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[GreyCrow]

Im putting my flag in the ground now

The US should not takeover/annexe/militarily control Greenland in any shape or form

I will condemn them for any action done to do this. There is NO reason at all to do this

Any false flag operation will be treated as such

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Us Vessels have reportedly taken Bella 1.
Naval flash point/stand off incoming.
See who blinks first.

 

[barreness]

Probably won't happen but the UK and France need to start nuclear submarine patrols of Greenland, and if the USA tries anything sink one of their aircraft carriers.

US already has a base in Greenland, it's probably a sizeable percentage of the population. Was occupied in WW2 and never left, they agreed to put up a Danish flag as a compromise.

This is a show to make the EU/UK look strong and Trump likes colours on the maps. Distraction for when the Ukraine war wraps up

 

[RUNVS]

US already has a base in Greenland, it's probably a sizeable percentage of the population. Was occupied in WW2 and never left, they agreed to put up a Danish flag as a compromise.

This is a show to make the EU/UK look strong and Trump likes colours on the maps. Distraction for when the Ukraine war wraps up

I think it is getting close to Denmark needing to demand those US troops be removed from Greenland.

 

[barreness]

I’m not well versed on all those conflicts to be perfectly honest so won’t pretend to be an expert, Nor can I be bothered spending days arguing about them.

Here is one, Korean War the USA did a huge favour to the world. But I’m sure you’ll tell me they didn’t.

The US and the USSR occupied halves of Korea after ousting a Japanese occupying force.

The USSR tried repeatedly to install a compromise candidate and unify the peninsular under a neutral candidate for a democratic election. This was denied by the US because they knew they would elect a communist.

The USSR left in '48 after a democratic election. The US maintained the Japanese hierarchy just with them in charge, also kept the comfort women(underage girls included), but their soldiers paid them

After repeated denials by Stalin (and multiple massacres of lefties by the US backed fascists) eventually Kim1 was allowed to attempt to unify the peninsular. Soviets at the time were boycotting the UN for various reasons, so this became a UN backed war(ROC/Taiwan was at the time recognised as the real China).

China intervened('volunteer army') and a few Soviet pilots/trainers fought against a US backed force which embarked on a genocidal bombing campaign, US pilots were quoted "no more targets remain" in the whole of NK.

Eventually a stalemate occurred after US generals were called backed from launching nukes at China.

*Huge favour

 

[Sarcoidevo]

.... waiting for the covert US Forces to now steer the Russian flagged tanker towards Greenland ......

 

[barreness]

I think it is getting close to Denmark needing to demand those US troops be removed from Greenland.

Goodluck tbh.

The artic is being opened up as climate change hits. US wants a hand in between the northern oil routes of Russia and China.

Nuclear icebreakers are dope though, i'd love to be on one of those. In a better world most of the cargo ships of the world are giant nuclear bad boys, I digress though

 

[adelaidecrows]

Honestly, the US taking out Parliament while it is in session and our country is basically theirs.

Won't even get that far. First leader to land on our shores and our leaders will give them felatio upon request.

 

[barreness]

Us Vessels have reportedly taken Bella 1.
Naval flash point/stand off incoming.
See who blinks first.

That's the one they painted a Russian flag on and changed the paperwork,lol.

On the nothing ever happens here myself.

Russia/China has no capability to defend Venezuela like the west has in Ukraine, nor particularly the ideology. Low key conspiracy is Maduro took the hit and surrendered to save the country, he looks too happy and the trial should be fun lol

 

[barreness]

Let me ask again because again nobody has the courage to answer - why is it ok for the deputy under Maduro to be left in place by Trump if its an illegitimate party?

It's a show of force, not a regime change.........so far?

It's a weird move tbh. Trump incompetent, inside compradors within the party, distraction politics, madman doctrine?
All a bit up in the air

 

[GreyCrow]

It's a show of force, not a regime change.........so far?

It's a weird move tbh. Trump incompetent, inside compradors within the party, distraction politics, madman doctrine?
All a bit up in the air

I know there has been talk of waiting for x amount of months but it doesnt make sense. Even putting Machado in charge would be a clear sign of some change

 

[Beerfish]

Well an actual invasion is different.

Movies: With great power comes great responsibility
Real Life USA: With great power, take as much as you can get your hands on, squash anyone who gets in your way like a bug

The US has pretty much turned into Homelander.

 

[barreness]

I know there has been talk of waiting for x amount of months but it doesnt make sense. Even putting Machado in charge would be a clear sign of some change

Trump is best seen as a catty gay man, he'll never put Machado in charge after she stole his peace prize. Also a boot licker which he doesn't respect, ironically

I think this is likely it, done and dusted. Just knock off the bus driver for clout and a deal will be made with the current regime. They'd be wise to do so tbh, allow chevron(or whatever) in to build the oil up, nationalise properly later.

Caveat, could well be wrong here, completely.

Saw an interesting theory. They waited til a moonlit clear weather night; you do that to lower the risk of accident, would give the best chance for defenders too, yet.....?

Me and you up on a apartment roof with a 50 cal machinegun could have dropped one of those Chinooks, barely a shot fired(let alone manpads or s300s). Questions here

 

[schneebly111]

Im putting my flag in the ground now

The US should not takeover/annexe/militarily control Greenland in any shape or form

I will condemn them for any action done to do this. There is NO reason at all to do this

Any false flag operation will be treated as such

The whole fact they are openly talking about it is crazy enough.

It’s depressing how our government is not talking out against this.

 

[rank and file]

.... waiting for the covert US Forces to now steer the Russian flagged tanker towards Greenland ......

The Irish fisherman will step up and blockade,
saving the day.
No fear in those waters,brave boys.

 

[BomToydd]

The whole fact they are openly talking about it is crazy enough.

