2015 Draft, Trade & Free Agent Discussion & Speculation Thread

[13then7]

Powell would be worth a rookie spot IMO, few of the Eagles WAFL watches really rated him and his stats look pretty decent for someone who's been bouncing between attack and defence. 99% won't happen though.

Those same supporters wanted Priddus dropped middle of last year.

 

[jinxd]

Well, Spencer White has a great highlights video ... If he produces that consistently then he'd be an upgrade on Tabs IMO. Not sure about the others.


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[TheMcManusNose]

Those same supporters wanted Priddus dropped middle of last year.

So? The fact that it's being discussed, to me shows they know a bit more about football than old mate off the street. They had, and still have, excellent points about his disposal, speed and whether he's a net benefit to the team (they beat the Hawks without him). His year this year has been much better (less kicking, less link-up play).

Don't be a pillock and assume every poster on their board has the same opinion, or write off any opinion based solely on it coming from a West Coast fan.

 

[13then7]

So? The fact that it's being discussed, to me shows they know a bit more about football than old mate off the street. They had, and still have, excellent points about his disposal, speed and whether he's a net benefit to the team (they beat the Hawks without him). His year this year has been much better (less kicking, less link-up play).

Don't be a pillock and assume every poster on their board has the same opinion, or write off any opinion based solely on it coming from a West Coast fan.

Ok! A little sensitive there? Got nothing to do with them being WCE fan btw. I know many have a lot to offer.

I've always found that it's a good policy to pick up players that have been delisted by other clubs. (At this point I will take the time to point out that that is sarcasm as you obviously didn't pick up on the tongue in cheek nature of my last post.)

I'd actually be interested to see the success rate with that.

 

[ritz]

Then what you going to do when Sandi and pav retire and nobody trade with our second rate player , fyfe our Chris Judd, hills our Yarran . then as a team we get chop. You will keep saying they haven't been much chop.

Sorry but I don't get what you're trying to say


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[meima]

Sorry but I don't get what you're trying to say


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is OK as long as I get what you saying.

 

[Cevap_Roll]

Sorry to intrude but hopefully this is the right place to post this.
We need a small forward you guys need a 1st round pick.

What are your thoughts on our Pick 12 for Ballantine and Pick22?

At 29 next season I think thats a more than fair trade and we can than use 22 for Yarran while hopefully our 12 gets you Mcarthy.

 

[rgauci]

Sorry to intrude but hopefully this is the right place to post this.
We need a small forward you guys need a 1st round pick.

What are your thoughts on our Pick 12 for Ballantine and Pick22?

At 29 next season I think thats a more than fair trade and we can than use 22 for Yarran while hopefully our 12 gets you Mcarthy.

I'm not big on trading away top end older talent while we are in the window.

 

[Cevap_Roll]

I'm not big on trading away top end older talent while we are in the window.

A McCarthy and Bennell off season would be huge for you guys and the only best 22 player you would lose in Ballantine.
Whats Croziers development going like? I know we have shown interest in the past.

Although I wouldnt offer the same scenario for him.

 

[MadDocker]

He wouldn't agreee to the trade, so, moot point really.

No way he leaves WA. Would just stop playing AFL.

 

[Cevap_Roll]

He wouldn't agreee to the trade, so, moot point really.

No way he leaves WA. Would just stop playing AFL.

Anyone else you think would hold the same value?
I guess it all depends if u guys are any chance of GWS letting McCarthy go.

 

[rgauci]

Anyone else you think would hold the same value?
I guess it all depends if u guys are any chance of GWS letting McCarthy go.

We struggle for forwards as it is. Plus it's only a 10 pick upgrade. Points wise equivalent to somewhere late in the 2nd round?

No-ones convinced 12 and next years first get it done anyway.

 

[rgauci]

Anyone else you think would hold the same value?
I guess it all depends if u guys are any chance of GWS letting McCarthy go.

I'd prefer Griffiths than some small draft upgrade. Then we can not worry about paying overs for McCarthy.

 

[blue shark]

In 1997 GF Crows had Jarman, Ellen as leading goal kickers, we have already picked up Bennell who can replicate Jarmans
freaky skill set, and our Ellen type is Alex Pearce.
Whether we aquire McCarthy or not, we have done the best out of all clubs, on recruiting the one player with the most
Talent.
Add a couple of key positions, Black, Shaw, and mature agers and we have done enough to be in contention next year.

 

[Bradesmaen]

at least they got rid of Danger though, surely Hampton is an upgrade on him in your eyes??

Hampton is a downgrade, thats how bad that guy is. He couldn't get a game at GWS!

 

[Taylor]

This is going to sound a bit punny buy Spencer White was labeled Buddy Franklin Lite when drafted, he just didn't have the substance.

Boom- tish

 

[Cevap_Roll]

I'd prefer Griffiths than some small draft upgrade. Then we can not worry about paying overs for McCarthy.

