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Preview R9: Changes vs. Richmond

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the bare minimum changes. I dont mind it. Would have been a good opportunity though to put game time into an Edwards or Dowling.
Better to wait until the last match or two of the year, and give them a go then.
 
Better to wait until the last match or two of the year, and give them a go then.
Continuity of selection with the same players is something every team in every sport wants. It creates predictability and team habits and that helps certainly helps with performance.

I agree Charlie Edwards has been treated unfairly and Billy Dowling should be given a chance but keeping the same 23 most weeks is what clubs want.
 

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I don’t buy the whole Thilthorpe can’t ruck due to injury risk. Darcy went down in the forward line so I think it’s just a risk with big guys anywhere.

I think it’s more you want your best forward… well… in the forward line. Like you wouldn’t throw Jeremey Cameron in the ruck.
You also want your best players where the football is.

If Cameron was a ruck size they probably would
 
Continuity of selection with the same players is something every team in every sport wants. It creates predictability and team habits and that helps certainly helps with performance.

I agree Charlie Edwards has been treated unfairly and Billy Dowling should be given a chance but keeping the same 23 most weeks is what clubs want.

That’s a very simplistic and one dimensional explanation of it. Clubs only want the same 23 if they’re all performing or there’s no viable replacements. Otherwise what they went is to remove the non-performing players from the 23.
 
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That’s a very simplistic and one dimensional explanation of it. Clubs only want the same 23 if they’re all performing or there’s no viable replacements. Ityerwuse Westbury went is to remove the non-performing players from the 23.
Footy is a simple game. Unimportant people try and complicate it to make them look important. They are not.
 
Edwards got dramatically reduced midfield time in his 2nd game, so no coincidence he found less of the ball.

It's almost if the selectors were creating a reason to drop him...
He played in the midfield the whole first half in his second game. He was taken out of the midfield at half time to get Dawson and Rankine in there.

I think there's a chance Edwards plays more if the Berry/Peatling/Soligo group aren't in the team, but you can only pick so many players who can only play midfield, and personally I'd rather those extra CBAs go to Rachele, Rankine or Dawson than Edwards.
 
He played in the midfield the whole first half in his second game. He was taken out of the midfield at half time to get Dawson and Rankine in there.

I think there's a chance Edwards plays more if the Berry/Peatling/Soligo group aren't in the team, but you can only pick so many players who can only play midfield, and personally I'd rather those extra CBAs go to Rachele, Rankine or Dawson than Edwards.
Then explain why he attended only around 30% of CBA-s .. under half the previous week.

Hmmm, perhaps he wasn't one of our main midfielders!
 

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I wonder if Nicks is panicking his tall targets arent scoring in his bomb it long hit and hope game plan and is looking to go back to his mosquito fleet days
TBH its not a bad idea.

Its the first sign of a bit of selection thought process.

You cant replace Tex like for like with the players available so dont try.
 
TBH its not a bad idea.

Its the first sign of a bit of selection thought process.

You cant replace Tex like for like with the players available so dont try.

Nothing will change whilst we have a rigid methodology to targeting our entries. You must be starting to realise this?
 
Nothing will change whilst we have a rigid methodology to targeting our entries. You must be starting to realise this?
Of course, but im trying to think of a positive. We could quite easily have brought a Maley or Fogarty in to keep that structure, and for the first time in a while weve chosen not to.

Likely the oppo we are facing probably plays a role in that, but im glad we havent done it all the same.
 
Edwards is extremely confusing, looked really solid in his first game and we then drop him after one average performance and he doesn't get a look in again. Classic AFC
What happened to Edwards is really confusing, for sure.
Edwards was not a part of Nicks' best-23 at the start of the season, so he's the obvious one at fault.
Classic Nicks :rolleyes::poov1:.
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Edwards got dramatically reduced midfield time in his 2nd game, so no coincidence he found less of the ball.
Our midfield was getting smashed by Neale/Ashcroft and Co.
I think Nicks' reasoning was: "We're getting beaten because that second-gamer what's-his-name is in the midfield. I'll move him to HF", instead of giving Edwards a gee-up and a Coach's belief in him.
What that tells Edwards is that
--- he's to blame for the second quarter shift in momentum
--- Nicks doesn't think he's good enough to stay in the midfield.
The consequence?
We continue to get pounded in the midfield until Brisbane was 10 goals up.
Edwards was ineffectual as a HF.

Yeah, good one, Nicksy.
It's almost if the selectors were creating a reason to drop him...
There's no "almost" about it, which is what you meant, I know.
Edwards is being Nicksed.
 

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Leave the Edwards train people, He's not up to it. It's obvious unfortunately. Low energy and not enough tricks for the AFL.
That's way too harsh on Edwards who showed plenty in his first game to indicate he's good enough for AFL.
Against Brisbane, second-gamer Edwards was competing against a battle-hardened, cohesive, fast, well-drilled (keep in mind, we have VB :poov1: as midfield Coach) 2 X Flag-winning midfield who continued to dominate even more after Nicks moved Edwards to HF.
Of course Edwards floundered in that first half.
Except for Dawson, the whole team did.
 
That's way too harsh on Edwards who showed plenty in his first game to indicate he's good enough for AFL.
Against Brisbane, second-gamer Edwards was competing against a battle-hardened, cohesive, fast, well-drilled (keep in mind, we have VB :poov1: as midfield Coach) 2 X Flag-winning midfield who continued to dominate even more after Nicks moved Edwards to HF.
Of course Edwards floundered in that first half.
Except for Dawson, the whole team did.
The first half was our best half.....

I want Edwards to get more of a run, but he's a very long way from being an answer to anything
 
Continuity of selection with the same players is something every team in every sport wants. It creates predictability and team habits and that helps certainly helps with performance.
Has it?
I agree Charlie Edwards has been treated unfairly and Billy Dowling should be given a chance but keeping the same 23 most weeks is what clubs want.
True - but only if there is genuine selection integrity

If pressure below is meant to create diamonds then continuity should have us sitting top. You can still tweak best 23 each week without creating drama
 
Continuity of selection with the same players is something every team in every sport wants. It creates predictability and team habits and that helps certainly helps with performance.

I agree Charlie Edwards has been treated unfairly and Billy Dowling should be given a chance but keeping the same 23 most weeks is what clubs want.
Chris Scott disagrees, but when he was he ever won anything.
 
The first half was our best half.....
Agreed, until Brisbane took control in the second 1/4.
I think Edwards copped the blame for that.
I want Edwards to get more of a run,
Agreed again :thumbsu: .
but he's a very long way from being an answer to anything
Edwards won't be developed into an AFL player the ways he's been treated by Nicks.
He needs AFL game-time (so does Draper for that matter), not more time dominating in the SANFL.
 

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