It’s depressing how our government is not talking out against this.

Look how easily they've been bullied into a royal commission. America could invade us and they'd probably thank them for it

 

[schneebly111]

US already has a base in Greenland, it's probably a sizeable percentage of the population. Was occupied in WW2 and never left, they agreed to put up a Danish flag as a compromise.

It’s only a radar station with 100 troops manning it 1000s of kms from the capital Nuuk. Most of the minerals are in the south near the capital.

The problem for the Danes is their military presence is limited to a few patrol boats. The U.S. military could just fly and sail into Greenland and seize it in an afternoon without firing a shot.

The only deterrent IMO is an agreement for UK/French Nuclear subs to patrol the waters off the coastal and for EU air forces to do temporary deployments as a show of force. Or by northern Summer the Yanks will just seize it.

 

[schneebly111]

Look how easily they've been bullied into a royal commission. America could invade us and he'd probably thank them for it

No doubt a lot in Australian media and society would be on TV extolling the “benefits” of a U.S. takeover.

 

[RUNVS]

No doubt a lot in Australian media and society would be on TV extolling the “benefits” of a U.S. takeover.

Sky News would be thrilled.

 

[barreness]

It’s only a radar station with 100 troops manning it 1000s of kms from the capital Nuuk. Most of the minerals are in the south near the capital.

The problem for the Danes is their military presence is limited to a few patrol boats. The U.S. military could just fly and sail into Greenland and seize it in an afternoon without firing a shot.

The only deterrent IMO is an agreement for UK/French Nuclear subs to patrol the waters off the coastal and for EU air forces to do temporary deployments as a show of force. Or by northern Summer the Yanks will just seize it.

There's no point is my basic point. they already have it defacto.

Why bother raising a stink and losing NATO backing against Russia. Trump wants it for the pretty colours on the map, just smile and nod, sure dad

Don't think Greenland is really a resource spot, it's a big valley filled with km's thick ice. Melting glaciers aren't exactly a drilling/mining bonanza.

It's a control point for the Arctic trade routes as we hit a blue ocean event. Power politics versus Russia/China

 

[barreness]

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/europe-venezuela/

The question is what really the EU can do to deter the U.S., except issue more statements of concern? Having outsourced its security to the U.S., defined the Ukraine war as existential to its own future and refused to seek autonomous diplomatic solutions, the EU is now utterly dependent on the U.S. whims and — because of its position on Gaza and now Venezuela —devoid of any international sympathy.

In fact, if the U.S. did invade Greenland, the EU would likely simply issue another statement with generic concern. Some, like the president of Latvia, already suggested that the (unspecified, and arguably non-existent) “legitimate security needs of the U.S.” have to be addressed in a “direct dialogue” between the U.S. and Denmark.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

IF Trump did invade Greenland the Dems would only likely hand it back once Trump is voted out

 

[jatz14]

id imagine they are heavily rigged results though so it shows continued support for the president even at local levels. But then again China just disappears people who speak out. So they may not even have to rig anything.

It isnt as simple as that. The politically active in China join the communist party, and then try to influence policy from within. The policy debates arent held in the open as much as the West, but they are held, and there are conflicting ideas and policies.
Put it another way, their are the equivalents of Republicans and Democrats in China,, but they are both within the CCP, and they dont necessarily get along any better than in the US.

Superficially, its more cohesive and organised than in the West, but it just looks like that because they smile and nod and clap and follow the agreed line when the cameras are rolling.

 

[jatz14]

The US and the USSR occupied halves of Korea after ousting a Japanese occupying force.

The USSR tried repeatedly to install a compromise candidate and unify the peninsular under a neutral candidate for a democratic election. This was denied by the US because they knew they would elect a communist.

The USSR left in '48 after a democratic election. The US maintained the Japanese hierarchy just with them in charge, also kept the comfort women(underage girls included), but their soldiers paid them

After repeated denials by Stalin (and multiple massacres of lefties by the US backed fascists) eventually Kim1 was allowed to attempt to unify the peninsular. Soviets at the time were boycotting the UN for various reasons, so this became a UN backed war(ROC/Taiwan was at the time recognised as the real China).

China intervened('volunteer army') and a few Soviet pilots/trainers fought against a US backed force which embarked on a genocidal bombing campaign, US pilots were quoted "no more targets remain" in the whole of NK.

Eventually a stalemate occurred after US generals were called backed from launching nukes at China.

*Huge favour

North Korea got very close to total victory in the first weeks of the war, due to the almost total lack of military equipment and organisation in the South. In fact, they failed to completely conquer the south because SK naval officials had held raffles and fundraisers to buy a second hand US minesweeper, which arrived back in Busan the day before the North tried to offload a shipful of soldiers in Busan

This emphatic military dominance of the North over the South was because the Russians had armed NK to the ****ing teeth with a huge offensive arsenal, and the US had given SK nothing, and left almost no military personnel in SK.

So, your spinning of the Korean war as some sort of consequence of naked American military imperialism is both highly amusing, and indicative of the usual standard of your utter tosh.

The Russians ere rebuffed about unifying the peninsular as this was a naked attempt to achieve what they later tried to achieve militarily, and once any sort of "neutral" candidate gained power in Korea, that was going to be the end of democracy

Russia was looking for dominance and if they couldn't get it diplomatically, they would get it militarily, and the US was unbelievably naive in thinking that rebuffing their political attempts at control would end the matter.

 

[Frank Grimes]

US already has a base in Greenland, it's probably a sizeable percentage of the population. Was occupied in WW2 and never left, they agreed to put up a Danish flag as a compromise.

This is a show to make the EU/UK look strong and Trump likes colours on the maps. Distraction for when the Ukraine war wraps up

From the information I heard there are 200 US military personnel in Greenland. Greenland population is 59,000.