List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II [Spargo ✅ Maley->Adelaide✅]

giantroo · Sep 22, 2025

Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team	FA /Trade?	Compo
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA	Round One selection (currently #10)
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #22)
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA	No Compo
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #21)
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA	End of Round Two selection (currently pick #42)
James Worpel	Hawthorn	Geelong	RFA	End of Round Two selection (currently #43)
Liam Reidy	Fremantle	Carlton	Trade	CARL:Liam Reidy,R3(54),R4 (72) FRE: R3(51), R4(69)
Malcolm Rosas Jnr	Gold Coast	Sydney	Trade	GC: R3(52), R4(70) SYD: Malcolm Rosas Jnr, R3(63)
Sam Flanders	Gold Coast	St Kilda	Trade	GC: R1(7) STK: Sam Flanders
Judd McVee	Melbourne	Fremantle	Trade	MELB: R1(23) FRE: Judd McVee
Brandon Starcevich	Brisbane	West Coast	Trade	WC: Brandon Starcevich 37 Brandon Starcevich Age 26 Ht 188cm Wt 90kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 9.2 2 K 6.5 3 HB 2.6 2 M 2.8 3 T 2.0 4 MG 185.3 3 D 9.5 2 K 7.3 3 HB 2.3 2 M 3.6 4 T 2.1 3 MG 187.9 3 D 8.6 3 K 5.4 2 HB 3.2 3 M 1.4 2 T 1.8 4 MG 181.2 3 , R1(12), R2(33), R3(52) BRIS: R1(16) R1(22),R3(44),R3(50) FRE: R1(19), R2(23),R3(46)
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA	Round one selection (currently #2)
Liam Ryan	West Coast	St Kilda	Trade	WC: 2026 R2 Pick(Tied to STK) STK: Liam Ryan 1 Liam Ryan Age 29 Ht 181cm Wt 76kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 11.3 3 K 8.6 3 HB 2.7 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.0 4 G 1.3 5 D 9.9 3 K 8.0 3 HB 1.9 1 M 3.3 3 T 1.6 3 G 1.3 5 D 11.4 3 K 9.0 4 HB 2.4 3 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 4 G 1.6 5 , 2027 R3 Pick(tied to WCE)
Max Heath	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	STK: 2027 R4 Pick(tied to Melb) MEL: Max Heath
Brody Mihocek	Collingwood	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: Brody Mihocek 41 Brody Mihocek Age 32 Ht 192cm Wt 99kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 11.9 3 K 8.2 3 HB 3.7 3 M 5.3 5 T 2.0 4 G 1.6 5 D 8.4 2 K 6.3 3 HB 2.1 2 M 4.3 4 T 1.9 3 G 1.7 5 D 10.2 3 K 6.4 3 HB 3.8 3 M 4.6 5 T 1.8 4 G 1.6 5 , R4(71) COL: R3(61), 2026 R3 selection (tied to Melbourne)
Ben Ainsworth	Gold Coast	Carlton	Trade	CARL: Ben Ainsworth 9 Ben Ainsworth Age 27 Ht 178cm Wt 77kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 14.1 4 K 8.1 3 HB 6.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.7 4 G 0.7 4 D 12.8 3 K 8.3 3 HB 4.5 3 M 4.0 4 T 2.3 3 G 1.0 4 D 13.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 6.8 5 M 3.8 4 T 3.4 5 G 0.6 3 GC: R2(29) via Port
Corey Durdin	Carlton	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Corey Durdin, 2026 R2(tied to Carlton) CARL: R4(67)(via Port)
Campbell Chesser	West Coast	Carlton	Trade	WC: R2(41) CARL: Campbell Chesser
Tylar Young	Richmond	West Coast	Trade	WC: Tylar Young RIC: R2(38)
Pick Swap	GWS	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: R1(14) & R2(37) GWS: R1(12)
Will Brodie	Fremantle	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Will Brodie 17 Will Brodie Age 27 Ht 190cm Wt 89kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 19.0 5 K 8.2 3 HB 10.8 5 M 3.1 3 T 4.9 5 CL 4.1 5 D 14.0 3 K 4.0 1 HB 10.0 5 M 3.0 3 T 1.0 2 CL 3.0 4 D 13.8 4 K 7.4 3 HB 6.4 4 M 3.2 4 T 5.4 5 CL 2.8 5 FRE: R6(103)
Pick Swap	Collingwood	Brisbane	Trade	COL: R3 (45,56) BRIS: R3(59), 2026 R3 Pick(Tied to Melbourne)
