Analysis 2016 Draft...

[GROTTO]

There are some carlton fans who are still bit salty after trade period, imagine the melts if Carlton took Hayward at pick 5 and then he requested a trade to the crows after his initial contract.

The fallout of the entire Gibbs fiasco is that it will create doubt when some non-Victorian Carlton players are in the process of signing long term contracts with them.

 

[CrowinNT]

There are some carlton fans who are still bit salty after trade period, imagine the melts if Carlton took Hayward at pick 5 and then he requested a trade to the crows after his initial contract.

That's why I wrote the go home risk factor post in the thread.

 

[Doobie Doedee]

Hayward was on Nine news and he's a huge Crows fan as is his family.

He also said he models his game on Gunston and Siciliy.

We apparently are keen, he'd want to become a bloody midfielder.

His sister is also Kerridge's gf

Not the worst bloke to have in your ear in terms of learning about training standards

 

[GrommoT]

There are some carlton fans who are still bit salty after trade period, imagine the melts if Carlton took Hayward at pick 5 and then he requested a trade to the crows after his initial contract.

Our Category C Rookies

 

[Bicks]

Cal Twomey's Episode 29 Road To The Draft....

https://audioboom.com/posts/5267383-road-to-the-2016-draft-ep-29-stephen-silvagni?t=0

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He looks the lumbering type to me.


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He appears that way ......but a players gait can be misleading though

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Apparently Marshall and Venables haven't been invited to Sydney

Didn't i hear they take 15 players up ? ......obviously approx 5 would be Academy players, so you'd have to think one of Marshall, Venables will be available ......but also still have fingers crossed Scrimshaw (wasted effort crossing fingers IMO)

Is there a list of who has been invited? .......Powell-Pepper?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[LC40]

The only way I think Beech will make it with us is if we have injuries in the forward line. Don't get me wrong I rate him but he's got the toughest gig at the moment trying to break into our forward half.

I think Beech has a definite chance to be upgraded if there are any thoughts to add speed into the midfield with Cameron.
Someone did comment that the coaches don't plan on putting Smith into the midfield. To get some speed in there Cameron may be a short burst option.
In that case Betts stays the small forward and Beech is by far the most experienced player half forward in the squad. Menzel has AFL experience but Beech has been an effective and consistent performer over many years in the SANFL. Great marking threat as well and can be used as a swing man.

Lyons was a goal kicking mid, someone will need to take up the slack and be another threat at times.
See what happens pre season might give a clue to the coaches thinking.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

QUOTE; Don Patch Sword :
Galluci has been invited to the draft as well, im guessing North, Eagles and Crows are most interested

Others invited to the draft apparently ......Jy Simpkin, Logue, and English

 

[Bicks]

http://www.standard.net.au/story/4281441/afl-draft-south-paves-mccluggages-way-photos-video/?cs=73

Potential AFL number one pick Hugh McCluggage recalls Hampden league senior

9 Nov 2016, 12:30 p.m.

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HUGH McCluggage endured a restless night after learning of his senior football debut.

A late call-up did little to settle his nerves.

South Warrnambool coach Matthew Monk rung the McCluggages to ask if he could play the smooth-moving teenager against North Warrnambool Eagles the following day.

Dad Sam, himself a former Rooster, was keen to watch his son take the next step at Hampden league level.

Mum Christine, on the other hand, was worried about her “skinny little 16-year-old” playing against men.

“It was pretty nerve-racking. I was emergency I think and then I got a call on the Friday night at about 8 o’clock,” McCluggage said of the 2014 fixture at Friendly Societies’ Park.

“Then Mum and Dad had to call them back and talk. I didn’t really know until about 11.30pm (that I would be playing) and I didn’t really get much sleep.

“It is still the most nervous I have been for a game, for sure, just playing against people you grew up watching and just against bigger bodies for the first time.”

McCluggage started on Eagle utility Matt Brophy – one of his cricket teammates at Warrnambool and District club Allansford – on a wing and “just floated around a bit by myself and tried not to get hit”.

“I got to play against Warrnambool the next week which was a bit of a shock. They were impressive,” he recalled on Monday, just over a fortnight out from the 2016 AFL draft where he is expected to go in the top three.

“I played the last nine or 10 games. It was probably pretty big for my footy as well.”

Those matches for South Warrnambool – when he was still eligible for under 16s – provided the ideal launching pad for McCluggage.

He cobbled together 10 matches for TAC Cup club North Ballarat Rebels as a bottom-age prospect the following year, showing enough glimpses of his goalkicking nous and poise in traffic to pique the interest of the AFL Academy.

From there he skyrocketed into draft estimations. A standout 2016 season for the Rebels and Vic Country at the under 18 national championships entrenched him as a potential number one pick.

“I wanted to have a good crack at the year and I’d been given a good opportunity through the academy and it’s taken off really and caught me by surprise a little bit,” McCluggage said.

“It’s been a massive year and I’ve enjoyed every minute of it.”

Football has played a major role in McCluggage’s upbringing.

The former Warrnambool College student is always outside at his family’s Allansford dairy farm with brother Myles, 13, and friends working on his skills when he is home from school commitments at Ballarat Clarendon College.

