List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[Dr Spaceman]

Was just thinking about how many posts I’ve read over the last few years along the lines of:

“What exactly does that useless so and so Gubby Allen do at the club?”

Well if nothing else, I suppose we now know

 

[TassieSaint]

You can also have a generational draft and unluckily pick the wrong guy. It's all risk. With Flanders, there is minimal risk that he flops.

Yes and what I'm saying is if this was a generational draft, this would be a clear overpay based on what we know of Flanders and the likelihood of picking up a gun with that pick considering the probabilities. If it's an average draft I'd argue it's still an overpay. If it's a shithouse draft then I'm fine with it.

 

[Banger9798]

When did the Club employ a Boomer to work on the SM’s music?

When did the Club employ a Boomer to work on the SM’s music?

To be fair, anyone looks good with Iommi behind him

 

[snails13]

When did the Club employ a Boomer to work on the SM’s music?

Sam Flanders a good chance to have the same number (3) on his back at the Saints ?

 

[BrutThough]

Billing’s is definitely still a saints man at heart

If he wants to play VFL, we could do a lot worse than having him on the VFL list.

 

[Hayes4PM]

These campaigners on Trade Radio have spent the last 5 minutes looking at who has been drafted with pick 7 for the last 5 minutes...

 

[SainterinSydney]

These campaigners on Trade Radio have spent the last 5 minutes looking at who has been drafted with pick 7 for the last 5 minutes...

I tuned in thinking I would hear Neddy, but now I am wanting ear surgery.

 

[westernsainter]

These campaigners on Trade Radio have spent the last 5 minutes looking at who has been drafted with pick 7 for the last 5 minutes...

With Pick 7 or with what Pick 7 ended up being on draft night? Because our pick will be at the very least Pick 10 on the night.

 

[mufti15]

Might be a silly question but is there a legitimate chance we keep Marshall? Keen to see what the tdk combo looks like. Think he's worth more to us than what the cats would pay

 

[PJays]

You’d complain if we won a flag you miserable campaigner

I'll be cheering louder than anyone. Decades of pain will do that.

I'm just not convinced trading FRPs for non-elite 24 year olds is a winning strategy.

Again, I'll be very happy if I'm proven wrong.

 

[St Steady]

what was flanders back issue specifically and how does that look like moving forward

 

[AFaiL]

Sam Flanders a good chance to have the same number (3) on his back at the Saints ?

if the #3 isnt available something has gone terribly wrong

 

[AFaiL]

I'll be cheering louder than anyone. Decades of pain will do that.

I'm just not convinced trading FRPs for non-elite 24 year olds is a winning strategy.

Again, I'll be very happy if I'm proven wrong.

Who hurt you?

Have you bothered to read the post on the plethora of hacks taken with pick 7 in previous drafts? Noting this 7 becomes 10+

 

[BrutThough]

If he wants to play VFL, we could do a lot worse than having him on the VFL list.

Someone call up and tell them it will be pick 12 on draft night so they can keep the riveting conversation going.

 

[Hayes4PM]

With Pick 7 or with what Pick 7 ended up being on draft night? Because our pick will be at the very least Pick 10 on the night.

Ohhh mate, they've talked about where pick 7 ended up being, what ended up being pick 7 after bids and father sons, they've talked about players picked at 7 who ended up #7 at their clubs, they've talked about the shape of the number 7. If the number 7 is involved, these pricks have prattled on about it.

 

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That's a pretty impressive stats sheet from last year. And went to another level when moved into the middle full time.


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not sure how anyone could look at this, as a 23 year old in a stacked mid, and say hes not elite. Moved around heaps this year, stick him back where he belongs and look out. Imagine if a 23 year old that we drafted had a year like this?? we'd be losing our damn minds

 

[Nutsngum]

With Pick 7 or with what Pick 7 ended up being on draft night? Because our pick will be at the very least Pick 10 on the night.

I lost track and something tells me he also did as well.

 

[Captain Paddy]

Who hurt you?

All of our top 10 picks for an 8-10 year period after 2010

 

[snails13]

Yes and what I'm saying is if this was a generational draft, this would be a clear overpay based on what we know of Flanders and the likelihood of picking up a gun with that pick considering the probabilities. If it's an average draft I'd argue it's still an overpay. If it's a shithouse draft then I'm fine with it.

Essendon,(like the Saints) dont appear to rate it either,chasing 1 higher pick to give up on picks 5&6

 

[Cam Shenton]

Just stating a fact.

Who would you rather have delivering you the pill... Sebby or Jack Macrae?

Stephen Dank?

 

[ThomasR]

Ohhh mate, they've talked about where pick 7 ended up being, what ended up being pick 7 after bids and father sons, they've talked about players picked at 7 who ended up #7 at their clubs, they've talked about the shape of the number 7. If the number 7 is involved, these pricks have prattled on about it.

it will be Pick 8 by the end of today. there's another easy hour of content

 

[nikkig98]

Might be a silly question but is there a legitimate chance we keep Marshall? Keen to see what the tdk combo looks like. Think he's worth more to us than what the cats would pay

Not silly at all imo
Dont think we're gonna trade romar unless we're the winners in any trade scenario. I don't think he's "desperate" to get out but if you're getting recruited by a team that made the GF this year and have no competition for your spot, plus its in the same state, then asking for a trade makes sense.

But he was pictured with his arm around TDK training together so if a trade doesnt go through, i dont think he'll consider it the end of the world

 

[snails13]

Not silly at all imo
Dont think we're gonna trade romar unless we're the winners in any trade scenario. I don't think he's "desperate" to get out but if you're getting recruited by a team that made the GF this year and have no competition for your spot, plus its in the same state, then asking for a trade makes sense.

But he was pictured with his arm around TDK training together so if a trade doesnt go through, i dont think he'll consider it the end of the world

Well he won't be getting his Cotton On bonuses they promised him

 

[PJays]

Who hurt you?

Have you bothered to read the post on the plethora of hacks taken with pick 7 in previous drafts? Noting this 7 becomes 10+

Like Joel Selwood, Jordan Lewis, Paddy Ryder, Daniel Rich, Josh Caddy, Ollie Wines, Bailey Smith and Hayden Young?

St Kilda recently used FRP's on Nas, Phillipou and Tauru, all lower than 7.

Owens and Windhager were a lot lower, too...

Why don't you go look at who was drafted from pick 8 onwards, last time St Kilda traded their FRP. 2019.

Anyway, I've noticed a pattern here, since I started visiting this forum this year.

1. St Kilda does something
2. Neutral fans criticise it
3. St Kilda's fans on this forum think anyone who opposes it is a "miserable campaigner" and the only reasonable view is full support, otherwise you're a traitor who must be a Collingwood fan trolling the forum
4. Rinse and repeat

 

[NAS THE GOAT]

Essendon,(like the Saints) dont appear to rate it either,chasing 1 higher pick to give up on picks 5&6

They want Duursma to join his brother. Then try get the other brother from North next year