2016 Non Crows AFL Discussion thread Part 2

[beartoo]

The majority of muso's work their arses off for little reward. People ripping their music off is completely immoral ("not particularly moral" is like being a "little bit pregnant"). Sure the top whatever % are making squillions and it won't hurt them, but the majority are not. No different to ripping movies. While you might think "oh the stars don't need it" but what about all the extras that are in or work on that movie? You are ripping them off too.

Extras don't get rollovers. Flat fee.
Agree with your other points.

 

[dogs105]

Geez thats familiar.
We should catch up,talk shop and party some time.

Maybe go for a drink together?

 

[Bicks]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...k=38431cf7f6ca817ee60c13108334406a-1481335120
AFL makes pledge to fund drug rehabilitation for Ben Cousins
Sarah Blake and Jon Ralph, News Corp Australia Network
December 9, 2016 10:00pm
Subscriber only
EXCLUSIVE

THE AFL has made an unprecedented pledge to fund a drug rehabilitation program for fallen Brownlow Medallist Ben Cousins.

A rollcall of influential and business figures have lined up to offer help to Cousins, who revealed he is “living out of a backpack” this week in an interview with News Corp.

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan has told Cousins’ father the AFL would bankroll any anti-drug program or rehab facility which helped drag the 38-year-old out of his downward spiral.

McLachlan refused to comment on the conversation last night but it is understood the AFL believes it has an obligation to help one of its greatest stars.

That offer was made several months ago by McLachlan directly to Bryan Cousins and remains open-ended.

But the challenge remains in convincing him to attend a rehab facility given he has quickly relapsed after trips to rehabilitation centres in the past.

“The AFL has made clear they are there to help Ben, and if he can get to rehab they have said they have put aside money to support him,” a source close to the family said.

Kim Ledger, the father of the late actor Heath, said he has also reached out to the Cousins family in the battle to save Ben.
A decade after helping lead the West Coast Eagles to a premiership, Cousins has spiralled into drug addiction and lost most of his fortune, including five properties.

Concerns have been building for Cousins, who spent two nights in custody this week for breaching a domestic violence order held by his ex partner.

He is due to face court again next week on separate charges, and told Armadale Magistrates Court on Wednesday that he believed he could spend Christmas in jail.

Cousins’ father, a former Geelong rover, has dedicated much of the past decade to helping his oldest son, who has admitted to regularly using drugs including ice, cocaine and pills.

Cousins’ battle with drugs has been widely publicised and he spoke at length about his drug use in his 2010 autobiography and a documentary in the same year.

“We have been trying to support the family all the way through, because they are friends of ours,” Kim Ledger told News Corp.

“At one point Heath tried to help Ben by getting him over to a clinic over that way, he was trying to encourage him to go a particular clinic, but that didn’t eventuate.”

Kim Ledger says he’s been trying to support Ben Cousins’ family throughout his drug addiction. Picture: News Limited

Ledger, who works with Perth drug treatment centre Cyrenian House, said the Cousins family were struggling with their son’s addiction.

“It’s often the families surrounding these issues that need more support than the victims,” he said.

“Any addiction is a disease and you have to feel compassion for the individuals that are caught with it, but they need to make a decision to go down a pathway to repatriate themselves, because at the end of the day no matter what you do, the final decision rests with the individual. It’s such a hard, hard situation and I empathise with all families that are caught with it.”

The AFL deregistered Cousins for bringing the game into disrepute in 2007 before he was allowed to return to the game in a two-year stint at Richmond.

The league was criticised this year by West Coast powerbrokers for failing to help the Eagles deal with the drug problems of players during the mid-2000s.

Ben Cousins leaves Armadale Magistrates Court on bail after pleading guilty to breaching a violence restraining order. Picture: Danella Bevis The West Australian
Yet all the offers of help and funding from the AFL and family can only help if Cousins decides to accept them.

The league’s player union has a hardship fund it uses to help the surgeries of past players in need.

