was lucky to ever be allowed back on the football field again after the incident I'm referring to. There were plenty of people at the time pushing for a criminal conviction.

Sorry Lethal - great player and coach but credibility is hanging by a thread.

All too true, yet definitely not the calibre of player that would isolate the ump to whinge, and then flop.
Preferred the sneaky king hit. He's got the bear blinkers on here.
 

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Fair call.

I'm just a little too young to have seen him at his peak. By all accounts a superstar. I only saw him at the end of his career when he was taking out behind posts and red-headed Cats 70m behind play. That remains to this day arguably the second worst act of thuggery in VFL/AFL history (or at least in the last 60 years).
I was at that game and happened to see it live
Don't believe it was specifically aimed at Bruns
Ball had just been cleared from center area
Mathews had just copped a hip to the head
Bruns just happened to be jogging bye unaware
Mathews swung in frustration not premeditated.
Looked much worse on TV due to behind play

Injuries happen when players caught unaware
Similar incident with Ball cleared from centre
Same oval exact same spot on the oval
John Barnes was running forward unaware
Stephen Kernahan intentionally swung the boot
The trip Resulted in a severe injured ankle

Also witnessed John Howat KO John Barnes
At kick in, Barnes was 55m out, Punt Rd wing
He turned, saw he was all alone, waived for ball
Jon Howat raced from bench at full speed
Barnes blindsided turned head. Shoulder met jaw.
Similar shoulder hit as Tom Stewart on Dion Prestia

Have been numerous vicious hits over the years
Most were from frustration and going hard at ball
Few were premeditated paybacks...
Like Dunstall KO Hinkley at Waverley Park.

Been watching since Polly and Wade graced the oval.
Have zero recollection of any Cat Thuggery... ZERO.

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I was at that game and happened to see it live
Don't believe it was specifically aimed at Bruns
Ball had just been cleared from center area
Mathews had just copped a hip to the head
Bruns just happened to be jogging bye unaware
Mathews swung in frustration not premeditated.
Looked much worse on TV due to behind play

Was at game myself Heckler: and was close to the incident and it's incorrect what you are saying. Leigh Matthews deliberately king hit Neville Bruns as he trotted by past him of which wasn't unusual as 'Lethal' had king hit others during his career, including Peter Giles from Melbourne who I'd spoken to many years after the incident and he was still 'livid' of Leigh Matthews king hitting him and breaking his jaw..... reckoned it was the dirtiest act he'd ever experienced in football. The Neville Bruns, Peter Giles and the Jim O'Dea king hit on John Greening incident at Moorabbin would be the dirtiest and worst king hit's I've seen in football and Alan Jeans coincidentally happened to be the coach of the side that the players did the king hitting which wasn't unusual with Alan Jeans coached sides, just refer to Carl Dietrich, Leigh Matthews, Dippa, Dermott Brereton, etc..... it was a low-life dirty tactic of his.

Allan Jeans and Peter McKenna heated discussion in 1985
 
Been watching since Polly and Wade graced the oval.
Have zero recollection of any Cat Thuggery... ZERO.

What we did to Richmond in Round 6, 2007 was pure violence.

The late, great (caller) and at time young Clinton Grybas...... "a mauling is unfolding"


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Since Ablett Jnr, who have been the most 'freakishly' talented players on our list?

I mean the types of players who can do shit that others just can't. The Betts / Daicos / Rioli types?

Dempsey is starting to look like he might join that list. That toe poke goal of his really was nuts.
Dangerfield, Menzel, Motlop and Cameron are the most naturally talented players I have seen on the list who debuted after the Ablett era. Dempsey is right up there though in terms of pure athletic ability though. It's like Jeremy Howe, just a matter of time till he gets MOTY.
 
