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Campbell was our most important forward.

Yes Lynch was probably the most important KPF. But our young KPFs did incredibly well given their age.

Have a good life.
Important yes.

The peanut above states reliant. yet ignore the facts the of our 5 wins, Lynch didnt play in 2 and only contributed 5 goals total.

Maybe I am confused, maybe he means we were reliant on Lynch to lose not win?
 
Sorry….. I couldn’t make that out as your head is buried in sand

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Structurally to our fwd line Lynch was the most important piece, I dont think Richmond even with Lynch have good enough key fwds to be reliant on one or another for a scoring output, was he the best key fwd yes.
If you want to say we were reliant on Lynch to take the best key fwd to free up the younger fwds I'll happily accept that.
You also need to take into consideration that our highest score we kicked for the year was without him.
 
I'm not sure what is wrong with saying Lynch was important this season and next. One proper year into a rebuild, and with 3-4 young key forwards in the pipeline, who all showed something, it's about normal for a bottom side.

But there is reason for optimism because young high draft forwards may take a bit of time to come on, but by the second/third year they can do some damage. There are plenty under 22 doing it right now.

All forwards rely on midfielders to feed them, and Richmond's didn't. That will change a bit next year as our Lalor, Hotton, McAuliffe, Smillie and 2 top 5 mids from this draft start to impact. North's mids are leading their charge, and that should happen to Richmond in 2026/7. We certainly can't do any worse in the midfield than we did this year. Our forwards will surely appreciate some more quality coming out of the middle. (If you hadn't noticed, Taranto and Hopper can't kick.)

Nank is still vital, Vlastuin had his best season possibly, Broad who is still pretty good, so 3 players other than Lynch. Every club has that, most double that at least. Not sure why anyone wants to single our Richmond as being overly reliant on age when we would be down the bottom of the ladder for players over 30. Collingwood has 10-12 best 22 or close to it, Geelong 9.
 

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I'm not sure what is wrong with saying Lynch was important this season and next. One proper year into a rebuild, and with 3-4 young key forwards in the pipeline, who all showed something, it's about normal for a bottom side.

But there is reason for optimism because young high draft forwards may take a bit of time to come on, but by the second/third year they can do some damage. There are plenty under 22 doing it right now.

All forwards rely on midfielders to feed them, and Richmond's didn't. That will change a bit next year as our Lalor, Hotton, McAuliffe, Smillie and 2 top 5 mids from this draft start to impact. North's mids are leading their charge, and that should happen to Richmond in 2026/7. We certainly can't do any worse in the midfield than we did this year. Our forwards will surely appreciate some more quality coming out of the middle. (If you hadn't noticed, Taranto and Hopper can't kick.)

Nank is still vital, Vlastuin had his best season possibly, Broad who is still pretty good, so 3 players other than Lynch. Every club has that, most double that at least. Not sure why anyone wants to single our Richmond as being overly reliant on age when we would be down the bottom of the ladder for players over 30. Collingwood has 10-12 best 22 or close to it, Geelong 9.
The argument was we relied on Lynch not that he was important.
 
The argument was we relied on Lynch not that he was important.
Sort of semantics. Rely on or important...

Agree with what you said earlier in that he was average but for a few good games, but he was still a focal point, so drew the best backs etc. So not exactly reliant as you say, but handy.

I wasn't expecting much after pretty much 2 years out, but the way he finished the year however was encouraging, moved the best he had all year, so if he gets a full preseason he could easily be better next season. He is only 7 months older than Jeremy Cameron who is still going okay.
 
WC just offered 6 years to Starcevic 😂

Lets just exclude WC from this thread from now on, some how, years into a rebuild, they are searching, nay, desperate, to remain shit or potentially, if at all possible, shitter.
I’m not sure if he’s their biggest need.
They have Baker, Bo Allan, Duggan and Maric all playing that floating half back role. And some could argue Hough is best down back as well but they are short through the middle.

If I were them I’d be prioritising a key defender, a ruck, an experienced clearance mid and a small forward over Starcevich.
 
I’m not sure if he’s their biggest need.
They have Baker, Bo Allan, Duggan and Maric all playing that floating half back role. And some could argue Hough is best down back as well but they are short through the middle.

If I were them I’d be prioritising a key defender, a ruck, an experienced clearance mid and a small forward over Starcevich.
If you can please point us in the direction of quality key defender, a ruck, an experienced clearance mid and a small forward that want to join us that would be great.

If we find those that want to join we'll get them in.
 
I’m not sure if he’s their biggest need.
They have Baker, Bo Allan, Duggan and Maric all playing that floating half back role. And some could argue Hough is best down back as well but they are short through the middle.

If I were them I’d be prioritising a key defender, a ruck, an experienced clearance mid and a small forward over Starcevich.
rumor is he wants to be a mid?
 
I’m not sure if he’s their biggest need.
They have Baker, Bo Allan, Duggan and Maric all playing that floating half back role. And some could argue Hough is best down back as well but they are short through the middle.

If I were them I’d be prioritising a key defender, a ruck, an experienced clearance mid and a small forward over Starcevich.
Starcevich is a very good player. If West Coast can get him out of Brisbane for their end of first round charity pick that’d be a great get for them imo. Any other team besides Brisbane (and probably the Suns and Giants) would and should be demanding more.
 

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So Richmond are irrefutably ahead of West Coast, considering that the Eagles need charity picks and Richmond don't.

Probably not ahead of North, but will fly past them if North don't finally rise up the ladder next year.
 
I feel like it will click for North over the next 18 months. Richmond have done a fantastic job of getting young talent in though.
Richmond have done well. But, their best and fairest is tonight - I would be willing to bet the top 5 will be players that all need to be replaced very soon.

North are well ahead of the other two.
 
Richmond have done well. But, their best and fairest is tonight - I would be willing to bet the top 5 will be players that all need to be replaced very soon.

North are well ahead of the other two.
Will be a very similar result to ours from last year, I imagine. All senior players, maybe a kid like Trainor to sneak into the top 5 like Hough did.
 
I would guess Vlastuin wins it, Broad, Taranto and Nankervis will all be top 5.
Fair call, and probably Hopper rounding out the quintet.

Our 23-26 year olds are conspicuously sub-par, with the bulk of Tigers supporters faith in the current crop recruited from 2021-2024 (and our two very early picks this year).

Hence we are well behind North, and should at least be significantly behind the Eagles too - not entirely convinced on that latter one though.
 

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