Was going to suggest him but not many outsiders rate him.
He would benefit heaps being the number 1 target. Good mark and long kick but his hunger for the pill is sometimes questioned. Like I said make him the focus point and things will change.

Pick 22 alone would see it get done.

 

[Cobbler]

Sorry to intrude but hopefully this is the right place to post this.
We need a small forward you guys need a 1st round pick.

What are your thoughts on our Pick 12 for Ballantine and Pick22?

At 29 next season I think thats a more than fair trade and we can than use 22 for Yarran while hopefully our 12 gets you Mcarthy.

Not the worst mate. I agree with others that Ballas wouldn't leave but all else being equal it's fair.
That said I think both clubs would seriously entertain the idea if it resulted in you getting Yarran and us getting McCarthy.
We would probably need another pick thrown out way because we have cleared out a few. Your second would probably be overs but that's what I'd ask but we definitely need your 3rd.
You'd hope Crozier could cover or even Pearce pushed forward as another small forward.
Yeah not the worst idea.

 

[rgauci]

Was going to suggest him but not many outsiders rate him.
He would benefit heaps being the number 1 target. Good mark and long kick but his hunger for the pill is sometimes questioned. Like I said make him the focus point and things will change.

Pick 22 alone would see it get done.

I would give up 22 for Griffiths.

 

[go_the_dockers]

In 1997 GF Crows had Jarman, Ellen as leading goal kickers, we have already picked up Bennell who can replicate Jarmans
freaky skill set, and our Ellen type is Alex Pearce.
Whether we aquire McCarthy or not, we have done the best out of all clubs, on recruiting the one player with the most
Talent.
Add a couple of key positions, Black, Shaw, and mature agers and we have done enough to be in contention next year.

McLeod was devastating and kicked multiple goals and plays more like Bennell.

Jarman Is more like Walters, super intelligent football player.

They also had blight as coach who is the opposite style coach to Ross.

ELlen was a defender from memory, hadn't kicked 10 goals in his career it would be like Ibbo kicking 4 for us.

They also had Robran who was a very good CHF.

 

[Cevap_Roll]

Not the worst mate. I agree with others that Ballas wouldn't leave but all else being equal it's fair.
That said I think both clubs would seriously entertain the idea if it resulted in you getting Yarran and us getting McCarthy.
We would probably need another pick thrown out way because we have cleared out a few. Your second would probably be overs but that's what I'd ask but we definitely need your 3rd.
You'd hope Crozier could cover or even Pearce pushed forward as another small forward.
Yeah not the worst idea.

I would like to keep our 2nd as I believe it will be our 2nd and Astbury for Lions 17. Our 3rd as token pick I would do the deal.
I dont like the idea of you guys getting stronger but its needed to obtain a player of Ballas quality. We need a small forward.

 

[Cobbler]

I would like to keep our 2nd as I believe it will be our 2nd and Astbury for Lions 17. Our 3rd as token pick I would do the deal.
I dont like the idea of you guys getting stronger but its needed to obtain a player of Ballas quality. We need a small forward.

Well you guys would get stronger too!
You need Ballas at the feet of your talls, I think he is a bit shot being asked to play a certain way. Playing as a true crumber with some defensive pressure he'd fit in to the game style of Richmond.
Like I said if all parties knew it would get the second deal done it would be silly not to consider it.
At the end of the day we've effectively still lost pick 22, future first round and Ballantyne and although it overs for McCarthy it's likely what they'd accept. Like I said many on here will disagree and I do to, to a point but it is roughly what'll take.
Morris and Ballas at training worth it just for the lols.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I would like to keep our 2nd as I believe it will be our 2nd and Astbury for Lions 17. Our 3rd as token pick I would do the deal.
I dont like the idea of you guys getting stronger but its needed to obtain a player of Ballas quality. We need a small forward.

Draft Rioli with your 1st pick would be a better bet.

I would trade pick 22 for McBean and your 3rd round pick assuming the McCarthy trade is dead.

 

[apuchar]

That's what we thought of that son of a former Docker who is now a dirty budgie... and look how that turned out.

Yeah I wouldn't mind that kind of fat and slow.

 

[youbeautfyfe]

If feels like since we drafted Pavlich we have not drafted a good key forward since. That's more than 15 years...

If the solution of getting a key forward by trading is not working then we should really consider our list manager and scouters roles. McCarthy was picked 12th, we could have easily traded to be in the top 10 to grab him before GWS do and we would have given up much less than we will now. And Hogan - not sure why we didn't go more aggressive on this one. GWS stated they wanted an established player (and probably a pick) for the right to draft him in the mini draft. Melbourne got away with murder on that one. Everyone knew he was going to be a gun eventually, needed to be more aggressive.

Let's stop trying to poach other teams key forwards as it has not worked at all over the past 5 years. We need to develop our own, but it starts with being in a position to draft the right one.