No Oppo Supporters General AFL discussion and other club’s news - Part 10

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Is there anything that he doesn’t complains about?

Interstate teams.

 

[Whats a Battle]

It's NOT last touch out of bounds. It's last Disposal.

And it's probably one of the ONLY rule changes ever that has been tested properly before being implemented.

And this is probably the only time in my life I've actually been excited about a rule change.

 

[DeafHawk]

Would the new rules suit Hawks style of play or not?

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Would the new rules suit Hawks style of play or not?

The good teams always find a way to benefit

But we need our midfield situation to change and I think that ruck shift is going to be a big difference in how teams lpay the centre square.

One of our biggest problem's in 2025, in the first half of the year at least, was slowing down a team that had a run of goals going. Centre boucne clearances were our absolute kryponite when things were going badly - so if we can use this rule change to become one of the best clearance teams again it could really work for us.

Shrug rule is going to work against Newcombe in a big way. He and Worpel always opted to twist their way out of trouble. Ginni and Watson will still be umpired differently to everyone because morons can't get over 2024.

I'm not sure how but I think the last touch rule might work for us

 

[badgrill]

The good teams always find a way to benefit

But we need our midfield situation to change and I think that ruck shift is going to be a big difference in how teams lpay the centre square.

One of our biggest problem's in 2025, in the first half of the year at least, was slowing down a team that had a run of goals going. Centre boucne clearances were our absolute kryponite when things were going badly - so if we can use this rule change to become one of the best clearance teams again it could really work for us.

Shrug rule is going to work against Newcombe in a big way. He and Worpel always opted to twist their way out of trouble. Ginni and Watson will still be umpired differently to everyone because morons can't get over 2024.

I'm not sure how but I think the last touch rule might work for us

But surely if you shrug out of a tackle and get rid of it straight away, you'll be fine?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

It’s strange how the AFL hates dead time in games yet won’t shorten the time off between goals.

Also the shrugging rule is silly. Pretty much any attempt to take on the tackle and move the ball on will be a free against. Yet farcical acts like holding the ball to your body with your free arm is a ball up. Blicavs had a blatant one in the grand final.

It punishes players for trying to take the game on while rewarding players who win the ball to get a ball up.

The time between goals is purely for commercials

 

[Yardie]

But surely if you shrug out of a tackle and get rid of it straight away, you'll be fine?

There will be an over correction at the start of the year when everyone will be pinged until it settles down properly.

 

[hebog]

But surely if you shrug out of a tackle and get rid of it straight away, you'll be fine?

You might as well play touch football.

 

[Atch]

Surely it's not a free against for shrugging the tackle? I thought it was just reinforcing the fact they're not paying for a high tackle if tackled player tries to shrug the tackle.

 

[earthworms]

With 5 players on the bench does the allowed interchange count change? I think it should remain the same

 

[grumbleguts]

Why do you think booting it OOF down field is the most likely outcome of this change?

The rule is for last disposal out of bounds. And a disposal is already defined as a handball or kick. A ruck tap or a fumble aren’t disposals and are already covered by existing rules (can’t tap it out over the line and incorrect disposal respectively).

If a player is hemmed in on the boundary between the arcs without a good option inboard then they’re likely to do exactly what they have been doing already: Attempt to have the tackle carry them out of bounds before holding the ball can be called.

Coaches will never instruct their players to take any action that guarantees giving clear possession to the opposition.

This is also one of the few rule changes that has been properly tested in other competitions and analyzed thoroughly for impact. Short of one of the more tactically minded coaches coming up with an innovative way to take advantage of it, it’s unlikely to change the way the game is played significantly outside of slightly reducing instances of kicking down the line to gain territory.

It's like replying to a monkey.

 

[Dewnior]

Assuming we play just the one ruck, I can see Chol getting a heap more CBAs next season.

 

[Mopar Jason]

With 5 players on the bench does the allowed interchange count change? I think it should remain the same

Yes, the 75 interchange rotation cap will remain the same for the 2026 AFL season, even though the substitute rule is being removed and there are 5 on the bench.

 

[MasterSamurai]

Five on the bench works for us. Plenty of depth looking to get games . Our running capacity is one of the better outfits in the comp. Run teams into the ground deep into the last qtr. I'm talking about aerobic ability.

 

[cryptor]

But surely if you shrug out of a tackle and get rid of it straight away, you'll be fine?

Shrugging a tackle is now considered prior opportunity. But the tackle still needs to stick to count.

I don't think it's a rule brought in to stop the likes of Newcombe who will shrug a tackle and slip out of it most of the time. It's to target guys like Ginnivan and Watson who less often slip out of it and instead get taken high.

But I also don't think it's going to be too bad as even before this change umpires were rarely paying those two free kicks in those instances anyway. So now it just forces umpires to officiate it the same against all the other small forwards in the league.

 

[hfc70]

A group of players, fly for a mark……then who has to ‘stand’ ? All of them ? Going to be some crazy early decisions

 

[Blackhawk42]

I thought this Greg Swan was meant to be coming in and fixing things, not making things worse

Out of these rule changes, what do you suggest makes things worse?

 

[Hodgey 15]

When does pre-season training start?

 

[unitedhawk2]

When does pre-season training start?

Two weeks from today - also two days before the draft.

 

[KermitJagger]

Out of these rule changes, what do you suggest makes things worse?

The stand rule change is absolute nonsense. The way it's written, it indicates that if there was a free kick in a centre clearance situation then every opposition player in the 5m radius would not be able to move.

The other point is that they're rule changes to ameliorate other issues by previous rule changes. It's reactive nonsense.

 

[Hodgey 15]

Two weeks from today - also two days before the draft.

Thanks

 

[TONYC3163]

The stand rule change is absolute nonsense. The way it's written, it indicates that if there was a free kick in a centre clearance situation then every opposition player in the 5m radius would not be able to move.

The other point is that they're rule changes to ameliorate other issues by previous rule changes. It's reactive nonsense.

Clearly, not every opposition player will need to stand, stop catastrophizing things.

 

[KermitJagger]

Clearly, not every opposition player will need to stand, stop catastrophizing things.

I'm gonna react one time to this, and just know that it's coming from someone that others would say the exact same thing about - the way you respond to people on this board is almost exclusively shitty and dismissive.

I know it's easy when you feel you're always on the right side, but maybe you could be a bit more diplomatic.

 

[TONYC3163]

I'm gonna react one time to this, and just know that it's coming from someone that others would say the exact same thing about - the way you respond to people on this board is almost exclusively shitty and dismissive.

I know it's easy when you feel you're always on the right side, but maybe you could be a bit more diplomatic.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Clearly, not every opposition player will need to stand, stop catastrophizing things.

Umpire calls stand. Every player stops. 50

Umpire calls stand. Wrong player stops. 50