Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[Coops93]

I've watched Bailey up close and personal for 3 years.

It's not what he can do now. What he'll be doing at 23-24 is what I want him for.

Which I'm sure you also know is exactly why the Suns wont trade him.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Soooooo.

Just quickly trying to surmise today’s groin grabbingly exciting developments.

May & Stephenson suddenly loom.

…& everyone (except me) wants Charlie out.

That it???

Not everyone wants Charlie out. I don’t want him going anywhere!

 

[ctwenty1]

Soooooo.

Just quickly trying to surmise today’s groin grabbingly exciting developments.

May & Stephenson suddenly loom.

…& everyone (except me) wants Charlie out.

That it???

Not sure why you are grabbing your groin but yeah, that’s about it

 

[Stamos]

Who cares? If they want out let them go. I dont know why this is such a difficult concept.

Probably because a contract is a much easier concept to grasp.

 

[lukep_86]

It's easier to imagine Charlie running around in hoops ... than it is in red or pink.
I wouldn't underestimate Geelong's ability to get their Man if he wants to go there.

sniff sniff ... the allure of Charlie is strong down at Kardinia Park.
I'll go a lazy $fiver that Geelong end up pulling a Cat out of the bag.

Cat/dodgy property deal...same same

 

[Wickzki]

Soooooo.

Just quickly trying to surmise today’s groin grabbingly exciting developments.

May & Stephenson suddenly loom.

…& everyone (except me) wants Charlie out.

That it???

I wouldn't say everyone wants Charlie out... Some so but more are thinking along the lines of acceptance and getting the best we can put of him.

Trading him will hurt even if we get a young superstar in the making for him.

 

[Wickzki]

Which I'm sure you also know is exactly why the Suns wont trade him.

Think we have as much chance of getting Humphrey as we do Gulden.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Not sure why you are grabbing your groin but yeah, that’s about it

I'd say it has a relationship with all the Humphrey, Gulden, Walter, Blakey, Holmes etc. exchanges for Charlie fantasies.

 

[Tommy Alvin]

I think everyone has me wrong.

We need grunt. Whether that is May or Murdoch, Powell Pepper, Viney, Rowell, etc, it won’t matter. We are light. If we get an outside player like a Walsh and make them play inside, we are morons.

Cripps can’t do it alone and neither can Weitering. So we need some power so our outside players can run.

I have played and coached over 400 games and can say from experience, if I was playing Carlton, I would bully them knowing that they will physically break.

TA

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Anyone wanting May clearly hasn’t watched Melbourne games this year . Completely gone. Mods, please ban anyone that suggests he is a good fit.

His stats for this season suggest he's absolutely on par with how he performed over the last 5 or 6 seasons

 

[Red_man2008]

The same was said about Nick Haynes …

Haynes had medical issues that he was discovering how to remedy through his final few years at GWS. it’s very different. He wasn’t playing near his contract however got GWS and we got him at a great price as he’s got plenty left in him.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

I think everyone has me wrong.

We need grunt. Whether that is May or Murdoch, Powell Pepper, Viney, Rowell, etc, it won’t matter. We are light. If we get an outside player like a Walsh and make them play inside, we are morons.

Cripps can’t do it alone and neither can Weitering. So we need some power so our outside players can run.

I have played and coached over 400 games and can say from experience, if I was playing Carlton, I would bully them knowing that they will physically break.

TA

Or you could just do what almost everyone else does... spread and run rings around us...

Wait for us to butcher our i50 entry and rebound with little to no resistance...

Cover the left wing because that's where 99% of our kicks from hb go...

Apply manic f50 pressure to generate stoppages in our d50 and waltz into goals from those...

The list goes on... bashing us is literally one of the most, if not, the most inefficient way of beating us...

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Haynes had medical issues that he was discovering how to remedy through his final few years at GWS. it’s very different. He wasn’t playing near his contract however got GWS and we got him at a great price as he’s got plenty left in him.

He’s been handy enough.

But geez, he was on a wing for the last month.

..& he’s 87 years old.

Honoured with a year extension, wouldn’t expect him to be first choice.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Not a star at the time of the trade. The point is moot.

He’s literally the Walter in this scenario.

 

[Wickzki]

I havent seen him play this year, but based on stats alone, he is very much on par with what he has done for the last 5 or 6 season. Even improved stats wise over last year in some statistical categories.

He's a key defender. Who cares about his stats? This isn't Supercoach.

What about goals against?

He had more goals against him this year than he's ever had in his entire career.