Connor Budarick	Gold Coast	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: Connor Budarick 35 Connor Budarick Age 24 Ht 175cm Wt 75kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 10.6 3 K 6.8 3 HB 3.9 3 M 2.9 3 T 1.5 3 MG 171.3 3 D 10.6 3 K 6.8 3 HB 3.9 3 M 2.9 3 T 1.5 2 MG 171.3 3 D 10.6 3 K 6.8 3 HB 3.8 3 M 2.6 3 T 2.0 4 MG 153.0 3 , R4 (70) GC: R2(37)
Jayden Laverde	Essendon	GWS	DFA	No Compo
Brayden Fiorini	Gold Coast	Essendon	Trade	ESS: Brayden Fiorini 8 Brayden Fiorini Age 28 Ht 187cm Wt 82kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 22.9 5 K 13.9 5 HB 9.1 5 M 4.7 4 T 4.0 5 CL 2.9 4 D 16.3 4 K 11.0 4 HB 5.3 3 M 4.0 4 T 1.7 3 CL 0.7 3 D 21.2 5 K 10.2 4 HB 11.0 5 M 4.6 5 T 4.2 5 CL 3.2 5 GC: 2026 R3 pick (tied to Essendon)
Ollie Florent	Sydney	Carlton	Trade	SYD: 2026 R3 (tied to Carl) CARL: Ollie Florent
Changkuoth Jiath	Hawthorn	Melbourne	Trade	MEL:Changkuoth Jiath 9 Changkuoth Jiath Age 26 Ht 185cm Wt 78kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 14.5 4 K 5.0 2 HB 9.5 5 M 3.5 4 T 2.5 4 MG 91.0 1 No current season stats available D 14.5 4 K 5.0 2 HB 9.5 5 M 3.5 4 T 2.5 4 MG 91.0 2 HAW: R3 (42), 2026 R4 (tied to Melb)
Jai Serong	Hawthorn	Sydney	Trade	SYD: Jai Serong, 2026 R4(Tied to Hawthorn HAW: 2026 R3 pick(tied to Syd)
Pick Swap	Hawthorn	Carlton	Trade	CARL: R1(9), R2(31), R2(42), R3(43) HAW: R1(10), R1 (22)
Finnbar Maley	North Melbourne	Adelaide	Trade	NTH: R3(57), 2026 R4(tied to Adelaide) ADE: Finnbar Maley, R4(64)
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan	Western Bulldogs	Gold Coast	Trade	GC: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan WB: R6(74)
Jack Buller	Sydney	Collingwood	Trade	COLL: Jack Buller , 2026 F4 (tied to Syd) SYD: 2026 R3(tied to Coll)
Jack Steele	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: Jack Steele 9 Jack Steele Age 29 Ht 187cm Wt 90kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 20.9 5 K 8.7 3 HB 12.2 5 M 3.7 4 T 6.8 5 CL 3.6 5 D 21.3 5 K 10.0 4 HB 11.3 5 M 4.0 4 T 5.8 5 CL 4.6 5 D 16.8 4 K 5.0 2 HB 11.8 5 M 2.6 3 T 6.4 5 CL 3.6 5 STK: 2027 R3 Pick
Clayton Oliver	Melbourne	GWS	Trade	GWS: Clayton Oliver 13 Clayton Oliver Age 28 Ht 189cm Wt 88kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 27.8 5 K 9.5 4 HB 18.4 5 M 3.2 3 T 6.3 5 CL 6.3 5 D 25.1 5 K 11.1 4 HB 14.0 5 M 3.6 4 T 5.6 5 CL 5.9 5 D 19.2 5 K 4.6 2 HB 14.6 5 M 2.0 3 T 4.4 5 CL 3.8 5 MEL: 2027 R3 Pick (tied to GWS)
Patrick Retschko	Geelong	Richmond	Trade	RICH: Patrick Retshcko GEEL: R6 (99)
Christian Petracca	Melbourne	Gold Coast	Trade	MEL: R1(7,8) 2026 R1(tied to GC), R2 (37), 2027 R3(tied to Gold Coast) GC: Christian Petracca 3 Christian Petracca Age 29 Ht 187cm Wt 94kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 19.4 5 K 9.5 4 HB 9.8 5 M 3.5 4 T 3.0 5 CL 2.5 4 D 24.4 5 K 10.4 4 HB 14.0 5 M 3.5 3 T 3.6 4 CL 3.4 4 D 19.0 5 K 7.8 3 HB 11.2 5 M 3.0 3 T 3.8 5 CL 2.0 4 , R2 (24,28), 2026 R2 pick(tied to Melbourne)
Charlie Curnow	Carlton	Sydney	Trade	CARL: Will Hayward 9 Will Hayward Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 83kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 10.6 3 K 6.6 3 HB 4.0 3 M 3.4 3 T 2.8 4 G 1.1 4 D 9.0 2 K 4.3 2 HB 4.7 3 M 2.7 3 T 2.7 4 G 0.7 4 D 9.4 3 K 6.2 3 HB 3.2 3 M 2.6 3 T 3.4 5 G 1.4 5 , R1, 2026 R1, 2027 R1(tied to Sydney) SYD: Charlie Curnow 30 Charlie Curnow Age 28 Ht 194cm Wt 94kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 13.3 3 K 9.7 4 HB 3.6 3 M 5.3 5 T 2.2 4 G 1.3 5 No current season stats available D 10.8 3 K 6.4 3 HB 4.4 4 M 3.2 4 T 1.6 4 G 0.8 4 . R2(31), (42), 2027 R2 pick(Tied to Carlton)

