List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[stinger05]

Can't for the life of me understand that we couldn't had made a move for Riedy, dude got traded for a packet of chips. He would have been our number 1 ruck.

 

[Hasselhough]

Ok. 100% discussion in good faith here.
There’s no threat from Brisbane to reduce Allen’s offer. Our offer has been the same from day one to Allen.

Nor would Brisbane match your offer to Starcevich if you lodged it. Our list manager has made it very clear that we will not pay that type of money for Starcevich. We have a strict wage structure in place, where pretty much every player on our list has take “unders” for us to remain competitive.


Brisbane’s concern is if we lodge the Allen paperwork first, West Coast can the turn around, wait for the compensation to be granted, then say, “we are only going to offer pick 37 for Starcevich, it’s take it or we walk him to the PSD”.

So our actions are trying to guard against the very scenario quite a few here have said is exactly what they wish your club would do.

The one concern I have, is that our offer to Allen is similar to contracts that have triggered Band 2 compensation this trade period, so we are reliant on the AFL massaging your compensation up to Band 1.


You can jump over to the Lions list management thread and read what I’ve posted there, and you’ll see I don’t take a “side” in these types of discussions. I look at every club and trade through, what I believe is, a pragmatic view.

The fact you say that players need to take less to stay makes me think Allen's offer isn't worth band 1 .

Who is in charge of massaging the compo your old CEO Greg Swan.

So if Brisbane don't get what they want or we protest on the under handed tactics it falls to your ex CEO to sort it out .

**** Brisbane

 

[amazingjoshy]

Can't for the life of me understand that we couldn't had made a move for Riedy, dude got traded for a packet of chips. He would have been our number 1 ruck.

Hes no better than Flynn. Pointless

 

[MaxHunt]

If we have 2 5 6 7

2 Sharp

Now the tigers have to consider CDT, which leaves one of Robey or Taylor

5 cumming
6 Shubert
7 Robey farrow Taylor

So 2 if the best mids and the best key.
And with our fourth selection we take a risk with the local boy, the draft bolter or another defender.

I have read on other boards that the Tigers are keen on Grlj

 

[Obeanie1]

Also in good faith, how does dragging it out change this equation? Free agency ends before the trade period. I don't really follow how Brisbane are guarding against anything here in a realistic sense.

All over 350 -500 points?

That's what the Lions are holding out for here.

We bid 1 or 2 on Annable and we wipe out those points.

That's all the Lion's need to work out and stop being dicks.

They already know this. But are being dicks.

 

[Mop]

All over 350 -500 points?

That's what the Lions are holding out for here.

We bid 1 or 2 on Annable and we wipe out those points.

That's all the Lion's need to work out and stop being dicks.

They already know this. But are being dicks.

Correct me if I’m wrong briztoon but trying to force a trade diluting your points pool is surely net loss for Brisbane if this goes pear shaped

 

[amazingjoshy]

Ok. 100% discussion in good faith here.
There’s no threat from Brisbane to reduce Allen’s offer. Our offer has been the same from day one to Allen.

Nor would Brisbane match your offer to Starcevich if you lodged it. Our list manager has made it very clear that we will not pay that type of money for Starcevich. We have a strict wage structure in place, where pretty much every player on our list has take “unders” for us to remain competitive.


Brisbane’s concern is if we lodge the Allen paperwork first, West Coast can the turn around, wait for the compensation to be granted, then say, “we are only going to offer pick 37 for Starcevich, it’s take it or we walk him to the PSD”.

So our actions are trying to guard against the very scenario quite a few here have said is exactly what they wish your club would do.

The one concern I have, is that our offer to Allen is similar to contracts that have triggered Band 2 compensation this trade period, so we are reliant on the AFL massaging your compensation up to Band 1.


You can jump over to the Lions list management thread and read what I’ve posted there, and you’ll see I don’t take a “side” in these types of discussions. I look at every club and trade through, what I believe is, a pragmatic view.

Clarkes basically already said 23 is about right for Starcevich. The hold up would be negotiating around the edges. Brissys asking for 16 and WC has said no so they're likely working on what else needs to happen to make both parties happy

Allen's deal is either Band 1 or not. The AFLs not "massaging" anything. If its not Brissys access to Annable get much much harder

 

[SAweagle]

I really think some of you would be better served supporting one of those Saudi teams that just buy a trophy every year. There’s 18 clubs trying to do what’s best for them, it’s day one of an incredible tedious period, farken relax campaigners.

“Oh but Clarke is a really weak negotia…”

Great. Will melting about it for weeks (following the months of pre melts) make you feel any better if he does shit the bed? No? So save yourself the time and just have a breather.

Nobody is on the other side of this Pick 16 issue, we don’t need 1000 posts a day about how it would be a bad deal or how he only said it was off the table but he didn’t do it while flipping off the Brisbane manager and firing a machine gun in the air so therefore he’s gonna cave. heck me. Harden up.

See you tomorrow.

Might be time to change your sheets big fella

 

[Coasters7]

I don’t think that’s the issue at all. The Lions are asking for pick 16 that’s the issue.

Also makes little difference if that’s the case because they’ll have to lodge it before the Starcevich trade anyway if they’re playing the waiting game.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Also in good faith, how does dragging it out change this equation? Free agency ends before the trade period. I don't really follow how Brisbane are guarding against anything here in a realistic sense.