I was at that game and happened to see it live
Don't believe it was specifically aimed at Bruns
Ball had just been cleared from center area
Mathews had just copped a hip to the head
Bruns just happened to be jogging bye unaware
Mathews swung in frustration not premeditated.
Looked much worse on TV due to behind play
Was at game myself Heckler: and was close to the incident and it's incorrect what you are saying. Leigh Matthews deliberately king hit Neville Bruns as he trotted by past him of which wasn't unusual as 'Lethal' had king hit others during his career
Nan and Pop were at that game. Nan later told me that it was the most unsettling and unpleasant experience at a game of footy she'd seen - that the violence all over the field was disconcerting, the crowd just went ugly-silent for the last quarter, and they felt unsafe at the footy for the first and last time.

Lethal claims that Bruns just happened to be in the way at the wrong time as such; a mate of a family member got to know Nev after he retired in north-east Melbourne, however, and says that after a couple of drinks, Nev might have dropped that he said something about Leigh's missus...

Probably worth dropping in here that Bruns had a reputation as a sniper, too.
 
Nan and Pop were at that game. Nan later told me that it was the most unsettling and unpleasant experience at a game of footy she'd seen - that the violence all over the field was disconcerting, the crowd just went ugly-silent for the last quarter, and they felt unsafe at the footy for the first and last time.
Wasn't that the match where GAS got suspended for time wasting?
 

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Yeates on Brereton, in a similar vein...
That one was a well executed hip & shoulder.

Yes, he lined him up and yes, it was off the ball. But he came at him from side on and all the impact was to the body - no broken jaws, smashed noses or cracked skulls to be seen.

It only hurt Brereton as much as it did because he didn't see Yeates until the last second and didn't have time to fully brace himself.

Matthews on the other hand was a roundhouse fist to Bruns' head from behind, miles off the ball and with no warning. Effectively a coward's punch. Massive difference.
 
Darren Milburn on Silvagni is the most obvious one that comes to mind, that was really ugly. Ablett Sr and Buddha weren't choirboys on that front, either.
Yeah, I think ugly was the right word with the Milburn-Silvagni one.

At least it was contesting the ball, but Dasher's decision to jump, go past the ball and collect a wide open player in the head with his hip was not a good one. I thought he might not make it out of the ground that day!
 
That one was a well executed hip & shoulder.

Yes, he lined him up and yes, it was off the ball. But he came at him from side on and all the impact was to the body - no broken jaws, smashed noses or cracked skulls to be seen.
It wasn't just the one hit though - he goes at Brereton again when he's down, just the Channel 7 feed doesn't show it.
 

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Love this explanation from Daniel Hoyne on how flexible we are, how we ran 11 players through defence and attack, and how that allows us the play a tagger without breaking down our system.


Thanks for that. I only caught the tail end last night.
There was something else that was on radio. It might have been Saturday.

Think about this. Dempsey is a dead set wingman right? So thats one wing effectively taken out of player movements.
Yet at the centre bounces, 8 different players started on the wing.

All of this comes across as us being proactive everywhere.
It must be a nightmare for opposition coaches doing their planning.
 
Thanks for that. I only caught the tail end last night.
There was something else that was on radio. It might have been Saturday.

Think about this. Dempsey is a dead set wingman right? So thats one wing effectively taken out of player movements.
Yet at the centre bounces, 8 different players started on the wing.

All of this comes across as us being proactive everywhere.
It must be a nightmare for opposition coaches doing their planning.
My understanding - and I say this as someone who can't go to games much - is that he'll line up on a wing, but swaps with Mannagh/Miers all the time.
 
Love this explanation from Daniel Hoyne on how flexible we are, how we ran 11 players through defence and attack, and how that allows us the play a tagger without breaking down our system.


 
Darren Milburn on Silvagni is the most obvious one that comes to mind, that was really ugly. Ablett Sr and Buddha weren't choirboys on that front, either.
Maybe I'm biased but I always felt Milburn on SOS was clumsy rather than thuggery. Milburn wasn't really a dirty sniper type.

I felt that in the moment he was genuinely torn between trying to mark, spoil, pull out, or 'make him earn it"....and in the end didn't really do any of them and just kind of crashed into SOS.
 

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