2012 Predictions

[tazaa]

Clearly bigfooty predictions mean a lot to North supporters. Already starting with the "please rate us".

Is it because no one is rating the dogs gussy??
Im just curious now that theres a fixture to take into account.
I cant find anything wrong with my post considering the easy draw weve been given.

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

3 posts since fixture comes out. And all have North missing finals. Trolling??
Has anyone seen our fixture??
Well start favourite in 14 possibly 15 of our matches??

There's favourites and then there's favourites. In most of those games you may be slight favourite, I'll give you that, but half of your games are line ball assessments at this stage.

You're a mid-tier side battling to be better than the other mid-tier sides. You can definitely make the eight, but I don't see any more than 12 wins max (you won't win every game you start slight favourite in) and I think you'll probably end up at 10 wins - just missing finals.

But nail an upset or two and win more of the 50-50 games, and you're definitely a big chance to make finals I reckon.

 

[Gus]

Is it because no one is rating the dogs gussy??
Im just curious now that theres a fixture to take into account.
I cant find anything wrong with my post considering the easy draw weve been given.

It's just bigfooty predictions. Most on here can't construct a sentence properly so I wouldn't be worried about them not rating the Dogs.

It's too early to judge whether it's an easy fixture. You play the same teams as everyone else. That is all that should be taken into account at this stage. Too many variables to make any other judgement. For example: some teams are stark bolters like WCE 2011, or sliders like Bulldogs 2011. How many people would have seen games against WCE this time last year and used them as an example of an "easy draw"?

North are still a middle of the range team. Trending towards the upper end of middle range. Good against teams around and below them, uncompetitive against the better teams. That is why people make their judgements, but in the end it's just their opinion.

 

[MaddAdam]

It's just bigfooty predictions. Most on here can't construct a sentence properly so I wouldn't be worried about them not rating the Dogs.

Last year I predicted on the equivalent thread that the Dogs would slide big time, miss the finals and dump Eade before season's end.

Some people are worth listening to.

 

[Gus]

Last year I predicted on the equivalent thread that the Dogs would slide big time, miss the finals and dump Eade before season's end.

Some people are worth listening to.

Most of the time this isn't you.

It's not as if that prediction was some sort of visionary statement. We were either going to remain good, or drop off considerably given the talent we had lost. And Eade was told at the start of the year Grand Final or bust.

 

[Kimbo]

Last year I predicted on the equivalent thread that the Dogs would slide big time, miss the finals and dump Eade before season's end.

Some people are worth listening to.

You're implying you can construct a sentence properly then, Mr Journalist?!

 

[hufus]

Had another go with the draw out. Obviously it's a little bit hacky, but I'm happy with it:

1: Hawthorn Hawks 76
2: Collingwood Magpies 68
3: Carlton Blues 64
4: West Coast Eagles 60
5: Geelong Cats 60
6: Sydney Swans 52
7: Fremantle Dockers 48
8: Essendon Bombers 48
9: Melbourne Demons 48
10: Western Bulldogs 48
11: Adelaide Crows 48
12: North Melbourne Kangaroos 40
13: Richmond Tigers 32
14: St. Kilda Saints 32
15: Brisbane Lions 16
16: Gold Coast Suns 16
17: Port Adelaide Power 16
18: GWS Giants 8

Sorry Saints, thought you'd be higher, but maybe not. As for Norf, I just don't rate them, even with a good fixture. I also think I only inflated the Dogs unreasonably by one game (round 1 at home v the Eagles), but I wanted them to have a chance at finals

Hawks to beat Carlton in the GF.

 

[bradrowe#32]

1. Carlton
2. Hawthorn
3. Collingwood
4. Geelong
5. West Coast
6. Sydney
7. Fremantle
8. North Melbourne
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9. Essendon
10. Richmond
11. St. Kilda
12. Melbourne
13. Western Bulldogs
14. Adelaide
15. Brisbane
16. Gold Coast
17. Port
18. GWS

 

[Patch Adams]

1. Collingwood Magpies
2. Hawthorn Hawks
3. Carlton Blues
4. St Kilda Saints
5. North Melbourne Kangaroos
6. Geelong Cats
7. Sydney Swans
8. Brisbane Lions
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9. Port Adelaide Power
10. West Coast Eagles
11. Fremantle Dockers
12. Richmond Tigers
13. Essendon Bombers
14. Melbourne Demons
15. Western Bulldogs
16. GC Suns
17. Adelaide Crows
18. GWS Giants

 

[ant0s]

1. Collingwood Magpies
2. Hawthorn Hawks
3. Carlton Blues
4. St Kilda Saints
5. North Melbourne Kangaroos
6. Geelong Cats
7. Sydney Swans
8. Brisbane Lions
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9. Port Adelaide Power
10. West Coast Eagles
11. Fremantle Dockers
12. Richmond Tigers
13. Essendon Bombers
14. Melbourne Demons
15. Western Bulldogs
16. GC Suns
17. Adelaide Crows
18. GWS Giants

comedy gold!

