Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 7 - Trump takes full responsibility.

[blackcat]

In my opinion it was very different. It was the first time the incredible (and still very under estimated) power of Facebook and Twitter were available and harnessed for an election propaganda campaign by an interfering third party.

I don’t profess to understand thier real motives or how they actually went about it in detail. But I find it scary and do think it was the first time ever.

So yeah, different to previous.

Everyone attemps to influence you ignorant ignorant ignorant peon. They had pro-HRC ads too.

 

[blackcat]

hypothetically, one could choose Bernie or Bloomberg above both Trump and HRC and not be a pro-Trump Brexiteer. It is pass the <popcorn.giph> time and nuffie watching time. I luv nuffies in the morning like Vietnam rice fields, like Robert Duvall and lowlands Trappist monasteries beers with high ABV's medusala

 

[GuruJane]

Just to clarify, you're OK with the mocking of a disabled man in his workplace.

Trump should have been tar and feathered out of town.

 

[blackcat]

Trump should have been tar and feathered out of town.

Guru you are avoiding the question? are you anti-disabled people? You are just another pro Trump bigot and I am another virtue signaller

 

[stretcharmstrong]

Everyone attemps to influence you ignorant ignorant ignorant peon. They had pro-HRC ads too.

I wasn’t aware the Russians had a pro Clinton campaign going, but it honestly doesn’t surprise me. My point stands in that what they did appears to me to have gone to a scale not seen before in the manipulative use of SM

 

[blackcat]

I wasn’t aware the Russians had a pro Clinton campaign going, but it honestly doesn’t surprise me. My point stands in that what they did appears to me to have gone to a scale not seen before in the manipulative use of SM

$US100k of Facebook ads, which were both pro Dem and pro Trump. But eh, believe the BS and believe everything from beltway media. I was for Bernie and Michael Bloomberg. But above all, for truth and #truthinmedia

 

[yebiga]

Completely independent of Trump, Russian influence in the 2016 election is beyond question. It happened

Thank you, Mr Comey

 

[GuruJane]

Guru you are avoiding the question? are you anti-disabled people? You are just another pro Trump bigot and I am another virtue signaller

I just don't want to be hit on by Meryl Streep.

 

[blackcat]

I just don't want to be hit on by Meryl Streep.

Yes, she is a #meangrowler. she bites

 

[awaremind]

Well Qatar is attempting to influence our election, and everyone is cheering that on...

 

[darrenmorgan]

Well Qatar is attempting to influence our election, and everyone is cheering that on...

Haha

 

[blackcat]

Haha

What is Barnaby Joyce's political advisor <strikethru> come baby momma's name? I thought she was a belly dancer/ bungabunga 'dancer'.

 

[Chief]

Well Qatar is attempting to influence our election, and everyone is cheering that on...

Do you see the difference between doing investigative journalism and releasing a story under your own name, and hacking private computers to release the stolen files via a third party to hide the source?

I hope you do. I know you do. You're trolling.

 

[Chief]

$US100k of Facebook ads, which were both pro Dem and pro Trump. But eh, believe the BS and believe everything from beltway media. I was for Bernie and Michael Bloomberg. But above all, for truth and #truthinmedia

Lol if you think $100,000 is the full extent of their shenanigans I have a bridge in Sydney to sell you.

 

[blackcat]

Lol if you think $100,000 is the full extent of their shenanigans I have a bridge in Sydney to sell you.

I will buy

 

[GuruJane]

WAPO has an interesting story about how Trump's lawyers saw off the Special Counsel.

Read on:

Doubts about prevailing

Trump’s lawyers left the distinct public impression that they were not an equal match for Mueller, a venerated former FBI director.
Dowd and Ty Cobb, another legal adviser to Trump, were overheard by a reporter discussing over lunch at a popular Washington steakhouse how much they would cooperate with Mueller. Giuliani developed a habit of misspeaking in meandering television interviews.

But behind the scenes, Trump’s legal advisers had a quiet weapon: a husband-and-wife pair of criminal lawyers, Jane and Martin Raskin, who brought rigor and regimen to the team when they came aboard in April 2018.

While Giuliani and attorney Jay Sekulow managed the public relations strategy, the Raskins did most of the lawyering from a temporary office they set up in Washington. They declined to comment.

Giuliani said that roughly 80 percent of the Trump team’s interactions with the special counsel’s office were handled by Jane Raskin, who has known both Mueller and Quarles for years. She knew Mueller from her time as a federal prosecutor in Boston, while her husband had worked with Quarles.

She communicated mostly by email, developing a written record that Trump’s attorneys intended to use as evidence of their cooperation and responsiveness if they ended up in court fighting a subpoena.

Martin Raskin, meanwhile, did a great deal of the writing and editing of legal arguments, including a “counter report” defending the president that Giuliani said has been prepared but may never be released.

Central to the Trump strategy — developed first by Cobb and Dowd and later carried out by Giuliani, Sekulow and the Raskins, as well as Flood, who from his White House perch represented the office of the presidency — was to cooperate fully with every request for documents and witnesses from Mueller, including Trump’s written answers to some questions.

Their goal: to satisfy Mueller’s hunt for information to the extent that the special counsel would not have legal standing to subpoena the president’s oral testimony.

“We allowed them to question everybody, and they turned over every document they were asked for: 1.4 million documents,” Giuliani said.“We had what you would call unprecedented cooperation.”