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Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
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chubbspeterson · Oct 8, 2025

Chip Scab1 said:
Something something "esos malditos mexicanos locos"

That's all I was able to make out from lip reading... sorry I couldn't be of more service.

Thanks. I like to think he was pretending and just muttered "Tapas...Nachos... tacos... doritos... por favor".

chubbspeterson · Oct 8, 2025

Tas said:
Top teams have good mature players, we do not and we can't attract them to the club so the best course of action is to accumulate elite quality talent whilst we get experience into the talent we have acquired.

The problem isn't taking a risk, the problem is if there is something fundamentally wrong with list management and being aware exactly where you are at and what you need to do to improve.

I think the right time to invest in the future was 2023, but our club chronically overrated where we were at and I think kept expecting us to improve just by adding list cloggers to our list.

There is going to be elite mids in every draft, it doesn't matter which drafts you pick them up in but we have just been taking anyone that is good regardless if they would gel in our setup or not. Part of what has been holding us back is the midfield doesn't gel like a proper midfield, everyone is ball hunting and we have no idea what to do after we win the ball.

It was pretty obvious to me in 2023 we weren't going to be taking any quantum leaps forward without something significant changing, and nothing did. That was the year to take a proper look at the list and where the holes were and address it.

We were given an end of first round pick for 2023 and two end of first round 2024 picks that we didn't need to trade out for players, plus our two extra rookie spots. They said they would have reviewed our 2024 picks but we were going nowhere in 2024, we wouldn't have lost them.

So what we did:

Traded 2024 pick 19 and pick 44 to Swans for Stephens and pick 25.
Traded 2024 pick 20 to GC for pick 18
Traded picks 21 and 25 to Carlton for Fisher and 17
Traded pick 65 to Richmond for Bigoa Nyuon
Traded pick 48 to Port for 2024 4th round pick

We drafted
McKercher #2
Duursma #4 (McKay compo)
Dawson #22 (Carlton trade)
Hardeman #23 (GC trade)

I am happier with the Dawson and Hardeman pickups than I am with the McKercher and Duursma ones. They are great talents but we got McKercher after knowing Tasmania was coming in soon and would be a major flight risk, we also didn't have a midfield spot for him so just left him at half-back. Duursma a great talent but we have made zero effort to integrate him into the side.

I think we should have cashed in picks 2 and 4 for later picks and get some future picks. We were linked with both Curtin and Caddy but they were out of the 2-4 range. Bulldogs paid picks 10, 17 and 2024 1st round pick in exchange for pick 4, 46, 51 and 2024 3rd round. Melbourne paid 14, 27 and 35 to move up 14 to 11. Geelong and Richmond traded their first round picks during the draft. There was scope for us to move into the Curtain and Caddy range, get some extra 2024 picks, not trade our assistance picks and still have currency for Dawson and Hardeman.