The AFL’s own offer of help remains unusual but few players have soared to such highs before plunging to the depths of Cousins.

 

[Geoffa32]

Do I hear violins playing?

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[kirky]

My take on sports I like:-

No 1 - AFL - the best game - any type of individual can play - can't say that about most sports
No 2 - NFL - a very strategic game and again players of all builds can play
No 3 - Olympics
No 4 - Ice Hockey

Soccer is last - very simple game, lack of scoring and basically the rest of the world plays it, why? Beacause it is a simple game to understand! It will never take over Australia or USA, why? Because they have their own native games and by playing in summer they know they can't compete with either AFL or NRL for sponsorship $ in winter.

 

[MRB37]

Basically the PR has gotten so bad from Cousins that the AFL have decided to step in and try and turn it around.

 

[Apsaalooke]

My take on sports I like:-

No 1 - AFL - the best game - any type of individual can play - can't say that about most sports
No 2 - NFL - a very strategic game and again players of all builds can play
No 3 - Olympics
No 4 - Ice Hockey

Soccer is last - very simple game, lack of scoring and basically the rest of the world plays it, why? Beacause it is a simple game to understand! It will never take over Australia or USA, why? Because they have their own native games and by playing in summer they know they can't compete with either AFL or NRL for sponsorship $ in winter.

At least with soccer I get interested if I have an emotional investment in 1 side eg Adelaide Reds or Australia.
Rugby League is much worse. Repeat the same thing 5 times then do it again. How is it so popular?

 

[cm_perfect]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...k=38431cf7f6ca817ee60c13108334406a-1481335120
AFL makes pledge to fund drug rehabilitation for Ben Cousins
Sarah Blake and Jon Ralph, News Corp Australia Network
December 9, 2016 10:00pm
Subscriber only
EXCLUSIVE

THE AFL has made an unprecedented pledge to fund a drug rehabilitation program for fallen Brownlow Medallist Ben Cousins.

A rollcall of influential and business figures have lined up to offer help to Cousins, who revealed he is “living out of a backpack” this week in an interview with News Corp.

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan has told Cousins’ father the AFL would bankroll any anti-drug program or rehab facility which helped drag the 38-year-old out of his downward spiral.

McLachlan refused to comment on the conversation last night but it is understood the AFL believes it has an obligation to help one of its greatest stars.

That offer was made several months ago by McLachlan directly to Bryan Cousins and remains open-ended.

But the challenge remains in convincing him to attend a rehab facility given he has quickly relapsed after trips to rehabilitation centres in the past.

“The AFL has made clear they are there to help Ben, and if he can get to rehab they have said they have put aside money to support him,” a source close to the family said.

Kim Ledger, the father of the late actor Heath, said he has also reached out to the Cousins family in the battle to save Ben.
A decade after helping lead the West Coast Eagles to a premiership, Cousins has spiralled into drug addiction and lost most of his fortune, including five properties.

Concerns have been building for Cousins, who spent two nights in custody this week for breaching a domestic violence order held by his ex partner.

He is due to face court again next week on separate charges, and told Armadale Magistrates Court on Wednesday that he believed he could spend Christmas in jail.

Cousins’ father, a former Geelong rover, has dedicated much of the past decade to helping his oldest son, who has admitted to regularly using drugs including ice, cocaine and pills.

Cousins’ battle with drugs has been widely publicised and he spoke at length about his drug use in his 2010 autobiography and a documentary in the same year.

“We have been trying to support the family all the way through, because they are friends of ours,” Kim Ledger told News Corp.

“At one point Heath tried to help Ben by getting him over to a clinic over that way, he was trying to encourage him to go a particular clinic, but that didn’t eventuate.”

Kim Ledger says he’s been trying to support Ben Cousins’ family throughout his drug addiction. Picture: News Limited

Ledger, who works with Perth drug treatment centre Cyrenian House, said the Cousins family were struggling with their son’s addiction.

“It’s often the families surrounding these issues that need more support than the victims,” he said.

