Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[Matty411]

See it's things like that. Someone having Brodie drop to GC at 11 makes me nervous about taking him at 5.
If he would drop to 11 it must be a stretch to take him at 5, no?

I would take Ainsworth at 5 if he falls that far. Who else would Brisbane take in his place? (I don't think he will drop, but hypothetically who else might Bris take?)

I'll stop you right there Coops. Brodie would NOT be a reach at 5 - if anything, he'd be a slider after the year he's had.

Nobody will be unhappy about seeing him in the #5 Navy Blue guernsey should he be drafted to us.

 

[HARKER]

The more I think about it, the more I can see reasons why we wouldn't take Brodie and take one of Taranto/SPS/Scrimshaw.

Nothing against Brodie, but he just doesn't seem to me as someone who makes things happen, whereas the aforementioned have the ability to do so.

 

[Arr0w]

Bishops Phantom Draft

Just posted his Phantom with some interesting calls. (Post #3)
I wouldn't be surprised should we go down a path similar to the first pick, but can't see us taking what he has put forward with his second.

Yes a couple of surprises:

1. If ESS take Mcgrath, I believe GWS would look at Ainsworth
2. Suprised if C. Cox goes that early, but he does have a higher ceiling
3. Feel Bolton will be picked up before pick 40
3. If we were looking at a KPP at 25 I would rate B. Cox in front of Kerr (Would be great to have a crack at Kerr in the 3rd round) If it was a mid, Bolton, Drew, Fisher, would be great picks also.

The guys he has us taking from 3rd round onward, I would be very happy with, especially Lebois

 

[HARKER]

I actually think Taranto is more than likelier than Brodie from what I hear.
I think SPS is a better fit for the Blues, plays both outside and inside - was very good this season after having a hammy issue during the middle of the year. His game in the All Stars was great, but his body of work throughout the season has been good.
I think Brodie has been a bit up and down at times, with injury and a few things. Not doubt he's very professional, but from what I saw of him he'd rather rest than play games at 75-80% peak fitness, whereas others pushed through.

Bishops reply. Makes sense to me when laid out like that.

 

[Space Cadet]

Haven't watched a game but reading this thread has sold me on both Brodie and Taranto. Sounds like choosing between a potential Kennedy or Parker.
Didn't Trigg say we're looking at midfielder/forward hybrids on the radio recently? Also a few weeks earlier someone mentioned Bolton wants players that can win their own ball (maybe in the bluemour thread?). I'd be leaning towards Taranto if that's the way we're going.

 

[Jimmae]

Pick 25 is crucial for us, because while there will be talent at 48, you can guarantee that they're not going to be a complete mid or a quality tall/tall utility.

Imagine Marshall, Florent, Venables, Bolton or Withedren being available there! Atley at 48 would be amazing too. I wish we'd been able to acquire more picks in the 25-40 range.

Bishops Phantom Draft

Just posted his Phantom with some interesting calls. (Post #3)
I wouldn't be surprised should we go down a path similar to the first pick, but can't see us taking what he has put forward with his second.

Some of his ratings are head scratch-worthy as well.

 

[HARKER]

Pick 25 is crucial for us, because while there will be talent at 48, you can guarantee that they're not going to be a complete mid or a quality tall/tall utility.
Imagine Marshall, Florent, Venables, Bolton or Withedren being available there! Atley at 48 would be amazing too. I wish we'd been able to acquire more picks in the 25-40 range.
Some of his ratings are head scratch-worthy as well.

As are going to be some selections on the night.

Who predicted Doedee, Fiorini and Lovell to be top 20 last year?

 

[HARKER]

Haven't watched a game but reading this thread has sold me on both Brodie and Taranto. Sounds like choosing between a potential Kennedy or Parker.
Didn't Trigg say we're looking at midfielder/forward hybrids on the radio recently? Also a few weeks earlier someone mentioned Bolton wants players that can win their own ball (maybe in the bluemour thread?). I'd be leaning towards Taranto if that's the way we're going.

He did and which is why someone like Taranto fits, for us.
SPS is also an inside/outside mid....leaning on outside....with serious hurt factor.

We may just opt for the pure inside mid @ #25.........early days though.

 

[Jimmae]

As are going to be some selections on the night.

Who predicted Doedee, Fiorini and Lovell to be top 20 last year?

I predicted that Doedee would get drafted, and Lovell would go higher than people expected, but Adelaide made a ridiculous call with Doedee.

He has amazing athletic attributes and is a disciplined defender, but he can't kick. Defensive stalwart potential, but you don't purely pick for that in the first round for a medium/small defender.

 

[Arr0w]

See it's things like that. Someone having Brodie drop to GC at 11 makes me nervous about taking him at 5.
If he would drop to 11 it must be a stretch to take him at 5, no?

I would take Ainsworth at 5 if he falls that far. Who else would Brisbane take in his place? (I don't think he will drop, but hypothetically who else might Bris take?)

Brodie has polarised a few of us, especially me. Some say he is top 2, some say around the 10 mark. No matter where he is taken, he will play 150 - 200 games

That's a very good career in anyone's eyes

I'll stop you right there Coops. Brodie would NOT be a reach at 5 - if anything, he'd be a slider after the year he's had.

Nobody will be unhappy about seeing him in the #5 Navy Blue guernsey should he be drafted to us.

Matty, you and I have differed on this, so no disrespect, Brodie may be seen as a slider at 2 or a bargain at 10, whichever one it is we will find out in years to come, lets just say he is a top 10 footballer this year, so he is in the discussion with a few names.