We should have Curtin, Caddy, Dawson and Hardeman plus a massive crop of picks for 2024 in the region where all the KPP talent was. We could have still taken FOS and replaced all the list cloggers for top end KPP prospects.

Trading our 2025 first round pick for pick 27 was a symptom of botching the 2023 period. We've had to shove our list full of amateur league footballers because we dropped the ball on list management. On the plus side, that act of desperation has unearthed a decent prospect in Trembath.

Had we done that we could have still picked up an elite quality mid in the 2025 draft, but pick someone that we think will gel well with what we have, even if they are not the 3rd best player of the pool. There is no point getting the best available if we have too many like them and they wont get game time.

It's been done to death, but for sure we missed a few opportunities, such as trading the JHF pick to Crows (at the time I didn't think it was a great deal but Crows stagnated the next year), shifting back with the Duursma pick with the Dees to take Curtin/COS/Caddy (would've got lucky with Tauru the next year as Dees nosedived unexpectedly), and there's a few trades we could have not done (CCJ & BGeorge, Fisher) in hindsight and we'd probably be better off. Anyway, what's done is done. At some point we need to move on and deal with the present.

chubbspeterson · Oct 8, 2025

Roosurgence said:
They might have issues trading back and getting any real value. Unless there is someone that a club absolutely wants that will be gone prior to their pick then I don’t think there will be much of a bidding war for it.

* would only be interested in getting Willem or CDT at 1 or 2, so not necessarily the Tigers picks.
Maybe Swans to get something higher for Curnow?
I can't see teams giving up 2026 picks if they think they are in the hunt for Butters.

chubbspeterson · Oct 8, 2025

King Corey said:
Shit. After seeing Freo's trading nouse think I'd be offering Brady a 5 year extension.

That's a shocker.

Yeah it's a strange one. I know they needed a pick more than 33 for McVee, but they've given up a potential shot at Jacob Farrow with pick 12, who they could've used off half back next year.
Don't know why they didn't trade up with 33, 44, 53 and/or futures for an early R2.
Maybe no teams wanted to slide back, but * or Blues could've probably used some more points with NGA kids.

DuckYeah · Oct 8, 2025

Ichiro #51 said:
I’m jumping ahead about 10 pages but I don’t have time to read through every post re: Maley. The dude can barely get boot to ball. He makes Tsatas look like Darren Jarman.

Yeah, he’s got athleticism but he can’t play footy. He has zero chance of making it as a footballer. I’m going against the opinions of people I respect on this occasion but so be it.

Spot on. He was taken from the suburban league and still looks like a suburban footballer. Trembath was taken from a suburban league and looks like a potential AFL player.

Simply with positioning without the ball, timing with the leap and kicking a football.

I like Maley, he’s a weird likeable cat, but we aren’t playing for sheep stations. If he was eligible, he would make a great category B rookie type player. Unfortunately Finbar simply isn’t good enough for a primary list spot.

Other teams looking at him would be eyeing off a rookie list soot, not a primary list position. Which is where he is at. If we could get something in trade value, i’d take it and run.

KiwiRoo · Oct 8, 2025

Im not against keeping Maley for another year. He's improved a fair bit and got some great athletic traits
sounds like other clubs are seeing this too

DuckYeah · Oct 8, 2025

KiwiRoo said:
other clubs are seeing this too

As a rookie. We aren’t able to keep him as a rookie any longer

KiwiRoo · Oct 8, 2025

DuckYeah said:
As a rookie. We aren’t able to keep him as a rookie any longer

My bad. Forgot his time was up on the rookie list.
I like the guy though. It will be interesting to see what faith the club has in him

Fart Cummings · Oct 8, 2025

kanga kanga kanga said:
and now i’ve seen it all on this board, JAKE RODGERS FOR DUURSMA

Haha ill be honest iv never seen him play! I just like throwing names out there!