“Any addiction is a disease and you have to feel compassion for the individuals that are caught with it, but they need to make a decision to go down a pathway to repatriate themselves, because at the end of the day no matter what you do, the final decision rests with the individual. It’s such a hard, hard situation and I empathise with all families that are caught with it.”

The AFL deregistered Cousins for bringing the game into disrepute in 2007 before he was allowed to return to the game in a two-year stint at Richmond.

The league was criticised this year by West Coast powerbrokers for failing to help the Eagles deal with the drug problems of players during the mid-2000s.

Ben Cousins leaves Armadale Magistrates Court on bail after pleading guilty to breaching a violence restraining order. Picture: Danella Bevis The West Australian
Yet all the offers of help and funding from the AFL and family can only help if Cousins decides to accept them.

The league’s player union has a hardship fund it uses to help the surgeries of past players in need.

The AFL’s own offer of help remains unusual but few players have soared to such highs before plunging to the depths of Cousins.

At least he has options, this will back him into a corner. I only see 2 options left for the lad now.

I hope he can get his shit together and at a minimum become a functional addict.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

That's because once you go Foxtel, it is very very hard to go back. Despite the rip off costs of the thing. It's like trying to give up your mobile phone.

Siren to Siren AFL no ads or Married at First Sight hmm? Tough one.

Wtf are you selling? I was recently given 3 months of free Foxtel and couldn't wait to get rid of it. The only worthwhile thing it has is sport. The rest of the service is an stinking mess.

 

[Mego Red]

Well, I certainly don't think the AFL should just stand back and do nothing. If they can help prevent this ending in the way it seems most likely to, then they should.


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[Mr_Moogle]

Basically the PR has gotten so bad from Cousins that the AFL have decided to step in and try and turn it around.

It never ceases to amaze me just how fragile the AFL is when it comes to the prospect of bad PR.

 

[Pdub]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...g/news-story/6f2afb3c6607aad4a11703e7515389ff

ST KILDA has confirmed midfielder Luke Dunstan was detained by police in the early hours of Saturday morning.

Dunstan had fallen asleep in a public place.

As well as being detained, the 21-year-old received an infringement notice for being intoxicated in a public place.

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Dunstan notified St Kilda officials immediately and co-operated fully with police.

St Kilda general manager of football performance Jamie Cox said Dunstan was very apologetic and embarrassed about the incident.

“Luke notified the club immediately of the situation and is extremely remorseful,” Cox said.

“Luke’s a trusted young man of strong character and we’re disappointed he has not met club expectations on this occasion.

“This serves as a prescient reminder to our playing group of the importance of responsible consumption of alcohol,” Cox said.


St Kilda club leaders will meet early next week to determine an appropriate course of action.

Waiting for port supporters to complain that this issue gets treated differently to Impey.

 

[Damp Squarie]

AFCladiess New Logo

 

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[Bicks]

 

[treeman]

Hmm this is a disappointment.

 

[GreyCrow]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...g/news-story/6f2afb3c6607aad4a11703e7515389ff

Waiting for port supporters to complain that this issue gets treated differently to Impey.

Well he didn't fall asleep in his car!!

The places I have fallen asleep while drinking would fill a city map.

 

[Elite Crow]

Well that's going to be shit

 

[brucetiki]

Well that's going to be shit

No one watched it as it is - even less will with Kane as host

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Well that's going to be shit

I can handle Kane as a panelist or special comments person, but host? No.

 

[Jars458]

Incredibly low standards we have for our media stars.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Well he didn't fall asleep in his car!!

The places I have fallen asleep while drinking would fill a city map.

Careful. I've probably urinated in those same places while out drinking.

 

[Grooster24]

Its for reasons like this why I believe Twitter and BF should have a "dislike" tag.

 

[GreyCrow]

Careful. I've probably urinated in those same places while out drinking.

That's ok, so did I, while sleeping there.

 

[Runnin Blue]

That's ok, so did I, while sleeping there.

Wait...Sean...is that you?