List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

[amazingjoshy]

Incredible stats for Charlie Banfield. 28 touches & 2 goals.

Been somewhat undersold on here. At the game today, clearly best on

 

[Carbine Chaos]

If we get additional rookie list spots from the AFL we could potentially move Barnett there to create an extra spot on the main list - which hopefully we do

Surely you just pay him out, he's clearly not up to it.

 

[Keys]

Surely you just pay him out, he's clearly not up to it.

Thought we might have done that but it’s been a month since our season ended so I think if we were going to cut him we’d have done so by now - would have given him a chance to try find a new home.

Do suspect only one of Barnett or Livingstone will be on our list next year - prefer Livingstone but think it’ll be Barnett

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Thought we might have done that but it’s been a month since our season ended so I think if we were going to cut him we’d have done so by now - would have given him a chance to try find a new home.

Do suspect only one of Barnett or Livingstone will be on our list next year - prefer Livingstone but think it’ll be Barnett

We'll need wait til this week to see if the AFL decides to give us extra cat b rookie spots or not. If it doesn't happen, we'll only 7 spots to fill including the NGA kids. Will need to cut both if it it doesn't happen.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

My mock offseason
trades / compo

• 2 Extra rookie spots from the AFL
• 1 end of first round pick from the AFL
• pick 2 for Oscar Allen
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  Oscar Allen

  Age

  26

  Ht

  196cm

  Wt

  96kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.8

  2star

  K

  6.6

  3star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  3.8

  4star

  T

  2.4

  4star

  G

  1.1

  4star

  No current season stats available

  D

  8.6

  3star

  K

  5.8

  3star

  HB

  2.8

  3star

  M

  3.8

  4star

  T

  2.0

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

• pick 35 for chesser
• F2 for Liam Ryan
  1

  Liam Ryan

  Age

  29

  Ht

  181cm

  Wt

  76kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  11.3

  3star

  K

  8.6

  3star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.0

  4star

  G

  1.3

  5star

  D

  9.9

  3star

  K

  8.0

  3star

  HB

  1.9

  1star

  M

  3.3

  3star

  T

  1.6

  3star

  G

  1.3

  5star

  D

  11.4

  3star

  K

  9.0

  4star

  HB

  2.4

  3star

  M

  3.8

  4star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.6

  5star

• AFL end of first round pick traded for stacevich
• pick 19, 33, 35, STK F2 for GC pick 6

Draft
1 Willem Duursma (transition mid)
2 CDT (Ruck)
6 Dyson Sharp (inside mid)
15 Harley Barker (wing)
Match Bids on
Charlie Banfield (wing)
Wes Walley (fwd)
Kobe Evans (fwd)
Tylah Williams (fwd)

under 23s in each position
key def - Brock, Bazzo
def - ginbey, greggo, hough, harvey johnston, bo Allen (mid?)
ruck - CDT, Harry Barnett
mid - Harley, hewett, sharp, Duursma (utility?)
Wing - Harley Barker, Dewar (utility?), banfield (utility?), maric (defender?)
Fwd - Noah long, brockman, champion, Davis (wing?), Gross(mid?), newton, walley, evans, tylah W
key fwd - Archer, jobe, jack will

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Thought we might have done that but it’s been a month since our season ended so I think if we were going to cut him we’d have done so by now - would have given him a chance to try find a new home.

Do suspect only one of Barnett or Livingstone will be on our list next year - prefer Livingstone but think it’ll be Barnett

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Get Coen back to the Demons and Barnett onto full time podcasting.

 

[TheBudgies]

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Get Coen back to the Demons and Barnett onto full time podcasting.

The Coen Hate on here is excessive. He needs more time. He's on our rookie list give the kid a break.

 

[TheBudgies]

My mock offseason
trades / compo

• 2 Extra rookie spots from the AFL
• 1 end of first round pick from the AFL
• pick 2 for Oscar Allen
• pick 35 for chesser
• F2 for Liam Ryan
• AFL end of first round pick traded for stacevich
• pick 19, 33, 35, STK F2 for GC pick 6

Draft
1 Willem Duursma (transition mid)
2 CDT (Ruck)
6 Dyson Sharp (inside mid)
15 Harley Barker (wing)
Match Bids on
Charlie Banfield (wing)
Wes Walley (fwd)
Kobe Evans (fwd)
Tylah Williams (fwd)

under 23s in each position
key def - Brock, Bazzo
def - ginbey, greggo, hough, harvey johnston, bo Allen (mid?)
ruck - CDT, Harry Barnett
mid - Harley, hewett, sharp, Duursma (utility?)
Wing - Harley Barker, Dewar (utility?), banfield (utility?), maric (defender?)
Fwd - Noah long, brockman, champion, Davis (wing?), Gross(mid?), newton, walley, evans, tylah W
key fwd - Archer, jobe, jack will

You've listed CDT as a ruck for some reason. He should be listed as a Bailey Williams. (A player that does nothing but help the other team)

 

[Carbine Chaos]

The Coen Hate on here is excessive. He needs more time. He's on our rookie list give the kid a break.