 

[ray8182]

You would think that whoever we take @pick 5 potentially changes who will be looking at with our 2nd.
If we took someone like Scrimshaw or SPS @pick5, then with our 2nd look at one of
Dylan Clarke, Will Drew, Jonty Scharenberg or Sam Powell-Pepper as inside ball winners.

Dylan Clarke was ranked 1st for contested possession in TAC cup averaging almost 17 per game.
Drew ranked 3rd

Yes l think pick 5 could easy impact 25. I really like SPS and if Carlton did pick him l think it makes an inside mid at 25 more likely.

With the names you mentioned above disposal is the knock on most of them.

I watched highlights of Clarke and wasn't that enthused by what l saw. Reminds me of Mathieson last year. Vision and disposal not great. Too scrappy.

Powell pepper moves as well as anyone in the draft but his kicking when under a bit of pressure can be horrible. Spp could play multiple positions. Worries me he could be another tom bell with his disposal.

Scharenberg a an interesting one with his kicking. Looks better than than the others but can be a little ordinary at times. Technically looks ok and on many occasions looks very neat. But when kicking under pressure gets rushed and makes poor contact with ball(short passes that were floaters). Happened over and over again in highlights. I like his vision and decision making. Always sees an option.

I probably like Drew and Scharenberg the most of these lot.

I just wonder if we are seeing the most obvious options. Players that are obvious inside mids that played prominent positions in champs. Club may have a more nuanced view of picking contested players for Afl footy.


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[Arr0w]

What Do We Really Need:

So much talk of which player we should take, with what pick. Whether it be a Brodie,Taranto, Gallucci, Kerr, Fisher, Lebois etc, it really doesn't matter the name. It's more about the type of player, not where he plays, that will continue to be identified.

You only have to look at the GF this year, both sides have a different mix of the type, of players we yearn for and need, whether it is JPK, Parker to a Liberatore or Bontempelli. What is also clear, when you look at both these teams is their competitive and combative nature. For too long we have missed that hard edge to our list.

Last year I believe our draft was made of these types. I am sure SOS & CO will continue to identify these types of characters, rank them as to their skill set and continue our rebuild

 

[BRADLESTICKS]

I have a feeling sps is our man he fits the hybrid mid description, he looks the most skilled player in the draft, kicks both sides and if not for injuries earlier in the year would likely be out of our reach, I also don't think the go home factor shouldn't be an issue as Halls Creek is as close to Adelaide as it is to Perth.

 

[zeeCFC]

Mitch Grigg delisted, come on down!

 

[Jimmae]

He did and which is why someone like Taranto fits, for us.
SPS is also an inside/outside mid....leaning on outside....with serious hurt factor.

We may just opt for the pure inside mid @ #25.........early days though.

Where's the hybrid role for Taranto? He's just an inside mid that kicks goals. SPS is just a balanced mid, though he doesn't look great on the wing (could just be his hammy though).

They've gotta be talking more about guys who are tall utilities that can play midfield, or can genuinely play up forward (Ainsworth).

 

[zeeCFC]

He did and which is why someone like Taranto fits, for us.
SPS is also an inside/outside mid....leaning on outside....with serious hurt factor.

We may just opt for the pure inside mid @ #25.........early days though.

Where's the hybrid role for Taranto? He's just an inside mid that kicks goals. SPS is just a balanced mid, though he doesn't look great on the wing (could just be his hammy though).

They've gotta be talking more about guys who are tall utilities that can play midfield, or can genuinely play up forward (Ainsworth).

Was he specifically talking about the draft? Could have also been talking about Pickett, Palmer, Smedts...

 

[MileHigh]

I've been hot on Brodie thinking we will be lucky if he slides to us. Now loving on Taranto. Trust in SOS and stoked we held onto pick 5. Will be talent and happy with whoever we decide upon.

 

[HARKER]

Where's the hybrid role for Taranto? He's just an inside mid that kicks goals. SPS is just a balanced mid, though he doesn't look great on the wing (could just be his hammy though).

They've gotta be talking more about guys who are tall utilities that can play midfield, or can genuinely play up forward (Ainsworth).

That's what Trigg was alluding to. Taranto does find himself in the back-line, sweeping also.
He's a player that can do damage all around the ground and I'm not comparing him to the best in the comp, but just against his draft class.

 

[MileHigh]

Taranto seemingly has more scope for improvement than Brodie. Only been playing a few years and with a basketball background he has that real balance and good on either side of the body. Can get ball, can run with, can mark above head and can hit the scoreboard. He starts to feel quite Pendlebury-esque.

Still would be happy with Brodie.

 

[Arr0w]

So when the club is talking "Hybrid" midfielder, is it:

An inside/outside midfielder - SPS, Taranto, Setterfield

Or

Midfielder/forward - Ainsworth/Taranto

 

[AB_Blue]

If Taranto is there at #5 we have to pull the trigger.

His inside/outside game style could provide us with something we are missing:

X - Factor

 

[HARKER]

If Taranto is there at #5 we have to pull the trigger.

His inside/outside game style could provide us with something we are missing:

X - Factor

Good hands...Good mark...Plays all over the ground and can kick goals.

He will be difficult to bypass unless he interviewed poorly.....Italian name also.

 

[La Dispute]

I think we're getting into semantics too much and reading into the 'hybrid' mid comment too much. The beauty of this draft is a number of players can play multiple positions; it's more a case of finding the right player for our needs.

I'm very open to drafting SPS should he be available.

 

[Zlatan]

I'm not reading this thread anymore. Im now going to be disappointed regardless of who we choose at 5.

 

[HARKER]

We could become a pretty exciting team to watch again should we take SPS and then the likes of Curnow, Cuningham, Pickett & Sumner have a full pre-season. Not so stodgy any more.