Strategy 2016 Draft Needs

[Captain Furious]

Na different type

Explosive, quick more in your Eddie betts mould

Oh, so like Jarrod Pickett, the small forward they got at 4 in the draft 2 years ago, who despite having some injury problems, Leon Cameron described as electrifying and exciting.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Oh, so like Jarrod Pickett, the small forward they got at 4 in the draft 2 years ago, who despite having some injury problems, Leon Cameron described as electrifying and exciting.

Nothing like Jarrod Pickett. He's more a quick, agile, exciting wingman.

Ainsworth is a genuine small forward with great aerial skills, goal sense, pace and explosiveness.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Third Round onwards but is more likely a rookie pick.

Reckon he goes late draft. I'd definitely draft him if available

 

[Captain Furious]

Nothing like Jarrod Pickett. He's more a quick, agile, exciting wingman.

Ainsworth is a genuine small forward with great aerial skills, goal sense, pace and explosiveness.

That's funny, the first words on Pickett's profile on the GWS website are 'small forward'.

The point I'm obviously trying to make is that if you already have Toby Greene and Jarrod Pickett on your list, another small forward is pretty unlikely to be top of your shopping list. Especially when that small forward is a Vic Metro kid and you have four top line Academy players to choose from.

GWS will choose Setterfield, Macreadie, Mutch and Sproule. They just will. Wrap it up and send it to your mum. Done. Don't worry about them anymore.

 

[Danger in Texas]

That's funny, the first words on Pickett's profile on the GWS website are 'small forward'.

The point I'm obviously trying to make is that if you already have Toby Greene and Jarrod Pickett on your list, another small forward is pretty unlikely to be top of your shopping list. Especially when that small forward is a Vic Metro kid and you have four top line Academy players to choose from.

GWS will choose Setterfield, Macreadie, Mutch and Sproule. They just will. Wrap it up and send it to your mum. Done. Don't worry about them anymore.

Trust me, Pickett is definitely a wingman, or maybe a high half forward. That's where he's mostly played in U18's/NEAFL. Greene is a high half forward. Ainsworth is a genuine small forward who's best playing deep in the 50, creating havoc amongst the opposing side's defence. GWS have many high half-forwards, but I would argue they have no very good 'small forwards'

Do have a feeling GWS will get a top 5 pick though (in addition to Setters/Perryman/Sproule/Mutch/Macreadie), they have three firsts already and will be getting more picks for the kids they're losing (Marchbank, Steele etc.). They'll get either McGrath (long-term replacement for Shaw) or Ainsworth if so.

 

[grundog49]

That's funny, the first words on Pickett's profile on the GWS website are 'small forward'.

The point I'm obviously trying to make is that if you already have Toby Greene and Jarrod Pickett on your list, another small forward is pretty unlikely to be top of your shopping list. Especially when that small forward is a Vic Metro kid and you have four top line Academy players to choose from.

GWS will choose Setterfield, Macreadie, Mutch and Sproule. They just will. Wrap it up and send it to your mum. Done. Don't worry about them anymore.

Mutch and either Macreadie/Sproule are not going to be taken just because they are academy kids. Mutch doesn't fit needs. Macreadie or Sproule are subjective choices as they both provide similar things as talls. They have to think big picture as they can't just rely on kids from their academy.

 

[Captain Furious]

Trust me, Pickett is definitely a wingman, or maybe a high half forward. That's where he's mostly played in U18's/NEAFL. Greene is a high half forward. Ainsworth is a genuine small forward who's best playing deep in the 50, creating havoc amongst the opposing side's defence. GWS have many high half-forwards, but I would argue they have no very good 'small forwards'

Do have a feeling GWS will get a top 5 pick though (in addition to Setters/Perryman/Sproule/Mutch/Macreadie), they have three firsts already and will be getting more picks for the kids they're losing (Marchbank, Steele etc.). They'll get either McGrath (long-term replacement for Shaw) or Ainsworth if so.

Sure. I'll trust you. I'll ignore what everyone else, including his own club, says. Why not? We know he's played in the midfield, like pretty much every good small forward ever.

p.s. Ainsworth has played the last half of the season in the midfield. Does that mean he's not a genuine small forward?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Sure. I'll trust you. I'll ignore what everyone else, including his own club, says. Why not? We know he's played in the midfield, like pretty much every good small forward ever.

p.s. Ainsworth has played the last half of the season in the midfield. Does that mean he's not a genuine small forward?

Clearly you don't understand what I mean. Ainsworth is a completely different player to Pickett and Greene, and is a type who GWS don't have. Yes he's played in the midfield, from my point of view though I don't think he quite has the tank (YET) to play in the midfield effectively at AFL level.

 

[Captain Furious]

Mutch and either Macreadie/Sproule are not going to be taken just because they are academy kids. Mutch doesn't fit needs. Macreadie or Sproule are subjective choices as they both provide similar things as talls. They have to think big picture as they can't just rely on kids from their academy.

Sure. Let's wait and see.

They are - very intelligently - building a team that will be made up almost entirely of players that have trained and played together - in a system of their own club's devising - since they were kids. Players that won't want to run home to mummy in Melbourne. That will make them very, very hard to beat.

 

[Captain Furious]

Clearly you don't understand what I mean. Ainsworth is a completely different player to Pickett and Greene, and is a type who GWS don't have. Yes he's played in the midfield, from my point of view though I don't think he quite has the tank (YET) to play in the midfield effectively at AFL level.

Yes, I understand what you mean. I just think you're wrong. I don't see Ainsworth as that radically different to particularly Green or Devon Smith, who can also play that role. They just don't need another small forward. But hey, we'll see.

