6-6-6 - winners and losers

[Ghost of Punt Road]

Scores are really low....I wonder why?

 

[Blue1980]

You saw exactly that last night. In the past, with fwds starting high up or at the wing, the fwd line was more open and it was easier to score.
With the new rules the fwd 50 has 12 players in there when the ball enters from the ball up. I lost count the amount of times 4+ players went for the same mark only for it to spill and then spend the next 30sec pinballing its way out of the 50 or through for a shitty point.
There’s occasions that quick goals are kicked from the centre bounce but last night it took until the start of the last quarter for it to happen and the commentators creamed themselves over it stating how good the rule changers are.
Too many *******s in head office changing the game we love when it should be left to evolve as it has for the last 150 yrs

So you think there have been no rule changes in 150 years?

 

[BG32]

Seems the shitter teams win unless you're extra shit

 

[Ghost of Punt Road]

These zones seem to clog the game up. When maybe you had a pagans paddock now it is always full of 12 players.

Who decided than 6 6 6 was a golden solution?

I hardly think we want more of them.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

So you think there have been no rule changes in 150 years?

You’re comparing the rule changes of the prior 145yrs to those of the last 5 ?
Don’t be silly

 

[Ron The Bear]

Scores are really low....I wonder why?

The five highest-scoring teams of 2018 have already played, and we've seen a stack of upsets.

They've thrown the chess set up in the air, and some of the pieces have been lost.

 

[chaddy22]

Eagles look like a loser at the moment.A fit nic nat and a gaff will improve them but today showed why many believe they have a average midfield.Can't wait for nic nat to come back but only if he is fit.

 

[Rabman]

9 teams kicking more behinds than goals doesnt help high scoring.

 

[blueiris]

Brisbane Lions seem to handle the 666 quite well but it's only early in the season

 

[kaiserchief13]

Low scores, maybe they changed the wrong rules?

 

[Blue1980]

You’re comparing the rule changes of the prior 145yrs to those of the last 5 ?
Don’t be silly

How are they different?

 

[amazingjoshy]

These zones seem to clog the game up. When maybe you had a pagans paddock now it is always full of 12 players.

Who decided than 6 6 6 was a golden solution?

I hardly think we want more of them.

yeah who would've thought bringing in untested changes wouldn't have undesired consequences....

 

[Blue1980]

yeah who would've thought bringing in untested changes wouldn't have undesired consequences....

That’s hardly the problem. Seems odd that people thought something that is in place for such a small amount of the match would lead to free flowing shoot outs

 

[amazingjoshy]

then what's the point?

 

[Blue1980]

then what's the point?

Softening people up for more extensive changes.

Many thought this would cause the end of football as we knew it, so they were only allowed to make incremental change

 

[amazingjoshy]

Softening people up for more extensive changes.

Many thought this would cause the end of football as we knew it, so they were only allowed to make incremental change

Yep you are spot on with this, is exactly what the AFL is doing. Full zones within two years i reckon....which is why its horseshit and people are calling it out now...

The argument being that the natural evolution of the game would develop and evolve like it has done forever, and the panic last year about "the state of the game" was a bunch of crap.

As a sidenote we just happened to have the most entertaining GF of nearly all time last year...

 

[Blue1980]

Yep you are spot on with this, is exactly what the AFL is doing. Full zones within two years i reckon....which is why its horseshit and people are calling it out now...

The argument being that the natural evolution of the game would develop and evolve like it has done forever, and the panic last year about "the state of the game" was a bunch of crap.

As a sidenote we just happened to have the most entertaining GF of nearly all time last year...

I don’t think we will have full zones, just seems way too hard to police.

I do think someone will come up with ways to use it in a positive manner. Just seems like everything coaches do at the moment is designed to stop the opposition rather than pro actively coming up ways of maximizing attacking opportunities.

I don’t think anyone was saying the game was garbage previously, just people think of ways to eliviate the less good aspects.

I’m fine with the changes, I’d go a bit further and reduce interchange to 40, go with the longer goalsquare as well.

I’m not sure what else in terms of zones, maybe no one can move out of the 50s for 10 seconds after a centre bounce?

It’s a delicate balance between trying to make something better and not ruining the essence of the game. Only an idiot would claim the changes made have ruined anything. If people didn’t want the changes, why are they complaining they have done nothing? Surely that’s a good thing from their perspective?

 

[Pessimistic]

They spent more time structuring committees than actually road testing the rules.

It’s not a failure if they can dominate the commentary........

 

[Wacko23Jacko]

Big loser out of round 1 so far is AFL... is scoring up and congestion down?


Scoring down 10% so far on this time last year and the footy I’ve seen has certainly had a lot of congestion.

That’s including last year having an abysmal North vs Suns scoreline of about 10 goals between the teams last season.

 

[Blue1980]

Big loser out of round 1 so far is AFL... is scoring up and congestion down?


Scoring down 10% so far on this time last year and the footy I’ve seen has certainly had a lot of congestion.

That’s including last year having an abysmal North vs Suns scoreline of about 10 goals between the teams last season.

Hopefully there’s some beltings today to boost the scoring averages

 

[Carpe Vinum]

After a handful of games of JLT the observable evidence of the effect of the new 6-6-6 rule is limited.

However the early indicators show players having more time and space and a reduction in congestion.

Tactics and strategies will evolve but if a less congested centre is the outcome would any teams be particularly advantaged/disadvantaged?

Would this change also see the demise of the tagger?
Or will the changes have no real noticeable impact?

The aim of the new rules - reduce congestion -has it happened - only marginally at the centre bounces but as if no player gets a clean possession immediately it is back to what it was.
Increased scoring - hasnt happened yet - potential for some quicker goals from a centre break but the hype about the starting one on ones in the forward line favouring the forwards is yet to eventuate.
Big forwards to dominate - yet to happen
larger goal square will open it up with longer kicks - at the moment this has led to most kicks ins being long to a contest and ending up with a congested situation 80-90 metres from goal - it appears to have stopped some of the run and flow from the backline - and how far can the 'full back? run before he has to kick... seems like an extraordinary distance at times - not a necessary rule change to me.

modifications to hand in the back rule - works - penalise a push and not just contact.
ruckman not being pinged when taking the ball from ruck contests - works

Funny how the 2 rules that seem to work are the rule we played to in the good old days!

 

[BIRDBRAIN]

Hopefully there’s some beltings today to boost the scoring averages

Why's that? Are you in the rules committee?

 

[BIRDBRAIN]

modifications to hand in the back rule - works - penalise a push and not just contact.
ruckman not being pinged when taking the ball from ruck contests - works

Funny how the 2 rules that seem to work are the rule we played to in the good old days!

Exactly. What if we just went back in mid 90's rules including only 2 interchange players. All these rule changes are just to try and fix the unintended consequences of all the previous rule changes. Get rid of the 'rules committee' altogether.

If they want to bring in something new how about a 'Commentators Academy' for developing TV commentators that aren't ****wits?

 

[BIRDBRAIN]

Serious question, do suburban leagues play to all these ******ed new rules? Are they now playing 666 etc? Or will we have a situation where young players learn one game and then make it to the AFL and have to play another game?

The thought of Masters leagues having zones makes me chuckle. Forcing old timers to play to some ******* new rules 30-40 years into their careers. The AFL have really overcomplicated things now and for no benefit to anyone.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

No. But what else could the purpose be. The only alternative I can think of is that is a softening up of the public before they introduce full time zones.

Will never happen. Just imagine 2 players chasing after a loose ball then having to stop dead when it trickles into the other zone on a big arse field.