Trump’s lawyers, citing the independent counsel investigation of Espy, argued that to justify a subpoena of Trump, Mueller needed to prove that he could not get the information in any way other than by asking the president.

“No matter what question they would say they wanted to ask, I felt confident we could turn it over and say, ‘You already have the answer to it,’ ” Giuliani said. “If they said, ‘Why did you fire Comey?’ I’d give them five interviews, and particularly the Lester Holt tape, where he goes into great detail as to his reasons.”

Giuliani was referring to Trump’s May 2017 interview with the “NBC Nightly News” anchor in which the president said he was thinking about “this Russia thing” when he fired James B. Comey as FBI director, one of the actions Mueller was investigating as possible obstruction of justice.

All the while, Giuliani said, the legal team was not convinced that it would have prevailed in court. “Honestly, I don’t know who would have won,” he said. “I think our argument got better as time went on. But I don’t know if we would have won.”

They never gave up asking'

As Mueller’s lawyers quietly labored, a political storm was raging around them.

Trump, his lawyers and his allies in Congress routinely attacked Mueller and his investigators as compromised and corrupt. The president repeatedly urged an end to the probe, which he condemned as a “witch hunt,” a “fraud” and a “hoax” that was wasting taxpayer money.

..,.

As each month passed without a subpoena, the president’s attorneys increasingly doubted that Mueller would seek to obtain one, according to people with knowledge of internal discussions.

Mueller’s team kept insisting it needed to interview the president — but never followed through with an actual demand.

Mueller and Quarles would stress that they needed to know Trump’s intentions when he fired Comey and took other actions that could have thwarted the Russia investigation.
Jane Raskin would respond by pressing them for a legal justification for seeking to interview the president, according to a person familiar with the negotiations.

The president’s team asked, “What evidence have you obtained that justifies you interviewing the president?” according the person, who added that Mueller’s office was “never able to articulate a compelling case. They never gave up asking, but they had no good answer for that question.”

In the absence of an interview, Trump’s attorneys offered Mueller a substitute: The president would provide answers to a set of questions about Russia and the campaign, submitted in writing. But, citing executive privilege, they refused to provide answers to questions pertaining to the president’s time in office — questions that went to the heart of the special counsel’s inquiry into possible obstruction of justice.

However, the process of compiling answers dragged. Trump’s lawyers found it difficult to get the president to focus on drafting the submission, according to people familiar with the sessions.Trump’s meetings with his lawyers were frequently interrupted by phone calls and other White House business.

Finally, in late November 2018, the lawyers sent Trump’s answers to Mueller.

In December, Mueller’s team made one more request for an interview with the president.

And in January, the special counsel’s office contacted Trump’s lawyers to ask some follow-up questions, according to people familiar with the request.

But Trump’s lawyers again declined.They neither agreed to an interview nor answered the additional questions
Two months later, Mueller submitted his report without having spoken to the president. The investigation was over.

Rosalind S. Helderman and Devlin Barrett contributed to this report.

There is much more at:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d346f0ec94f_story.html?utm_term=.16b9d048c46b

Must say it takes a high degree of nerve, discipline and above all, patience - to successfully run a defense strategy like this.

Trump was served well. Better than he deserved?

 

[Chief]

“Honestly, I don’t know who would have won,” he said. “I think our argument got better as time went on. But I don’t know if we would have won.”

 

[blackcat]

How did they need an argument, this was absurd. Chomsky Greenwald Blumenthal are my witnesses

America went mad with TDS 60 years post Mcarthy

'guess wot folks, you won the cold war 33years ago'

 

[maryjames]

I’m noticing that trump is getting more popular everyday. Support is still growing. Incredible achievement so far with the media lying all time about him. The public know better.

 

[blackcat]

I’m noticing that trump is getting more popular everyday. Support is still growing. Incredible achievement so far with the media lying all time about him. The public know better.

humble gamblers like Evo myself and medusala doubled down on the reelection book and we stand to make Tom Waterhouse bankrupt

#MichaelLewis #TheBigShort

 

[Chief]

humble gamblers like Evo myself and medusala doubled down on the reelection book and we stand to make Tom Waterhouse bankrupt

#MichaelLewis #TheBigShort

You will own HUNDREDS of moneys!

 

[GuruJane]

“Honestly, I don’t know who would have won,” he said. “I think our argument got better as time went on. But I don’t know if we would have won.”

Getting him on perjury was their best chance. Oh yes.
And Trump's ego would have been screaming to take on Mueller.
I suspect that's why Rudy was doing that whirling dervish impression for so long.

 

[blackcat]

You will own HUNDREDS of moneys!

Yes Chief, he of unmatched wisdom, we can be brethren brothers pleonasm in moneys and grammar

 

[blackcat]

Every sentient person knew two years ago anti-Russia conspiracy Mcarthyist SCARE underway but fools like @rats_of_tobruk still read NYTimes and WaPo
I told Contra Mundum close to 18months back it was bunkum, all you folks piled on me. Lemmings.

 

[GuruJane]

Every sentient person knew two years ago anti-Russia conspiracy Mcarthyist SCARE underway but fools like @rats_of_tobruk still read NYTimes and WaPo
I told Contra Mundum close to 18months back it was bunkum, all you folks piled on me. Lemmings.

Pauvre petite pussie noire. You're back among friends now ... we won't let the nasty@Contra getcha ...