Draft Review 2016 - Revisiting the 2016 AFL Draft

[eth-dog]

Greatest player in history chokes 30 out dead in front...

 

[Milanista28]

Greatest player in history chokes 30 out dead in front...

Yeah no one will talk about it but he's a big reason they lose (draw) that game.

 

[eth-dog]

Yeah no one will talk about it but he's a big reason they lose that game.

That check side set shot was so stupid too

 

[rye]

pretty happy brisbane ended up with mccluggage over taranto and mcgrath. dont think taranto will ever get out of the habit of his first instinct being a hack kick floater in congestion

 

[Wild Bill]

4 premiership players for this cats from the 2016 draft in Parfitt, Stewart, Henry, and Z. Guthrie. Another cat B pick up in Mark O'Connor is a premiership player. Zach Tuohy also traded in for 6 total premiership players added in the period.

Of 10 draftees taken, 7 are senior listed footballers somewhere, including all 4 rookies. Good strike rate given they're now 7 years in.

But where do they rate in a redo? Only 1 would be in the top 10. Lots of very ordinary footballers have a premiership medal.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

But where do they rate in a redo? Only 1 would be in the top 10. Lots of very ordinary footballers have a premiership medal.

You gotta pick up your everyday premiership players somewhere

 

[Wild Bill]

You gotta pick up your everyday premiership players somewhere

Correct - but this is a thread for listing the players if drafted today. You have just named a bunch of players that won a flag.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Correct - but this is a thread for listing the players if drafted today. You have just named a bunch of players that won a flag.

Forgive me my sins

 

[Wild Bill]

Forgive me my sins

All good. Have you got a top 10 or 20?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

All good. Have you got a top 10 or 20?

I have a number 1 if that counts but I'm sure I'll get shot down

 

[STPer18]

I have a number 1 if that counts but I'm sure I'll get shot down

You're thinking Tom Stewart, and you're 100% correct.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You're thinking Tom Stewart, and you're 100% correct.

Shhh you'll wake them up

 

[btdg]

How well did Carlton do at this draft - absolute all-timer!

Traded in:

• Caleb Marchbank (perpetually injured, including 4 games in the last 4 years, and frankly not very good when fit)
• Billie Smedts (16 games, delisted after 1 season)
• Jarrod Pickett (17 games, delisted after 2 seasons)
• Rhys Palmer (1 season, delisted)
• pick 48

Traded out:
- Zac Touhy (140 games and a Premiership for Geelong, and counting)
Note: we initially traded Touhy and 63 for pick 17 and Smedts. Then traded 17 for Marchbank, Pickett and a future second. Then traded the future second for 48, with some shifting of picks in the 60s around it all

Draft:

• Pick 6 Sam Petrevski Seton
• Pick 27 Zac Fisher
  16

  Zac Fisher

  Age

  27

  Ht

  175cm

  Wt

  76kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  16.2

  4star

  K

  8.3

  3star

  HB

  7.9

  5star

  M

  1.8

  2star

  T

  3.0

  5star

  MG

  384.0

  5star

  D

  17.0

  4star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  7.0

  4star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  384.0

  5star

  D

  12.2

  3star

  K

  6.8

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  1.2

  2star

  T

  3.0

  5star

• Pick 47 Harrison Macreadie
  26

  Harrison Macreadie

  Age

  27

  Ht

  198cm

  Wt

  92kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  6.9

  2star

  K

  4.1

  2star

  HB

  2.8

  2star

  M

  1.9

  2star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  76.3

  1star

  No current season stats available

  D

  7.6

  2star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  3.4

  3star

  M

  2.6

  3star

  T

  3.0

  5star

  MG

  86.6

  2star

• Pick 59 Cameron Polson
  29

  Cameron Polson

  Age

  27

  Ht

  177cm

  Wt

  81kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.0

  2star

  HB

  3.8

  3star

  M

  0.4

  1star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  G

  0.3

  3star

  No current season stats available

  D

  6.8

  2star

  K

  2.8

  1star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  0.2

  1star

  T

  3.0

  5star

  G

  0.0

  1star

• Pick 61 Tom Williamson
  31

  Tom Williamson

  Age

  27

  Ht

  190cm

  Wt

  86kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.1

  3star

  K

  7.5

  3star

  HB

  4.5

  3star

  M

  3.4

  3star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  173.8

  3star

  No current season stats available

  D

  15.0

  4star

  K

  9.0

  4star

  HB

  6.0

  4star

  M

  3.2

  4star

  T

  2.8

  5star

  MG

  229.8

  4star

• Pick 63 Patrick Kerr

Rookies: Kim LeBois, Alex Silvagni

Alex Silvagni

Age

38

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

172.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.8

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

4.0

5star

, Andrew Galluci, Ciaran Sheehan

Ciaran Sheehan

Age

35

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

1.3

3star

MG

130.0

2star

No current season stats available

D

12.0

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.4

4star

MG

153.0

3star

We also bid on Setterfield at pick 6, then traded for him a year later.