“(We play a bit) of footy golf, over at the dairy, just kicking the footy with a few mates into bins and between trees,” he said.

“I have a couple of trees as goal posts, (and am) just hitting things and constantly kicking the footy, I guess.”

McCluggage started at Warrnambool and District league club Allansford and “made a few grand finals but we kept losing to South Rovers”.

He switched to South Warrnambool and won a premiership at under 16 level against an equally-powerful junior juggernaut in Cobden.

Another sport captured McCluggage’s attention from an early age too.

A talented right-hand batsman, he rose through cricket representative ranks, playing for Western Waves at state championship level three times.

But it’s an innings for Allansford, which his mum has labelled “the famous 99”, which stands out from his time on the pitch.

McCluggage was 15, playing division one alongside his uncle Gault, when he fell short of a maiden century on a February day two years ago.

“I went out. I had a ball that was a bit too full and nicked it,” he said.

“It was a bit disappointing. I didn’t know what I was on and got back to the sheds and they were like ‘couldn’t you get one more?’

“That’s cricket – when you have a good patch, everything goes right and you can have a bad patch and you can’t do a thing. It’s pretty frustrating that way.

“At that time I was having a pretty good run, so I had to make the most of it.”

That run continued in the Gators’ second innings against East Warrnambool-YCW, with the emerging teenager contributing another 48 runs.

McCluggage misses cricket – a sport which enabled him to play with his father – but is hopeful of donning the whites again, once his football career is over.

“Cricket was probably number one in the summer and footy in the winter, so it kind of just kept switching,” he said.

“I didn’t really have to make a decision to choose one or the other until I was about 17 and footy probably just took off a bit faster and there were big pre-seasons through footy and the body couldn’t really handle it (playing both) well.”

McCluggage, who also has a younger sister, Bella, 16, is making the most of his time at home before the draft.

His brother Myles, who was 11 when McCluggage moved away, is making the most of it too.

“When he gets home, his brother is very excited so they spend the whole time doing some sort of sport,” Christine said.

“He struggled when Hughy went away. They both missed each other. There is always an endless game of something going on.”

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Listen from 12 minutes 30 seconds

https://audioboom.com/posts/5267178-trading-places-with-brett-anderson?t=0

 

[GreyCrow]

McLuggage needs the money to buy socks

 

[Elite Crow]

Others invited to the draft apparently ......Jy Simpkin, Logue, and English

Is that the same English you said wouldn't go first round......

 

[baby back Bibs]

SEN are saying Carlton could take Will Hayward at pick 5, yet he's said to be a player that we aren't even keen on if he is still available at pick 13.

Imagine if Carlton take a kid with pick 5 that they could have taken with pick 13.

Even better would be the pear trading down thinking he would still be there at 14...

 

[1990crow]

He'll look good next to Menzel and Betts.

And Gibbs next year. And Sauce.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Apparently Twomey has said that we're well into Berry and Hayward.

Starting to think Berry will be the go

 

[hey shorty]

Apparently Twomey has said that we're well into Berry and Hayward.

Starting to think Berry will be the go

Would be ideal IMO.

 

[JPetro83]

McLuggage needs the money to buy socks

Just a typical guy under 25.. they don't know how to dress but they think they are fashionable.

 

[JPetro83]

Apparently Twomey has said that we're well into Berry and Hayward.

Starting to think Berry will be the go

I just hope he is still there at 13. At least our pick is before Port.

 

[DJ75]

Really interesting that I heard we won't go Hayward at 13, and yet lots of reports that we are very keen. If we do go for Hayward at 13 it will tell me a lot about our current list management team.
Personally I'm REALLY hoping we grab him at 13. I'm also hoping that he told Carlton how much of a Crows fan he is and it scares them off!

 

[DJ75]

Apparently Twomey has said that we're well into Berry and Hayward.

Starting to think Berry will be the go

Watched some of his highlights and I'm not convinced. Not sure what it was, but something that just looked a bit vanilla. Probably need to have seen him more. In the end I'll back Ogilvie all day every day.

 

[cammo6556]

Can someone please inform me why I should get excited about Hayward at 13? I know he's an SA boy and until recently wasn't that highly rated... apart from that i know very little about him

 

[Bicks]

Watched some of his highlights and I'm not convinced. Not sure what it was, but something that just looked a bit vanilla. Probably need to have seen him more. In the end I'll back Ogilvie all day every day.

I've seen a lot of him, trust me he is anything but vanilla, footballers don't come any more hard nosed than Jarrod Berry, exactly what we need a big bodied aggressive mid/utility.

 

[Archie87]

If the club is confident they can develop Hayward into a midfielder given his athletic profile, go for it I say!

I like the sound of Gallucci (albeit by phantom drafts and Youtube). I'm happy to be corrected here, but is the main knock that he's a bit outside at the moment? If so, how outside is he? Is he just "blatantly soft, scared to get in there" outside or is it just the role he's been playing given his pace and athleticism and it's relatively easy to fix? He seemed to be getting in there a bit in his highlights.