Draft Review 2008 - Re-do the 2008 draft

[38Rockliff38]

Ugh.

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[Big Fresh]

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Fyfe is without doubt better than Rockliff. You're really showing your bias.

 

[Wild Bill]

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Really? Rockcliffe over Fyfe?? Really???

 

[38Rockliff38]

Fyfe is without doubt better than Rockliff. You're really showing your bias.

Fyfe can't kick to save his life, has inferior stats to Rocky, has a buggered shoulder, and has nothing on Rocky's leadership. What makes you think I would prefer him over Rocky? You obviously have no clue about Rocky both on and off field. He's a champion for us at both.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Really? Rockcliffe over Fyfe?? Really???

Fyfe can't kick to save his life, has inferior stats to Rocky, has a buggered shoulder, and has nothing on Rocky's leadership. What makes you think I would prefer him over Rocky? You obviously have no clue about Rocky both on and off field. He's a champion for us at both.

 

[Wild Bill]

Fyfe can't kick to save his life, has inferior stats to Rocky, has a buggered shoulder, and has nothing on Rocky's leadership. What makes you think I would prefer him over Rocky? You obviously have no clue about Rocky both on and off field. He's a champion for us at both.

Wow - what a terrible post. Your football knowledge is deplorable.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Wow - what a terrible post. Your football knowledge is deplorable.

Care to elaborate? Oh wait, everything I said is correct

 

[Bailey01]

Wow - what a terrible post. Your football knowledge is deplorable.

Don't think stats is a good way of comparing players. Fyfe has the x-factor.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Don't think stats is a good way of comparing players. Fyfe has the x-factor.

The x-factor of turning the ball over with a terrible kick?

 

[Wild Bill]

Care to elaborate? Oh wait, everything I said is correct

There is a Fyfe v Rockcliffe debate on the poll boards. Maybe make a case there - you will get very little support.

 

[38Rockliff38]

There is a Fyfe v Rockcliffe debate on the poll boards. Maybe make a case there - you will get very little support.

Didn't think you would elaborate on your post. nice attempt at evading the question though.

 

[Big Fresh]

Fyfe can't kick to save his life, has inferior stats to Rocky, has a buggered shoulder, and has nothing on Rocky's leadership. What makes you think I would prefer him over Rocky? You obviously have no clue about Rocky both on and off field. He's a champion for us at both.

Since you love bringing up Brownlow votes it might be worth looking at some vote per game stats:

Chris Judd: 0.83
Joel Selwood: 0.82
Gary Ablett Jr: 0.79
Nat Fyfe: 0.77
Scott Pendlebury: 0.66
Dan Hannebery: 0.48 (his inclusion makes this post still relevant to the broader discussion, right?)
Tom Rockliff: 0.46

Also worth noting that Fyfe was arguably the best player this season on a team that made the Grand Final and only just turned 22. His skill set is so much harder to find and more useful than Rockliff's. No knock on Rockliff - he's certainly a good player, but Fyfe is a star.

 

[Wild Bill]

Since you love bringing up Brownlow votes it might be worth looking at some vote per game stats:

Chris Judd: 0.83
Joel Selwood: 0.82
Gary Ablett Jr: 0.79
Nat Fyfe: 0.77
Scott Pendlebury: 0.66
Dan Hannebery: 0.48 (his inclusion makes this post still relevant to the broader discussion, right?)
Tom Rockliff: 0.46

Also worth noting that Fyfe was arguably the best player this season on a team that made the Grand Final and only just turned 22. His skill set is so much harder to find and more useful than Rockliff's. No knock on Rockliff - he's certainly a good player, but Fyfe is a star.

Great post.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Great post.

Still waiting

 

[38Rockliff38]

Since you love bringing up Brownlow votes it might be worth looking at some vote per game stats:

Chris Judd: 0.83
Joel Selwood: 0.82
Gary Ablett Jr: 0.79
Nat Fyfe: 0.77
Scott Pendlebury: 0.66
Dan Hannebery: 0.48 (his inclusion makes this post still relevant to the broader discussion, right?)
Tom Rockliff: 0.46

Also worth noting that Fyfe was arguably the best player this season on a team that made the Grand Final and only just turned 22. His skill set is so much harder to find and more useful than Rockliff's. No knock on Rockliff - he's certainly a good player, but Fyfe is a star.

Playing in a team that made the grand final doesn't make you a better player. It just means you have better support around you. Fyfe had a elite midfield around him feeding him the ball and he still didn't get near Rockliffs stats.

 

[Shaneprice97]

There are atleast 20 midfielders better than Rockliff, i feel embarrassed about arguing about Beams being better than Rockliff, because even though Beams is better, Biased Lions supporters just wont give up.
Rockliff better than Fyfe? Not sure if trolling or not

 

[Bailey01]

Playing in a team that made the grand final doesn't make you a better player. It just means you have better support around you. Fyfe had a elite midfield around him feeding him the ball and he still didn't get near Rockliffs stats.

Yet averages more contested possessions and clearances than Rockliff.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Yet averages more contested possessions and clearances than Rockliff.

Averages 1 more contested possie and 0.1 more clearances. Wow!
Rocky's got him covered in almost every other area.

 

[Wild Bill]

Still waiting

Ok - I will drop to your level which should help.

Fyfe is a really grouse as player. He is the best mark and can run really fast and jump really high! He plays for Fremantle. He is a biggest champion in the world - actually the whole entire universe. He is a superstar on and off the universe football field.

Happy meow?

 

[38Rockliff38]

There are atleast 20 midfielders better than Rockliff, i feel embarrassed about arguing about Beams being better than Rockliff, because even though Beams is better, Biased Lions supporters just wont give up.
Rockliff better than Fyfe? Not sure if trolling or not

This is just my opinion, don't get your knickers in a knot

 

[Bailey01]

Averages 1 more contested possie and 0.1 more clearances. Wow!
Rocky's got him covered in almost every other area.

It's about the other things Fyfe does around the ground and yes he does have the occasional clanger kick but that seems to be your only argument against Fyfe. Stats are everything to you and thats the only way for you to compare players and knock on others.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Ok - I will drop to your level which should help.

Fyfe is a really grouse as player. He is the best mark and can run really fast and jump really high! He plays for Fremantle. He is a biggest champion in the world - actually the whole entire universe. He is a superstar on and off the universe football field.

Happy meow?

He can run and jump and handball. Why does that make him so good? He's nowhere near Rocky in terms of composure, ball use and decision making.

 

[Bailey01]

This is just my opinion, don't get your knickers in a knot

more like trolling

 

[Bailey01]

He can run and jump and handball. Why does that make him so good? He's nowhere near Rocky in terms of composure, ball use and decision making.

He is a game changer which Rockliff will never be.

 

[38Rockliff38]

It's about the other things Fyfe does around the ground and yes he does have the occasional clanger kick but that seems to be your only argument against Fyfe. Stats are everything to you and thats the only way for you to compare players and knock on others.

What else is there to compare? I've covered stats, leadership, injuries, off-field stuff. What else do you want me to say?