List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Trade FA Megathread

[Wright 1]

Anyone else hear that Bulldogs supporter on TWR crying. He asked why the Saints were getting involved with Boyd if we wanted Petracca?
I am sure I heard him sobbing...

 

[sixtosaint]

If either club can get him this year it will be a bonus, it'll attract other players in the future, memberships etc. It could be the turning point for either club.

 

[Keg on legs]

Wow! This fortnight just keeps getting weirder! Has anyone ever seen a trade period like this? where the team who holds pick one is happy to trade it, yet (externally at least) has fast become a bit player! Come on pelican, I have faith still... But bloody hell, give me something!

 

[Doggies_13]

Sorry for the intrusion just wondering what your cap space situation is for this season, as the rumour is we are offering $2m first year to boyd do you have similar room or?

 

[Baker_for_PM]

I'm pretty sure he'll still be able to show his face in society if he gets traded out one year into his time there. As long as you respect yourself and are true to yourself you don't need anyone else's respect. In footy contracts get broken all the time anyway, just ask Scott Watters, Brenton Sanderson, Guy McKenna, Dom Tyson (who GWS trade while under contract last year), etc.

And all he's doing is asking the question here. They are perfectly free to say no if they don't want to trade him, or if they aren't able to do a deal that benefits them. He could be doing them a favour if he's just going to walk when uncontracted in 12 months time anyway.

Im not advocating making him a pariah and handing out pitchforks just we have a tendency to latch on to the bad of someone rather then the good and i wouldn't want this to tarnish his reputation. Those Coaches didn't look to opt out of their contracts which i see as the difference, If GWS went to Boyd and said the Doggies have made an offer what are your intentions next year are you prepared to be traded now then i have no problem with him and all the cash splashed at him.

 

[HayesTheChamp]

Sorry for the intrusion just wondering what your cap space situation is for this season, as the rumour is we are offering $2m first year to boyd do you have similar room or?

Fairly similar to you guys I would suspect.

 

[Barrels]

I've been trying to tone it down.

Cocaines a hell of a drug...

 

[Saint Luke]

Sorry for the intrusion just wondering what your cap space situation is for this season, as the rumour is we are offering $2m first year to boyd do you have similar room or?

Obviously can't know to any certainty, but suggestions are we have more/similar room.

 

[sixtosaint]

Sorry for the intrusion just wondering what your cap space situation is for this season, as the rumour is we are offering $2m first year to boyd do you have similar room or?

We would have a lot, not quite sure on the Bulldogs level, from memory riewoldt is the highest paid and only gets 600,000ish these days as they have the balance like geelong did.

 

[TheLastEmperor]

Sorry for the intrusion just wondering what your cap space situation is for this season, as the rumour is we are offering $2m first year to boyd do you have similar room or?

Our cap is in a very, very strong position.

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Sorry for the intrusion just wondering what your cap space situation is for this season, as the rumour is we are offering $2m first year to boyd do you have similar room or?

It doesn't matter what your offer is, he's contracted to GWS, you could offer him $10million to be captain coach but if you don't have currency other than an injury prone 29 year old GWS won't entertain your offer.

 

[Doggies_13]

Fairly similar to you guys I would suspect.

Obviously can't know to any certainty, but suggestions are we have more/similar room.

Okay thanks thought we may have something more give Griffen, Higgins and Cooney all gone or going

 

[TheLastEmperor]

Okay thanks thought we may have something more give Griffen, Higgins and Cooney all gone or going

Goddard, Milne, Kosi, Dal Santo, Hayes, McEvoy, Riewoldt on a reduced contract etc, etc....

 

[Baughb]

This is why I was hoping we'd get pick one, if you don't win the flag and have a losing season, no one cares if you have pick 2,3,4,5 or 10.
It's all about losing to become better, I hope the penny is dropping finally for you passionate anti losing Saints fans.

I get what you mean about not wanting to flounder in the mid-table and I don't think anyone underestimates the power of pick 1 but if getting pick 1 is at the expense of a competitive culture then you can understand the hesitance to want to loose, especially after watching Melbourne sink into their current hole. Plus it just doesn't sit right actually wanting our beloved Saints to loose and premierships cost more than top draft picks.

No arguments here though! We've got pick one and we're sailing what seems to be a pretty steady ship considering Future Fest, no saints jumping ship and all the rabble around other clubs. We're aware of what we need to do and are willing to trade short term gain for our future (hence Goddard, Dal Santo and McEvoy). Lets use our currency while we've got and not worry too much about short term ladder position but also be careful not to get too enamoured by pick 1 (i.e. getting the spoon) and actually try to loose.

 

[sixtosaint]

Okay thanks thought we may have something more give Griffen, Higgins and Cooney all gone or going

That was our dal santo, Goddard etc, we haven't given out any big contracts since then just spread it among the futurefest I imagine.

 

[Doggies_13]

Goddard, Milne, Kosi, Dal Santo, Hayes, McEvoy, Riewoldt on a reduced contract etc, etc....

Only thing only Hayes has left this season the other would have had to be allocated as each team must pay 95% of the cap each season

 

[HayesTheChamp]

Only thing only Hayes has left this season the other would have had to be allocated as each team must pay 95% of the cap each season

Yeah, but the point still stands, it meant our senior players wouldve gradually had their contracts front loaded to ensure greater cap space later on. It would've been a transitional type process. So while we were strapped in 2012, it would / should be in a very good position now.

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Not anymore they don't, you can bank credits and then pay over the cap in future years.

 

[Curunir]

Only thing only Hayes has left this season the other would have had to be allocated as each team must pay 95% of the cap each season

Front ended contracts... If it comes down to a bidding war can't see you guys beating us unless Boyd just really wants to join you.

 

[Joffaboy]

And still our worst case scenario is Petracca @ #1

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Apart from this Boyd noise, I wonder what else has been thrown our way today?
Would love to see what Melbournes intentions are.

 

[TheLastEmperor]

Only thing only Hayes has left this season the other would have had to be allocated as each team must pay 95% of the cap each season

We have been struggling to pay minimum TPP. Believe me, we can match the offer. But hope we don't. Stupid paying an unproven 19 y/o that type of money.

 

[Curunir]

I'm thinking of not checking Bigfooty/AFL/or any other afl related websites for the next 3 days and open them all up on Friday morning.. Worth a try?

 

[saintsrfreak]

Apart from this Boyd noise, I wonder what else has been thrown our way today?
Would love to see what Melbournes intentions are.

Seems like they'll be pretty content with Brayshaw and McCartin, would be a great outcome for them

 

[Rough_Edges]

Apart from this Boyd noise, I wonder what else has been thrown our way today?
Would love to see what Melbournes intentions are.

It's been another slow day news wise really.

Only trade that got done was one that was pretty much confirmed on the weekend.

Need these Beams, Ryder, Griffen trades to get done to get things rolling.