I don't hate him (I want him back to the Demons, after all).

I do however question whether he's mobile enough for the AFL. I think he projects as a good WAFL player. Potentially very good at that level.

 

[Keys]

The Coen Hate on here is excessive. He needs more time. He's on our rookie list give the kid a break.

His lack of athleticism holds him back. Likes to compete and gives a full effort but at AFL level I’m not sure he’d be able to get from contest to contest over the course of a full game

That said, he’s still only 20 and only been in the AFL system for 2 years so I hope he’s retained to see what he’s like after another AFL preseason

 

[wceeaglesfan]

You've listed CDT as a ruck for some reason. He should be listed as a Bailey Williams. (A player that does nothing but help the other team)

At that point just compare sharp to clay hall

 

[Donkers]

Curtin looks like an upgrade on Jack Williams to me, and I’m a Jack Williams fan. Definitely worth a look if he’s around at our 2nd or even if we keep the hawks first potentially which will be in the 20s.

Curtin needs to lose weight and get fit and I would agree. Curtin is much more a FF whereas Jack Williams as a junior and even now is still more a CHF type even if he doesn't really have the agility for it.

 

[Donkers]

His lack of athleticism holds him back. Likes to compete and gives a full effort but at AFL level I’m not sure he’d be able to get from contest to contest over the course of a full game

That said, he’s still only 20 and only been in the AFL system for 2 years so I hope he’s retained to see what he’s like after another AFL preseason

I thought his agression might allow him to make it at AFL level, to me he just looks like a good WAFL player. He lacks athleticism and is a poor shot on goal as well in general. Bit hard to make up unless you're going to be absolutely dominant up forward.

 

[WCE777]

Curtin needs to lose weight and get fit and I would agree. Curtin is much more a FF whereas Jack Williams as a junior and even now is still more a CHF type even if he doesn't really have the agility for it.

Certainly a fall from what was a very good 2024 for Curtin.
Not sure what has happened but he can't play at AFL level with that lack of athleticism.
While JW has fallen behind Shanahan, he still provides a decent project or depth KPF with his ruck abilities.
WC will need to add another KPF in the next couple of years to replace Waterman longer term, but Curtin doesn't look it and I would certainly be looking forward to what K LeCras can offer next year, probably CHF size at the moment.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Not sure what has happened

He's been eating the whole time.

 

[WCE777]

He's been eating the whole time.

I would have thought there was more to it.
He was having an outstanding 2024 and had very good athletic ability and his brother also has those traits in spades, I don't have any insight but to go from where he was to now, seems more complex to me?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Been somewhat undersold on here. At the game today, clearly best on

Was a level above.

So was Curtin.

 

[twce13]

The Coen Hate on here is excessive. He needs more time. He's on our rookie list give the kid a break.

Hate is a stretch by you. But if you watch coen play he has limitations which are unlikely to hold him in good stead at AFL level.

In the past we have held onto players who clearly won’t make it at AFL level for at too long.

Major list churn is a necessary evil for a rebuilding team.

 

[beatlesmith]

I would have thought there was more to it.
He was having an outstanding 2024 and had very good athletic ability and his brother also has those traits in spades, I don't have any insight but to go from where he was to now, seems more complex to me?

IIRC someone on here mentioned that he had a health issue behind the scenes that might have hampered his fitness?

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Speaking of NGA's whatever happened to Jake Caton? Seems like he's been completely out of consideration since pretty early in the season.

 

[TheBudgies]

Hate is a stretch by you. But if you watch coen play he has limitations which are unlikely to hold him in good stead at AFL level.

In the past we have held onto players who clearly won’t make it at AFL level for at too long.

Major list churn is a necessary evil for a rebuilding team.

Churn for the sake of it doesn't improve things. He could be a legitimate ruck if he can get a little bigger. Rucks take time, especially the less mobile ruckman. He wont be Gawn but could see him being Reily O'Brien or something if given time. He's 20 and lots has to go right but he seems to have the grit and heart that we need. He also seems to have a reasonable footy IQ and gets into good positions on the regular. He regularly forced repeat entries to forward 50 from clearing kicks this year.

 

[twce13]

Churn for the sake of it doesn't improve things. He could be a legitimate ruck if he can get a little bigger. Rucks take time, especially the less mobile ruckman. He wont be Gawn but could see him being Reily O'Brien or something if given time. He's 20 and lots has to go right but he seems to have the grit and heart that we need. He also seems to have a reasonable footy IQ and gets into good positions on the regular. He regularly forced repeat entries to forward 50 from clearing kicks this year.

I’m not doubting his heart, I like the way he goes about it.

But at 199cm he is undersized to be a ruckman and his lack of athleticism is a bad combo with that height.

 

[Dark Sharks]

The Coen Hate on here is excessive. He needs more time. He's on our rookie list give the kid a break.

Who exactly on here is hating on Livingstone?

 

[Avalor]

Speaking of NGA's whatever happened to Jake Caton? Seems like he's been completely out of consideration since pretty early in the season.

Caton, isn't he in next year's NGAs - the 2026 crop, along with Kenh.