 

[Patch Adams]

comedy gold!

sorry, I forgot that no side has ever dropped 4 spots on the ladder

 

[smasha]

comedy gold!

I loled.

 

[JHF1870]

See! how quickly it changes now that we know the draw

Adelaide have 4 likely winnable games. Bookmark them for 7-12

should get at least 11 wins, possible 13

 

[mufassa]

1) Collingwood - best side when fully fit. Will have the hunger back after the bitter loss this year and will win it next year - Roos in 98, Cats in 2008 and Pies in 2011 will all have the same story to tell.
2) Hawks - fully fit will be a strong challenger to the Pies. Their top end talent are fantatic - Buddy, Hodge and Mitchell are all elite and exciting.
3) Blues - have been building nicely for a couple of years now and ready to become a big player in 2012. Would love to see them play a big final against the Pies. The greatest rivalry in the AFL on the big stage would be epic.
4)Cats - Still very strong but with Mooney, Ling and Milburn missing may find it hard to finish higher than the Blues and Hawks. Will still be a big threat and not a side you want to play in a final.
5) Freo - I am a Lyon fan and although I do not think he will be as defenive on the big WA ground he will make them a much tougher team. Surely they are due for a decent run with injuries.
6) Saints - The big unknown for me. Will the players be flat after such a disappointing year or refreshed with a new coach coming in. Great draw early could see them push for top 4.
7) Roos - long time since I have been so excited about an up coming year. Great draw and after the horror draw in 2011 will not be playing catch up all year.
8) WCE - tempted to have them miss but will still be strong at home. Like the rapid rise in 2011 they could also tumble just as quickly. They need their older players to be up and about agian to start the confidence ball rolling. Would not be surprised if they missed and 9th place Swans jump in,

9) Swans - not happy about them missing. This is the one I feel I will regret early in 2012. Another prediction thread and again Swans underrated.
10) Dogs - really will start to become a middle of the road team. Their forward line is a real worry and things in 2011 would have been a lot worse if not for Barry Hall. Cooney's knee is a big worrry as is Griffen's consistancy. Ward may have seen the writing on the wall.
11) Crows - if I did this last week they would have been down a couple of spots. Great draw will help but now have a massive hole in the back line with Davis and Bock leaving.
12) Essendon - like the last time they got smacked in a final they pulled their heads in like Turtles the following year. 2012 will be simialr and with the hype around Hird now gone those cheap early wins that allowed them to scrape into the 8 are gone. Stanton 2nd in B&F shows where this team is at.
13) Melbourne - another great draw will see little come of it. Jarrah sums them up perfectly - can be good in patches but when it all gets too hard put the hands on the hips, stop chasing and raise the white flag. See the game V Cats if anyone wants to stick up for this bruise free football team.
14) Richmond - flogged early, wins game late and then get excited about 2013 where they will get flogged early and win games late. Continue to repeat for as long as you like.
15) Brisbane - needs Brown to play a full year but he won't change his ways so that is little chance. Some good young mids coming through but Voss has put the team back with his drafting a few years back
16) Port - still think they will be better than the 2 new teams with Butcher to continue his rapid rise.
17) Suns - 3 wins in 2011 would be seen as a good result - maybe 5 in 2012? Will still cop some hidings and need a couple more pre-seasons to push up the ladder.
18) GWS - would be surprised if they are better than the Suns in their first year. 3 wins would be a great result. Tipping only 2.

 

[HurleyTheFuture]

1) Collingwood - best side when fully fit. Will have the hunger back after the bitter loss this year and will win it next year - Roos in 98, Cats in 2008 and Pies in 2011 will all have the same story to tell.
2) Hawks - fully fit will be a strong challenger to the Pies. Their top end talent are fantatic - Buddy, Hodge and Mitchell are all elite and exciting.
3) Blues - have been building nicely for a couple of years now and ready to become a big player in 2012. Would love to see them play a big final against the Pies. The greatest rivalry in the AFL on the big stage would be epic.
4)Cats - Still very strong but with Mooney, Ling and Milburn missing may find it hard to finish higher than the Blues and Hawks. Will still be a big threat and not a side you want to play in a final.
5) Freo - I am a Lyon fan and although I do not think he will be as defenive on the big WA ground he will make them a much tougher team. Surely they are due for a decent run with injuries.
6) Saints - The big unknown for me. Will the players be flat after such a disappointing year or refreshed with a new coach coming in. Great draw early could see them push for top 4.
7) Roos - long time since I have been so excited about an up coming year. Great draw and after the horror draw in 2011 will not be playing catch up all year.
8) WCE - tempted to have them miss but will still be strong at home. Like the rapid rise in 2011 they could also tumble just as quickly. They need their older players to be up and about agian to start the confidence ball rolling. Would not be surprised if they missed and 9th place Swans jump in,