6 years on and only TWO players out of 14 are still on the list. One is Marchbank (who must have photos of someone), the other is Fisher. Flip even 2 of the other choices and that would have a huge impact on the current team as those players enter their primes. Horror effort by SOS and the club (after striking gold the year before with Weitering/Curnow/McKay/Silvagni/Cuningham/Plowman and even guys like Wright/Kerridge providing value)

 

[CatToTheFuture]

How well did Carlton do at this draft - absolute all-timer!

Traded in:

• Caleb Marchbank (perpetually injured, including 4 games in the last 4 years, and frankly not very good when fit)
• Billie Smedts (16 games, delisted after 1 season)
• Jarrod Pickett (17 games, delisted after 2 seasons)
• Rhys Palmer (1 season, delisted)
• pick 48

Traded out:
- Zac Touhy (140 games and a Premiership for Geelong, and counting)
Note: we initially traded Touhy and 63 for pick 17 and Smedts. Then traded 17 for Marchbank, Pickett and a future second. Then traded the future second for 48, with some shifting of picks in the 60s around it all

Draft:

• Pick 6 Sam Petrevski Seton
• Pick 27 Zac Fisher
• Pick 47 Harrison Macreadie
• Pick 59 Cameron Polson
• Pick 61 Tom Williamson
• Pick 63 Patrick Kerr

Rookies: Kim LeBois, Alex Silvagni, Andrew Galluci, Ciaran Sheehan
We also bid on Setterfield at pick 6, then traded for him a year later.

6 years on and only TWO players out of 14 are still on the list. One is Marchbank (who must have photos of someone), the other is Fisher. Flip even 2 of the other choices and that would have a huge impact on the current team as those players enter their primes. Horror effort by SOS and the club (after striking gold the year before with Weitering/Curnow/McKay/Silvagni/Cuningham/Plowman and even guys like Wright/Kerridge providing value)

Honestly though Fisher is a jet. Vastly under rated by oppo fans

 

[Wild Bill]

I have a number 1 if that counts but I'm sure I'll get shot down

I have him 1. Will be hard to over take by the time these players have finished.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I have him 1. Will be hard to over take by the time these players have finished.

Will be but there's one who is maybe striking distance and has a couple more years up his sleeve.

We'll see if the team around that player supports his standing by that point

 

[citizen-erased]

You're thinking Tom Stewart, and you're 100% correct.

Flags and AAs are gonna take some beating.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

It's actually been a superb draft that's extremely hard to rank. There are so many decent to good players, it feels like every club made out like bandits.

IMO the top dozen are:

1) H. McCluggage (#3)
2) S. Bolton (#29)
3) T. Stewart (#40)
4) S. Darcy (#38)
5) T. Taranto (#2)
6) J. Simpkin (#12)
7) J. Ridley (#22)
8) R. Marshall (Rookie #10)
9) T. English (#19)
10) M. Lewis (#76)
11) N. Larkey (#73)
12) L. Ryan (#66)

Then there are the rest, which are impossible to rank properly:

W. Brodie (#9)
I. Cumming (#20)
A. McGrath (#1)
J. Scrimshaw (#7)
H. Perryman (#14)
P. Lipinski (#28)
O. Florent (#11)
W. Drew (#33)
Z. Fisher (#27)
B. Parfitt (#26)
J. Daicos (#57)
SPP (#18)
W. Hayward (#21)
J. Berry (#17)
T. Marshall (#16)
G. Logue (#8)
J. Bowes (#10)
B. Cox (#41)
A. Witherden (#21)
J. Battle (#39)
B. Long (#25)
D. Cameron (#48)
W. Rioli (#52)
B. Ainsworth (#4)
L. Young (#49)
J. Graham (#53)
H. Morrison (#74)
E. Ratugolea (#43)

S. Draper (Rookie #1)
P. Ladhams (Rookie #9)
C. Zuurhar (Rookie #11)
O. McInerney (Rookie #37)
J. Henry (Rookie #16)
Zuthrie (Rookie #33)
R. Fox (Rookie #34)

 

[citizen-erased]

It's actually been a superb draft that's extremely hard to rank. There are so many decent to good players, it feels like every club made out like bandits.

