Mega Thread 2016 Media Thread

[freo_leo29]

Pretty sure his source was bigfooty like all his other bs anyway

Someone posted the Sam Mitchell deal last week and Crumpet must have stumbled across it

 

[masai]

Wow. Hagdorn may have got the Sam Mitchell scoop. Sounds bizarre, but is real!

There's a saying, something about a clock being correct twice a day.

Crumpie's batting average is now .001 runs ( over 999 innings ).

 

[Halfbaked]

He is upset at our crumpet face thread...

Hope so.

 

[Tommo]

I don't understand the attitude of crumpet and his worst mates, how is it good business sense to alienate such a large proportion of the footy fans in WA?

 

[estibador]

I don't understand the attitude of crumpet and his worst mates, how is it good business sense to alienate such a large proportion of the footy fans in WA?

That's why we shouldn't link to articles that disrespect the club like he does. They don't care if you're happy or angry while you're reading, as long as you click on the link.

Talk about the articles if we want, but we should avoid posting links on this board that might give them more traffic imo.

 

[E Shed]

I don't understand the attitude of crumpet and his worst mates, how is it good business sense to alienate such a large proportion of the footy fans in WA?

They aren't professionals, not in the true sense like Cometti was. Just a bunch of bitter old men taking aim at anything they don't like.

 

[Tommo]

They aren't professionals, not in the true sense like Cometti was. Just a bunch of bitter old men taking aim at anything they don't like.

But they have bosses, who are slaves to advertising revenue. Surly the marketing department would be up in arms

 

[E Shed]

But they have bosses, who are slaves to advertising revenue. Surly the marketing department would be up in arms

controversy has long been the weapon of talkback radio. saying something thats complete bullshit but guaranteed to provoke a reaction and get people to call in (or even just ask about it as we are ) is just as good and maybe better than bothering to say something well researched and factual.

 

[Tommo]

controversy has long been the weapon of talkback radio. saying something thats complete bullshit but guaranteed to provoke a reaction and get people to call in (or even just ask about it as we are ) is just as good and maybe better than bothering to say something well researched and factual.

True, it still surprises me that there is no balance. I mean Nic Nat does something and it turns into a fluff piece, Fyfe does something, and he is painted as some overly ambitious attention seeker causing rifts in his team.
The actions of the WA media would seem to indicate that, simply put, positive eagle stories and negative Freo stories move the most papers and cause the highest click bait.
I guess I'm curious as to how this situation eventuates, and why there seems to be no trending change.

 

[Grandstan]

True, it still surprises me that there is no balance. I mean Nic Nat does something and it turns into a fluff piece, Fyfe does something, and he is painted as some overly ambitious attention seeker causing rifts in his team.
The actions of the WA media would seem to indicate that, simply put, positive eagle stories and negative Freo stories move the most papers and cause the highest click bait.
I guess I'm curious as to how this situation eventuates, and why there seems to be no trending change.

I'm confused - wasn't Hagdorn the first person in the media to mention the Mitchell deal? What are the Hagdorn reports that we're pissed about?

 

[E Shed]

I'm confused - wasn't Hagdorn the first person in the media to mention the Mitchell deal? What are the Hagdorn reports that we're pissed about?

He was on the other night trying to stir up the Fyfe controversy again and saying Bennell and McCarthy aren't likely to give us much next year after a year out and how the Eagles are much better placed etc etc. He's plainly and obviously biased. And I don't have a thin skin in regards the media.

 

[Tommo]

I'm confused - wasn't Hagdorn the first person in the media to mention the Mitchell deal? What are the Hagdorn reports that we're pissed about?

It doesn't have anything to do with mentioning things first really, it's that he generally finds a way of painting all actions by Freo in a negative light and most actions by WC in a positive light. He isn't the only WA journalists that does this and they certainly aren't all like him. I'm more interested in trying to find a reason as to why media companies within WA would seemingly choose to continually promote one team over another, when all it does is drive the fans of said team away from their newspapers and or websites. Therefore, I would have thought, effecting revenue. Freo's supporter base continues to grow every year (my wife an I will be adding one to the horde sometime today fingers crossed), so why is Fyfe, for example not treated the same as Nic Nat? He is arguably the best player in the country and he is a local lad.

 

[Grandstan]

It doesn't have anything to do with mentioning things first really, it's that he generally finds a way of painting all actions by Freo in a negative light and most actions by WC in a positive light. He isn't the only WA journalists that does this and they certainly aren't all like him. I'm more interested in trying to find a reason as to why media companies within WA would seemingly choose to continually promote one team over another, when all it does is drive the fans of said team away from their newspapers and or websites. Therefore, I would have thought, effecting revenue. Freo's supporter base continues to grow every year (my wife an I will be adding one to the horde sometime today fingers crossed), so why is Fyfe, for example not treated the same as Nic Nat? He is arguably the best player in the country and he is a local lad.