Read the panicking happening in this thread. The longer they wait the more they might be able to squeeze out of us. What's the point in not trying it on, they lose nothing

 

[ep2018]

Maybe Brisbane expect us to trade down with pick 1 or 2 and thus we cant guarantee no bids on Annable at either pick?

Hence their need for extra points with pick 16 opposed to an early 20s pick?

 

[bzparkes]

Can't for the life of me understand that we couldn't had made a move for Riedy, dude got traded for a packet of chips. He would have been our number 1 ruck.

He's shit.

 

[kane249]

Can't for the life of me understand that we couldn't had made a move for Riedy, dude got traded for a packet of chips. He would have been our number 1 ruck.

I think like Meek, he wanted to go back to Victoria

Reading what Freo fans thought of him though on the draft board and they think he's a potato, so would be a side ways move from what we have

 

[briztoon]

This would be my offer to the Lions

Pick 22 (23 after Allen) Pick 37, (38 after Allen)

for Starcevich and 43 (44 after Allen) & 46 (47 after Allen)

They get the compo pick and consolidate two of their later picks into one pick and only lose 8 points.

We obviously leave Annable alone with 1 & 2 and they delist Dev.

We then have

Pick 17 879 points
Pick 24 621 points
Pick 44 167 points
----------(1,667 points)

to offer the Suns for Pick 7 (1543 points)

We can then us Pick 47 to trade for Tyler Young.


We'll still have pick 57 as well for Banfield or Williams.

Go to the draft with 1,2,7 & 51.

Get future picks for Chesser & Ryan.

I’d 100% be on board with this for the Lions.

Suns probably want 200 or so points upgrade in a trade for their top 10 picks. And as they have mentioned, the other team would be required to take the picks in to the draft, and then it would be a Live draft night trade.

 

[Scotland]

17 plus the PP and we throw in a 3rd plus don't bid.

We bid 1 on Uwland and bid 2 on Patterson that guts their draft hand.

Would force GC to retain pick 7 to match both bids. Welcome to 2026.

This is West Coast you are talking about.

 

[Scotland]

Thread has been briztooned. Great.

 

[FatPizza]

Read the panicking happening in this thread. The longer they wait the more they might be able to squeeze out of us. What's the point in not trying it on, they lose nothing

I don't think most people in this thread are panicking? We're just pissed at Brisbane's hubris for making what should be a very simple situation overly complicated.

 

[Avalor]

Ok. 100% discussion in good faith here.
There’s no threat from Brisbane to reduce Allen’s offer. Our offer has been the same from day one to Allen.

Nor would Brisbane match your offer to Starcevich if you lodged it. Our list manager has made it very clear that we will not pay that type of money for Starcevich. We have a strict wage structure in place, where pretty much every player on our list has take “unders” for us to remain competitive.


Brisbane’s concern is if we lodge the Allen paperwork first, West Coast can the turn around, wait for the compensation to be granted, then say, “we are only going to offer pick 37 for Starcevich, it’s take it or we walk him to the PSD”.

So our actions are trying to guard against the very scenario quite a few here have said is exactly what they wish your club would do.

The one concern I have, is that our offer to Allen is similar to contracts that have triggered Band 2 compensation this trade period, so we are reliant on the AFL massaging your compensation up to Band 1.


You can jump over to the Lions list management thread and read what I’ve posted there, and you’ll see I don’t take a “side” in these types of discussions. I look at every club and trade through, what I believe is, a pragmatic view.

And pick 37 is the right pick for Starcevich given his concussion frailty.

 

[Cuzz09]

 

[ballsohard]

Brisbane’s concern is if we lodge the Allen paperwork first, West Coast can the turn around, wait for the compensation to be granted, then say, “we are only going to offer pick 37 for Starcevich, it’s take it or we walk him to the PSD”.

I think this is what is happening also, but what's the plan come Friday afternoon?
The free agency period ends before the trade period does, the only logic I see is Brisbane are threatening to offer a deal that isn't band 1.

Whole situation seems a bit silly really.

 

[briztoon]

I don’t think that’s the issue at all. The Lions are asking for pick 16 that’s the issue.

West Coast offered their second round pick.

West Coast made their offer first. We the put in a counter offer.

 

[lusheslewis]

West Coast offered their second round pick.

West Coast made their offer first. We the put in a counter offer.

Our second round pick or Hawk's second round pick?

 

[Obeanie1]

This is West Coast you are talking about.

Don said we would use every lever to improve.

Will be very surprised if we don't do a pick swap with Gold Coast.

 

[Hasselhough]

Also in good faith, how does dragging it out change this equation? Free agency ends before the trade period. I don't really follow how Brisbane are guarding against anything here in a realistic sense.

They are guarding against allen not being band 1 and we match .

If we match they then say we trade starcivich for allen and we have no option to get starcivich as a free agent as the window has closed

 

[briztoon]

Also in good faith, how does dragging it out change this equation? Free agency ends before the trade period. I don't really follow how Brisbane are guarding against anything here in a realistic sense.

No idea.

Why didn’t West Coast offer the compensation pick in the initial negotiations?

It should be an easy trade.

But both clubs are posturing for what ever reason.