 

[The Dochs in]

I think there’s a lot of over confidence re us being in the box seat with Charlie. Yes there’s examples of players coming back but there’s a lot of noise he has no interest in coming back to us. Most players who go nuclear get traded. We realistically won’t hold him to his contract if he’s mentally completely checked out.

I think we will find we will just need to take the best deal possible. Gone are the thoughts of we will need to noticeably win the trade. I fear a lot will be disappointed

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

It's easier to imagine Charlie running around in hoops ... than it is in red or pink.
I wouldn't underestimate Geelong's ability to get their Man if he wants to go there.

sniff sniff ... the allure of Charlie is strong down at Kardinia Park.
I'll go a lazy $fiver that Geelong end up pulling a Cat out of the bag.

Head over to the Cats' board, and even they've conceded that there's no chance of getting a deal done.

Right now, they're all chips in for Worpel and Marshall, so subsequently they'll have zero picks to trade, and won't want to part with any of their guns.

edit: forgot that Worpel is a RFA, so they may not have to trade for him.

 

[Treesloth]

I think there’s a lot of over confidence re us being in the box seat with Charlie. Yes there’s examples of players coming back but there’s a lot of noise he has no interest in coming back to us. Most players who go nuclear get traded. We realistically won’t hold him to his contract if he’s mentally completely checked out.

I think we will find we will just need to take the best deal possible. Gone are the thoughts of we will need to noticeably win the trade. I fear a lot will be disappointed

History says most players will do another 12 months then try again.

Don’t think Charlie would sulk too much or go nuclear if he doesn’t get his wishes but agree that we will get a better deal this year than in 2026

 

[GT619]

Geesh theres another 4 weeks of this.

 

[Benaly28]

I think there’s a lot of over confidence re us being in the box seat with Charlie. Yes there’s examples of players coming back but there’s a lot of noise he has no interest in coming back to us. Most players who go nuclear get traded. We realistically won’t hold him to his contract if he’s mentally completely checked out.

I think we will find we will just need to take the best deal possible. Gone are the thoughts of we will need to noticeably win the trade. I fear a lot will be disappointed

Has he actually said he dosent want back in?
All I’m hearing is journos guessing from day to day

 

[We may never win again]

I think there’s a lot of over confidence re us being in the box seat with Charlie. Yes there’s examples of players coming back but there’s a lot of noise he has no interest in coming back to us. Most players who go nuclear get traded. We realistically won’t hold him to his contract if he’s mentally completely checked out.

I think we will find we will just need to take the best deal possible. Gone are the thoughts of we will need to noticeably win the trade. I fear a lot will be disappointed

If the deal isn’t good enough he won’t be traded, while the situation is far from ideal he hasn’t gone nuclear to the extent Merrett has where it’s near impossible to walk back in the club, I’ve even heard albeit third hand that his camp doesn’t think a deal will be done

 

[Big Delut]

I think there’s a lot of over confidence re us being in the box seat with Charlie. Yes there’s examples of players coming back but there’s a lot of noise he has no interest in coming back to us. Most players who go nuclear get traded. We realistically won’t hold him to his contract if he’s mentally completely checked out.

I think we will find we will just need to take the best deal possible. Gone are the thoughts of we will need to noticeably win the trade. I fear a lot will be disappointed

Last year Petracca's camp were leaking stuff about potential lawsuits etc and that still ended up with him staying and getting on with it.

 

[The Dochs in]

Has he actually said he dosent want back in?
All I’m hearing is journos guessing from day to day

This type of comment always makes me laugh. Journos aren’t making shit up as a general rule. Most of the best ITK posters here wouldn’t be more informed than the journalists most hate on. There is so much smoke here I can’t fathom there not being fire.

 

[The Dochs in]

If the deal isn’t good enough he won’t be traded, while the situation is far from ideal he hasn’t gone nuclear to the extent Merrett has where it’s near impossible to walk back in the club, I’ve even heard albeit third hand that his camp doesn’t think a deal will be done

I hope so. I just think a first and Flanders for instance may well be enough for us rather than take the risk. And that’s far from what I’m wanting to be clear.

I guess what I’m saying is it all depends on what the club think is the issue and reason for him wanting out

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

I’m all for a bit of mongrel in the side….i just draw the line at blokes that put people in hospital in the off season.

Perhaps it’s one of the reasons he’s been let go?
King doesn’t want shit like that in his club, whereas the previous coach was happy to sweep it under the carpet….maybe that’s why he’s gone as well