9) Swans - not happy about them missing. This is the one I feel I will regret early in 2012. Another prediction thread and again Swans underrated.
10) Dogs - really will start to become a middle of the road team. Their forward line is a real worry and things in 2011 would have been a lot worse if not for Barry Hall. Cooney's knee is a big worrry as is Griffen's consistancy. Ward may have seen the writing on the wall.
11) Crows - if I did this last week they would have been down a couple of spots. Great draw will help but now have a massive hole in the back line with Davis and Bock leaving.
12) Essendon - like the last time they got smacked in a final they pulled their heads in like Turtles the following year. 2012 will be simialr and with the hype around Hird now gone those cheap early wins that allowed them to scrape into the 8 are gone. Stanton 2nd in B&F shows where this team is at.
13) Melbourne - another great draw will see little come of it. Jarrah sums them up perfectly - can be good in patches but when it all gets too hard put the hands on the hips, stop chasing and raise the white flag. See the game V Cats if anyone wants to stick up for this bruise free football team.
14) Richmond - flogged early, wins game late and then get excited about 2013 where they will get flogged early and win games late. Continue to repeat for as long as you like.
15) Brisbane - needs Brown to play a full year but he won't change his ways so that is little chance. Some good young mids coming through but Voss has put the team back with his drafting a few years back
16) Port - still think they will be better than the 2 new teams with Butcher to continue his rapid rise.
17) Suns - 3 wins in 2011 would be seen as a good result - maybe 5 in 2012? Will still cop some hidings and need a couple more pre-seasons to push up the ladder.
18) GWS - would be surprised if they are better than the Suns in their first year. 3 wins would be a great result. Tipping only 2.

Lol

Again and again you fail to beat top teams like we fail to beat lower teams
Bad kicking lost us the game last time not gonna happen next time around
I guess your still mad that you didnt make the 8

 

[Schulzenfest]

The fact that you have us 12th and You 7th is lol worthy

No it isn't. As a neutral, I can definitely see North finishing above Essendon this year. Neither of those results would surprise me.

 

[HurleyTheFuture]

No it isn't. As a neutral, I can definitely see North finishing above Essendon this year. Neither of those results would surprise me.

Your probably right considering essendons inconsistency but comparing our 2009 season to 2011 is ridiculous we didnt deserve it then but we did this year

 

[mufassa]

Lol
The fact that you have us 12th and You 7th is lol worthy as well as you ahead of WC
Again and again you fail to beat top teams like we fail to beat lower teams
Bad kicking lost us the game last time not gonna happen next time around
I guess your still mad that you didnt make the 8

Last time you made finals you went from 8th to 14th. If you don't think it can happen again then I cannot protect you from the heart break heading your way.

As for not playing finals this year - well that makes both of us. 44 scoring shots to 22 and a ten goal hiding..

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

I can't see North finishing above the Dons, especially if Watson is fit for the whole season.

 

[The Donners]

Last time you made finals you went from 8th to 14th. If you don't think it can happen again then I cannot protect you from the heart break heading your way.

As for not playing finals this year - well that makes both of us. 44 scoring shots to 22 and a ten goal hiding..

Last time North finished 9th one year they finished 9th the following year. North will finish 9th by your logic.

I'm not knocking your opinion on where Essendon will finish by they way, you're obviously entitle to your opinion like I am.

 

[mufassa]

Last time North finished 9th one year they finished 9th the following year. North will finish 9th by your logic.

Sounds fair - I have the Roos 2 spots too high at 7 and Essendon 2 spots too high at 12.

 

[Wernumberone]

No it isn't. As a neutral, I can definitely see North finishing above Essendon this year. Neither of those results would surprise me.

Of course you said we would be lucky to win 5 games last year, so, you, know....

FWIW North could finish above us just like many many other possible outcomes.

 

[mufassa]

Last time North finished 9th one year they finished 9th the following year. North will finish 9th by your logic.

I'm not knocking your opinion on where Essendon will finish by they way, you're obviously entitle to your opinion like I am.

And as you have Essendon at 4th and me having them 12th we have completely different opinions. If they finish 8th we will call it a nil all draw.

 

[mufassa]

I can't see North finishing above the Dons, especially if Watson is fit for the whole season.

A massive "if" TPM. Soft tissue injuries get worse as you get older. How many times did he ping the hammy in 2011 - 3??

 

[HurleyTheFuture]

I can't see North finishing above the Dons, especially if Watson is fit for the whole season.

Twice and I think that it was a different leg.., It was previously not a problem , would of came in the top 5 of the brownlow if he played all games