 

[Bicks]

Third Round onwards but is more likely a rookie pick.

I'd rookie Sean Darcy, get him in an AFL system to work on his fitness and I think he'll surprise big time....tap work is already excellent.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Oh, so like Jarrod Pickett, the small forward they got at 4 in the draft 2 years ago, who despite having some injury problems, Leon Cameron described as electrifying and exciting.

nope

he's an outside mid that lacks professionalism to get fit enough so they put him up forward at times

ainsworth is different

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Yes, I understand what you mean. I just think you're wrong. I don't see Ainsworth as that radically different to particularly Green or Devon Smith, who can also play that role. They just don't need another small forward. But hey, we'll see.

they came outa nd said they needed a small forward, i've heard their list manager say it

they have also had strong interest in michael walters for last 18 months and have been rumoured to want to trade with essendon for pick 1

it's just a theory based on all of this so we will see

 

[grundog49]

I'd rookie Sean Darcy, get him in an AFL system to work on his fitness and I think he'll surprise big time....tap work is already excellent.

I wouldnt touch Darcy until our last rookie pick. He's in the mould of the old style ruckman and even with a weight watchers diet will still not be Agile or mobile enough for AFL level. Tap work is something that can be easily taught. Learning to have impact around the ground is hard to teach.

 

[grundog49]

Ainsworth is a dedicated small Forward where as Pickett and Greene can play forward but have better impact up the ground. Ainsworth can play in the midfield but he's not as impactful there as he is in the forward 50.

I reckon they also lack a medium forward. Someone in the Aaron Young mould who can take games by the throat. Tiziani and Hayward would fit that mould well as they create matchup problems forward.

 

[Bicks]

If we need late midfielders our best bet in the second and third rounds is William Drew. Is already a great height at 188 cm, wins clearances and has speed to him as well. Watched him against the Pioneers and has alot of AFL traits. Kicking isn't too bad but could do with some work.

I've seen almost all of the Rebels home games and a couple away and my ratings in this draft on pure talent, Jarrod Berry is the one I believe is the "value" pick for us...WILL play and excel in the midfield and/or HF or HB if required, leadership/character in spades!

1. Hugh McCluggage
2 .Jarrod Berry
3. Willem Drew
4. Cedric Cox
5 .Cal Wellings
6. Tom Williamson
7. Jarrod Korewha
8 .Jarmaine Jones
9. Sam White
10.. James Gow


McCluggage long gone at our pick, Berry may be available only because he's had an injury compromised season and has been unable to get continuity to back up his stellar under age year, excellent overhead, great intercept mark, line breaker, long kick, contested beast, great size and build, kicks goals when played forward, athletically gifted, Drew I agree, once he bulks up a bit will compliment any AFL midfield, loves the contest and is deceptively quick, good overhead and works hard off the ball as well, Cox is quick, good overhead, great disposal ,but a bit too outside for my liking and not really a list need IMO, Wellings is underrated, needs to bulk up a bit but good speed, very good user by foot and good blend of inside/outside and has stepped up and shown great leadership when McCluggage, Drew and Berry have been unavailable through U18 Championship commitments etc and injury, Williamson I really like for a late/rookie pick, elite endurance, good skills, reasonably quick, played mainly off half back with stints in the midfield, Korewha been played almost exclusively in defence, IMO that's not his go, Wing/Attack is where he will excel, Sam White another a bit underrated, good overhead, equally adept down back or up forward, Jarmaine Jones fierce at the contest, great tackler, dangerous around goals, James Gow over age ball magnet but probably struggles to get drafted.

Two for 2017 Aiden Domic and Jordan Johnston.

 

[Bicks]

I wouldnt touch Darcy until our last rookie pick. He's in the mould of the old style ruckman and even with a weight watchers diet will still not be Agile or mobile enough for AFL level. Tap work is something that can be easily taught. Learning to have impact around the ground is hard to teach.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree..

 

[LikeATiger9]

I'd rookie Sean Darcy, get him in an AFL system to work on his fitness and I think he'll surprise big time....tap work is already excellent.

Agree 100%. Fitness the only issue. Watched live a couple of times and his tap work is definitely high quality.

 

[Bicks]

Latest episode (24) of the AFL Podcast "Road To The Draft".....

listen to this on Audioboo

 

[Jeffcrowe]

interestingly sticks rates cox and graham as the first 2 SA kids to go in draft ...I reckon Hayward might split them

 

[Captain Furious]

nope

he's an outside mid that lacks professionalism to get fit enough so they put him up forward at times

ainsworth is different

Oh really? Is that so? He's yet to debut. He had a season ending foot injury in April.

It doesn't matter how many times you say he's a mid. If his own club are calling him a small forward, I think I'll go with that. Sorry. Not sorry.

 

[Captain Furious]

they came outa nd said they needed a small forward, i've heard their list manager say it

they have also had strong interest in michael walters for last 18 months and have been rumoured to want to trade with essendon for pick 1

it's just a theory based on all of this so we will see

If the want pick 1 it's definitely not for Ainsworth. He may not even go top 10.

 

[AdelaideFan14]

GWS supposedly want McGrath early in the draft as well. I assume he would be a replacement for Shaw when he retires.

 

[Danger in Texas]

He may not even go top 10.

Bar injury/stupidity (Curnow-like stuff), I'd bet my BF account on him going top 10, honestly

 

[Danger in Texas]

GWS supposedly want McGrath early in the draft as well. I assume he would be a replacement for Shaw when he retires.

Yeah this was my initial thoughts, but I think McGrath is a mid long-term, who knows though