Guess I'm lucky over here that I rarely hear that kind of obvious negativity. Hagdorn is an open Eagles supporter, isn't he? In Melbourne pretty much every pundit/journo has a favourite club, but they rarely have interest in spending time bagging out any particular club.
FWIW, I don't pick up any particular grudge in his writing, though he does have that common sports reporter problem - an addiction to unnamed sources.

In terms of why Freo, it's certainly true that they don't have the same links through the media that WC do. And it is stupid to disrespect the fans. It's no doubt the same for Port and the Suns (if they can get any coverage at all.)

Lyon has a reputation over here of having created lots of enemies in the media during his time at St Kilda, (and some close allies.) They still talk about his "St Kilda bubble". Probably not too dissimilar to Malthouse. It does seem you have to give a little if you want to get back from the media - Scott, Roos and Buckley build a lot of goodwill with the kind of honesty they show on 360. Freo seem to keep their cards close to the chest most of the time.

 

[Big Animal]

Last year we had regular articles by the pro-Eagles Hagdorn and the pro-Freo Simon White which kind of evened things out (I mainly read both PNow and WAToday but can't remember who was writing for which?). This year Simon appears to have moved on to other things and the super-pro-Eagles Brendan Foster has replaced him in terms of frequency of AFL-related (i.e. Freo/WC) articles. So, this year I noticed a constant anti-Freo battering from those guys and not much else except the odd article from someone random which was usually fairly un-biased. That's why I think the media hate on here by the Perthites has ramped up this year more than others.

As a result, I pretty much stopped reading their Freo or WC articles and turned off Hagdorn on 6PR by about midseason this year. I get all the AFL info I need on here. I expect others are doing the same now too.

 

[Grandstan]

One seriously optimistic Freo fan. http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports...n/news-story/1b7ed54294eda73ddf05b9512cc2e444

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[mike91]

One seriously optimistic Freo fan. http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports...n/news-story/1b7ed54294eda73ddf05b9512cc2e444

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F**k me!

 

[Harry Reems]

One seriously optimistic Freo fan. http://www.news.com.au/sport/sports...n/news-story/1b7ed54294eda73ddf05b9512cc2e444

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I wonder if it was the same punter who put $35,000 on the Eagles to beat the Bulldogs at $1.25 in the Elimination Final this year?

 

[Kram]

It doesn't have anything to do with mentioning things first really, it's that he generally finds a way of painting all actions by Freo in a negative light and most actions by WC in a positive light. He isn't the only WA journalists that does this and they certainly aren't all like him. I'm more interested in trying to find a reason as to why media companies within WA would seemingly choose to continually promote one team over another, when all it does is drive the fans of said team away from their newspapers and or websites. Therefore, I would have thought, effecting revenue. Freo's supporter base continues to grow every year (my wife an I will be adding one to the horde sometime today fingers crossed), so why is Fyfe, for example not treated the same as Nic Nat? He is arguably the best player in the country and he is a local lad.

I've just always assumed that as West Coast is far more popular in WA therefore have a significantly higher % of journos that support them. Then they are just being unprofessional in not being balanced.

 

[beetz]

I wonder if it was the same punter who put $35,000 on the Eagles to beat the Bulldogs at $1.25 in the Elimination Final this year?

Clearly not because the Eagles bet is obviously a dumb one.

 

[KC17]

I've just always assumed that as West Coast is far more popular in WA therefore have a significantly higher % of journos that support them. Then they are just being unprofessional in not being balanced.

A journo mate of mine reckons there's only a couple that actually support West Coast. They just have to write about them non-stop to sell papers. Nic Nat = spikes in sales.

 

[Nickos66]

Clearly not because the Eagles bet is obviously a dumb one.

In hindsight, sure. But the Eagles were at home against them and Freo had beaten them here only weeks earlier. It wasn't a dumb idea at all at the time.

 

[scon]

The bookies like what Lloyd's done so far:in from $51 to $26.
We'll be even money after we get the rest of our targets.

A journo mate of mine reckons there's only a couple that actually support West Coast. They just have to write about them non-stop to sell papers. Nic Nat = spikes in sales.

Does that correlate to 'dumb arse brigade' buy The West'??

 

[beetz]

In hindsight, sure. But the Eagles were at home against them and Freo had beaten them here only weeks earlier. It wasn't a dumb idea at all at the time.

I think you missed my poor attempt at humour. I was facetiously referring to the guy punting on Freo as a very clever chap.

 

[wayToGo_]

A journo mate of mine reckons there's only a couple that actually support West Coast. They just have to write about them non-stop to sell papers. Nic Nat = spikes in sales.

Yeah we need our own Nic Nat... Perhaps one of these two?



OR

 

[KC17]

Does that correlate to 'dumb arse brigade' buy The West'??

Direct correlation, yes.