No one wants my Josh Fahey from GWS

The Nostradamus · Oct 8, 2025

DuckYeah said:
As a rookie. We aren’t able to keep him as a rookie any longer

Wrong you can be on the rookie list for 3 years

This year is his second

We can keep Finnbar for one more year on the rookie list

Or if we want we can promote him to the senior list now or in a years time

DuckYeah · Oct 8, 2025

The Nostradamus said:
Wrong you can be on the rookie list for 3 years

This year is his second

We can keep Finnbar for one more year on the rookie list

Or if we want we can promote him to the senior list now or in a years time

Then a rookie spot is fine. I thought his time was done. Definitely not good enough for a primary list spot

DuckYeah · Oct 8, 2025

KiwiRoo said:
My bad. Forgot his time was up on the rookie list.
I like the guy though. It will be interesting to see what faith the club has in him

Apparently I was out by a year. Allegedly can be rookied for one more year

hoffseason gains 01 · Oct 8, 2025

My Left Foote said:
How so hoffseason gains 01, how do we get involved and with whom

West Coast, Essendon and North are only 3 teams in my opinion that at this point could trade up using 2nd round capital (maybe Melbourne after Petracca/McVee/Oliver trades). Now West Coast has already gone and traded their second round capital out. I think if we were to trade up it would be with Carlton who are expecting a Dean bid. The ? Is who would it be worth trading up for and what do we give up. Again this is all just my opinion.

Dinkers · Oct 8, 2025

The Nostradamus said:
Wrong you can be on the rookie list for 3 years

This year is his second

We can keep Finnbar for one more year on the rookie list

Or if we want we can promote him to the senior list now or in a years time

We're pretty farked but not that farked.

The Nostradamus · Oct 8, 2025

The difference between rookie and senior list now is next to nothing

Both get to play games both get paid any amount

Really should just be one list tbh

giantroo · Oct 8, 2025

New_Roo · Oct 8, 2025

Zondor said:
What If?

Swallow comes to North and clicks his fingers and Simpkin forgets he was ever a midfielder?

:stern look

is a 33 year old Swallow better in that defenisive mid position than a 29 yr old Steele... both are stop gaps so we need to still be looking at developing someone to play that (is it Urqhuart), or do we still need to bring in that longer term option at some point...

roopdog · Oct 8, 2025

Are we really looking at Swallow? I can't find anything about it...

Passmore · Oct 8, 2025

roopdog said:
Are we really looking at Swallow? I can't find anything about it...

It appears some are getting angry about something that's not happening. Again.

Flawed Genius · Oct 8, 2025

giantroo said:

2024
Didn't have a high pick because they traded it for Liam Baker and ****ing Matt Owies. With the pick they got back they took Bo Allan

2023
#1 Reid

2022
Traded #2 for #8 & #12
#8 Ginbey
#12 Elijah Hewett

2021
Traded the #12 pick mid draft for #14 and took Campbell Chesser

2020
Didn't pick until #52 because they traded #18 as part of the Tim Kelly deal

2019
Didn't pick until #54 because they traded every pick they had for Kelly

2018
Won the flag

Twomey's tweet is horseshit. It's a good deal in isolation but it papers over them winning a flag five years ago, and also the terrible Kelly deal being the reason they didn't have many picks subsequently, and doesn't take into account Chesser failing, them bailing out of Jagga Smith to take Ginbey and Hewett (decent players).

The AFL has essentially gifted them Starcevich, and herbs and spices gets them #2 for Allen, who's crocked.

shinboner magic · Oct 8, 2025

hoffseason gains 01 said:
West Coast, Essendon and North are only 3 teams in my opinion that at this point could trade up using 2nd round capital (maybe Melbourne after Petracca/McVee/Oliver trades). Now West Coast has already gone and traded their second round capital out. I think if we were to trade up it would be with Carlton who are expecting a Dean bid. The ? Is who would it be worth trading up for and what do we give up. Again this is all just my opinion.

Hopefully to get one of small forward, kpf or rebounding half back

giantroo · Oct 8, 2025

krakouers · Oct 8, 2025

giantroo said:

Dont think that’s as bad as you were thinking King Corey

New_Roo · Oct 8, 2025

shinboner magic said:
Hopefully to get one of small forward, kpf or rebounding half back

if Whitlock is being pushed fwd, then you would think we are ok for a kpf... but defence is another issue

DocSholl · Oct 8, 2025

How dare another team get free picks

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