IMO the top dozen are:

1) H. McCluggage (#3)
2) S. Bolton (#29)
3) T. Stewart (#40)
4) S. Darcy (#38)
5) T. Taranto (#2)
6) J. Simpkin (#12)
7) J. Ridley (#22)
8) R. Marshall (Rookie #10)
9) T. English (#19)
10) M. Lewis (#76)
11) N. Larkey (#73)
12) L. Ryan (#66)

Then there are the rest, which are impossible to rank properly:

W. Brodie (#9)
I. Cumming (#20)
A. McGrath (#1)
J. Scrimshaw (#7)
H. Perryman (#14)
P. Lipinski (#28)
O. Florent (#11)
W. Drew (#33)
Z. Fisher (#27)
B. Parfitt (#26)
J. Daicos (#57)
SPP (#18)
W. Hayward (#21)
J. Berry (#17)
T. Marshall (#16)
G. Logue (#8)
J. Bowes (#10)
B. Cox (#41)
A. Witherden (#21)
J. Battle (#39)
B. Long (#25)
D. Cameron (#48)
W. Rioli (#52)
B. Ainsworth (#4)
L. Young (#49)
J. Graham (#53)
H. Morrison (#74)
E. Ratugolea (#43)

S. Draper (Rookie #1)
P. Ladhams (Rookie #9)
C. Zuurhar (Rookie #11)
O. McInerney (Rookie #37)

Josh daicos is underrated. Id have him 10th in that top 10. Was close to AA last year

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Josh daicos is underrated. Id have him 10th in that top 10. Was close to AA last year

Definitely a quality player, I should be clear that the "rest of" list isn't in any particular order.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

By my count there are 44 decent to great AFL quality players to come out of that draft - surely that's the biggest return out of a draft to date?

 

[citizen-erased]

Definitely a quality player, I should be clear that the "rest of" list isn't in any particular order.

Id rate him ahead of mitchell, larkey and ryan.
I know nick gets the plaudits for finding the ball, but josh has a lot more power to steam through traffic. He was awesome last night

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Id rate him ahead of mitchell, larkey and ryan.
I know nick gets the plaudits for finding the ball, but josh has a lot more power to steam through traffic. He was awesome last night

He was superb last night. He's a class kick of the ball too.

But KPF over wingmen for mine. The ratings are a bit of a projection too as Lewis and Larkey will be top 10 KPF's by the seasons end (fitness permitting).

 

[RedmanWasHere]

It's actually been a superb draft that's extremely hard to rank. There are so many decent to good players, it feels like every club made out like bandits.

IMO the top dozen are:

1) H. McCluggage (#3)
2) S. Bolton (#29)
3) T. Stewart (#40)
4) S. Darcy (#38)
5) T. Taranto (#2)
6) J. Simpkin (#12)
7) J. Ridley (#22)
8) R. Marshall (Rookie #10)
9) T. English (#19)
10) M. Lewis (#76)
11) N. Larkey (#73)
12) L. Ryan (#66)

Then there are the rest, which are impossible to rank properly:

W. Brodie (#9)
I. Cumming (#20)
A. McGrath (#1)
J. Scrimshaw (#7)
H. Perryman (#14)
P. Lipinski (#28)
O. Florent (#11)
W. Drew (#33)
Z. Fisher (#27)
B. Parfitt (#26)
J. Daicos (#57)
SPP (#18)
W. Hayward (#21)
J. Berry (#17)
T. Marshall (#16)
G. Logue (#8)
J. Bowes (#10)
B. Cox (#41)
A. Witherden (#21)
J. Battle (#39)
B. Long (#25)
D. Cameron (#48)
W. Rioli (#52)
B. Ainsworth (#4)
L. Young (#49)
J. Graham (#53)
H. Morrison (#74)
E. Ratugolea (#43)

S. Draper (Rookie #1)
P. Ladhams (Rookie #9)
C. Zuurhar (Rookie #11)
O. McInerney (Rookie #37)

Plus J. Waterman and J. Rotham.

Z. Guthrie and J. Henry 2 more.

 

[citizen-erased]

He was superb last night. He's a class kick of the ball too.

But KPF over wingmen for mine. The ratings are a bit of a projection too as Lewis and Larkey will be top 10 KPF's by the seasons end (fitness permitting).

Fair.
I think ive got a bit of josh fanboy bias.